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QuoteShavoy It makes me wonder how otherwise intelligent people would accept at face value their leader's seemingly awesome accomplishments. Shavoy, I'm totally with you on this, completely at a loss to see how any of the leaders or members in SGI can be taken in by this rubbish. Researching these awards was the thing that really brought it home to me that Ikeda was a hypocrite, a fa
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Happy New Year one and all! Shavoy, no there is no special committee, PI paid for the award from an obscure and unethical publishing house in India. I'll paste below some my original rant about World Poet Laureate that I posted on 7th September this year. Tsukimoto and others had some interesting things to say about it back then. Quote: ".....here is some research I did on the t
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He is (or his disciples are) still allowing himself to be called World Poet Laureate - check out the banner on the podium in the photo. Walt Whitman Birthplace award If I was a member of Walt Whitman's family I'd be livid about this. Actually, I'm pretty cross anyway at the people who didn't do their research before presenting a cult figurehead with an award - however o
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For those of you with strong stomachs. My district leader still sends me links to our UK SGI e-bulletin every fortnight. I clicked on it and wish I hadn't. But maybe you might enjoy trying to find if there is anything about Nichiren Buddhism in the bulletin. Here's the link. It seems to be all about 'Sensei' (surprise) including this wonderful quote "“Youth of
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Hi Jeenia, Don't be too disheartened if your friend isn't interested in reading about all the culty aspects of SGI. Those who are really engaged in it have quite a distorted view of the organisation. As Anticult reminds us, SGI are masters at mind control and public relations. I know this because I can remember how I perceived things when people suggested I was in a cult (before I
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"Then moving of $40-50 million dollars into the UK, would be a way for SGI to make even more money. They buy Ikeda's bachelor pad and other property and investments, and they can always resell those properties, with no capital gains or other taxes." - Anticult That makes a lot of sense. SGI-UK is a registered charity, so therefore pays no taxes (I guess), so it would be a way
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QuoteThe AnticultDon't forget, in every western country, even the US, SGI tells its members that the SGI members from Japan are supporting them, as they don't donate enough money. You must realize these are lies from SGI. SGI has almost no expenses. They don't pay almost anyone, everyone works for free.. Hi Anticult, I absolutely agree with you about this in reference to
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QuoteMiss66Ratty Boy< at what level leadership did he say these scum bags start to get paid? This is infuriating. I remember when a leader came up to me at a meeting ,smiled and handed me a donation envelop. Going back in time I should have punched her in the face. This all makes me want to call them out,but I shall compose myself! Skanky corrupt SGI! Hi miss 66 and welcome! I don&#
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Doubtful, slimy is the word for it. I experience a similar disgust for my long membership of SGI when I hear about this stuff. When I saw the posts about this latest statue, I thought 'how can the existing members not see the vulgar (and undeserved) idolatry that is just the same sort of thing that petty political dictators demand' - to paraphrase Anticult. But then I remember tha
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QuoteRattyboy"How many times did we have to hear some guest leader at a local meeting tell us how they started with the group and how their friends and family thought they had "joined a cult". It sounds like a risky thing for them to say, but it is a neurolinguistic technique that allows the listener to relate to the experience and the discomfort about the possible cult question th
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Doubtful, I'm right there with you. I cannot believe how blind I was to the whole Ikeda personality cult thing, although I suppose that is how cults survive, by successfully deceiving and manipulating their members. I like Nichijew's comment about conmen and marks. I feel such a fool, I was definitely a mark. But then again I tried to shakubuku (with the best of intentions), so I
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Oh Oh Oh. I was looking at the list of Literary Awards you copied for us Tsukimoto and saw the 2. Honorable Friend of the Bodleian Library for Life, Bodleian Library, University of Oxford UK 1989 I had to go and investigate this as I studied in the Bodleian Library when I was at Oxford and wondered how on earth Ikeda could be honoured by such an unimpeachable organisation. His honours ar
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Thank you so much Tsukimoto for following this up. As always you managed to bring clarity to my rather muddled post. I really look forward to your summaries and thoughtful and measured contributions! Wow, P.I has a lot of literary awards to add to his hundreds of honorary doctorates. This really is a mockery, as he truly can't write in the literary sense. I did want to point out how
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Hi Tsukimoto, You might want to take a look at the scam that Shroeder perpetrated on WPSI - it is quite amusing, involving WPSI sending anthologies of nonsense German poetry to Universities all over the United States. Like you I'm not surprised that SGI is involved with some sleazy publication company, set-up to get money from naive aspiring authors. What is truly horrible, though
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For those of you who got through the rant above and are interested here is some research I did on the title "World Poet Laureate": I googled 'World Poet Laureate' and found that 'Ikeda was honoured with the award of World Poet Laureate by the World Poetry Society Intercontinental in the year 1995'. So I googled World Poetry Society Intercontinental. It was d
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Hi folks, I haven't posted for a while. I'm the one who brought up the query as to whether SGI used its videos to send subliminal messages to the members. I still think this is very possible, but it will be difficult to find the truth unless someone involved with the making or editing of the videos comes clean. I'm still in the process of quietly extracting myself from the
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Quotedoubtful SGI is an NGO. I'd be wary about being impressed by SGI's UN NGO status. The Unification Church ("the moonies") is also an NGO according to Rick Ross's post on this site http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=72 and scroll down: "Archive for Moonies / Unification Church 05.13.04 NPR: News or “cult” infomercial? Posted in Moonies / Unification Church,
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QuoteRothausQuotespamsterDaisaku Ikeda has written some of the best interpretations of Nichirens writings, that are available Have you ever read any other interpretations? And how do we know Ikea wrote them? Spamster, if you look back on this thread you will read about how SGI closed down Lisa Jones's website. Lisa Jones is an ex-member of SGI-USA staff who explained about the many gho
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Quotetsukimoto Study and cultural activities? Espionage as a cultural activity? Mutual respect and meaningful dialogue? What does that really mean? I will treat you with respect if you agree with me? I've always found SGI's use of language quite weird - even when I was a good little leader. Now I know why; it is pure doublethink.
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Quotedoubtful@spamster who wrote, " Daisaku Ikeda has written some of the best interpretations of Nichirens writings, that are available - they are well worth reading to get a modern, 'daily life' understanding of Buddhism. however, simply by calling him 'sensei' and saying you can 'feel his heart' repeatedly, you will not change your life in any way whatsoever.
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QuoteNichijew Too bad Assange and Wikileaks isn't on the case. A fly on the wall of the SGI executive committee meeting would be a real eye opener, I bet..... Actually I came across a really old memo "The Kitano Memo" about an SGI-European Summit with Gen. Sec. Kitano in 1997 which was a bit like being a fly on the wall. You read about how at this meeting all the leaders mach
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QuoteNichijew[ Too bad Assange and Wikileaks isn't on the case. A fly on the wall of the SGI executive committee meeting would be a real eye opener, I bet. I once wrote a little satire on one of their meetings. Some silly people actually believed it was the minutes of one of their meetings: Minutes of the SGI Top Salaried Senior Leader's New Years Board Meeting Board Members, s
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QuoteNichijewQuotesimplify I was referring to more sinister ''hidden from view" subliminal messages that might be in the videos (and maybe explain their power), rather than the fairly overt audibly repeated mind-numbing stuff, which is super gack-y as it is. That would make perfect sense. That may be why the videos are not publically displayed on the internet and why they are so
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QuoteShavoy And what's also truly gack-y is the fact that this videos are required showing, every month, no deviation. If members try to "deviate" from the Plan with fresh ideas of their own, well, that goes over like a lead balloon. Not havin' it. Too scary. I see the subliminal point, Simplify. It's done for the sole veneration of P.I. That's it. Repeated
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QuoteScoobyDoobyQuoterattyboyQuoteScoobyDoobyQuotetsukimoto (back when it was NSA) do the same thing with the Liberty Bell? Back in the 70's, youth division members, dressed in clothing of the 1700's, offered to bring a replica of the Liberty Bell into schools? Again, they didn't really say clearly that they were part of SGI -- and most schools didn't ask. Go
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QuoteNichijew We see not one word about SGI and Ikeda while beseeching America to let I Choose into its High Schools. See the vacuous eyes of the I Choose cast and crew. The entire organization I Choose is an SGI covert mind control division of the Soka Gakkai as is the International Committee of Artists For Peace. They are no different than American journalists and entertainers who work for
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QuoteStoicIts possible that SGI have been playing a 'long game' in the UK, establishing a structural base for future expansion. Its not very well known and we don't have the historical ties to Japan that the US has--we have only a tiny, transient Japanese presence here, mostly business people, students and diplomats, very few immigrants. Politically the UK culture is very diffe
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Another thing that has been worrying me lately is those awful 'Sensei's videos'. They are truly terrible, but it is not just the content that is disturbing. I'm wondering if they are being used to send subliminal messages to the viewers. I know this sounds a bit far fetched, but actually nowadays it is really easy to do. I've done it myself (to myself) on my own
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It is not so much the amounts they get, one would expect fairly substantial salaries in these jobs. The expenses are all in the accounts that are publicly viewable on the link I gave. What I don't get is why after many years of cost of living pay rises there was a sudden hike to nearly double the figure in a single year. What caused that? The vice-gen director, Kazuo has been in th
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! Perfect Simplify. You brought tears to my eyes. Mark Thanks for your kind words Mark/Nichijew. The trouble with enabling people to see that SGI is a cult if you live in the UK is that a lot of the red flags have been toned-down here. Or at least that is my experience in the districts I have practiced with. Up until the Mentor/Disciple personality cult stuff started to be shoved
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