Its easy for me to say also. Clearly, whoever Sisi might be, her involvement with Denise has had a lingering effect on her. I think she should take that effect elsewhere, preferably to a professional, its doing nobody any good right now. However, I am happy to make clear that I am not and have never been, Denise. If anyone wants to argue the point, try this for mood music:
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Yeah, what is that called when you start seeing the bogieman/woman around every corner and under every stone?
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I had one exchange with bigpigweed, my response was short and to the point. Bigpigweed, Sisi in her many guises and the unholy alliance of Glenn/Al may all be one and the same. It bothers me not a bit. Nor am I interested in trying to sort out that MPD tangle. They are all various degrees of toxic.
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According to 'Sisi' : I wrote a long letter of piece to stoic and didn't even get a piss off. I was pretty sure then because she is the only redneck too ignorance to even reply in one sentence. You might well have written it, Sisi, but you didn't post it because I have neither received correspondence from you nor ever corresponded with you. Incidentally, I asked you, pub
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I seem to remember explaining to Blackhat in pm how I became entrenched in this trenchtown of a thread. She has it about right, although I seem to remember that my first post was this one which gives away my personal interests, which have not changed: My primary reason for coming to this site was to read the mammoth Byron Katie thread that had tweaked my interest in another capacity. I
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Ephesians 4:14-15 New International Version (NIV) 14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. H
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Here's the virtually unknown inspirational example who wrote 'Steppin Razor' and taught all the Wailers to sing: Talking and singing:
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The Judge is currently pondering the arguments for a new trial: Meanwhile, here is a good, sane article on the 'Dangerous Trends in Personal Development.' The blogger has a course to sell but no-one needs to buy it in order to benefit from reading the article.
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'it didn’t last long and ended badly, something about interpersonal conflicts.' 'once one group of followers or given group of people gets wise to you, you simply move on and find a new group to feed from, a new host to leech off of, so to speak. And she said you were like that even as a kid.' What a gem!
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I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't be angry, just that the Wanker trades in extremes of emotion. Any expression of extreme emotion is a red flag and potential hook for him. He deceives with words but manipulates emotion in others with the deception. Here's something cool and relaxed:
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That will please the Wanker, to know that he winds you up. It is his mission in life, to do that to people. It is what he has always done to his members, and how he manages to keep ahold of them.
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The Selector did a great 'Steppin' Razor' cover, sadly not on youtube, so here's another selection from The Selector: (the trainee firefighters that follow are good too) The graduates must be feeling the squeeze right now, having to reconcile the ingrained paranoid teachings of the Apostle with the harsh realities of fending for themselves in a world they see as dedi
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Its interesting that the Apostle chooses now to let us in on what happened in November 2010. I think that both Malcolm and Zeuszor have it right, the graduates have been cut adrift-- infantilised, kidney-less, unskilled except for street begging, yet still with deep loyalties to the Apostle-- to sink or swim on their own. Thats a fine way to introduce 'arrested adolescents' to the w
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you know what happened to joan d' arc Before she got made a saint she was burnt at the stake as a witch. That was a threat to make you be silent and to stop disagreeing. We have not moved on much since poor old Joan got hers for speaking her mind, at least on the forum where that was said. There was also, famously, a female pope in medieval times, until she was discovered. To
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double post.
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I think Ole sets himself up an an idol for the power and adulation it brings to him. With that power and adulation comes wealth, acclaim, recognition, the pick of the women and the envy of the men. Men get ensnared too. Ole's prediliction regarding preying on his female students as sexual partners has been mentioned throughout the thread. Power, it is said, is the greatest aphrodisiac of
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You could always go to the most basic available source and read what is recorded of the buddha's words for yourself. You could then try to figure out what was meant and decide if it is relevant to you. I'm not much of a religious scholar but I do remember him being recorded as saying: to not accept anything he said as gospel, but to try it out yourself to see if it made sense to you.
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You don't have to listen to these people who tell you how to think and feel. They have their own agenda to pursue and nothing is easier than telling others what is the right thing to do in a situation they have not experienced. You are unlikely to convince, through argument, people who believe that the world will magically transform itself back into the Garden of Eden before the Fall if o
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Its one of the Wanker's first moves, in the breaking of the parental/child emotional bond, to have his members refer to their parents by their first names. The parent then becomes just another person to be exploited, no longer that familial figure. In the case of his own kids, it allows him then to be the almighty Apostle without the kids having any special father/child consideration, or
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Shame on you, Alf. Alf has always come across, in the video footage I have seen of him, as mild-mannered and peaceable. I wondered what he doing associating with the Apostle and this blatant equation of God's truth with the Apostles manipulative control freakery just about sums it up.
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That's quite a polished PR statement from an organisation that claims to not have a PR department or personnel. Distancing the organisation from the questionable person but no real questions addressed. Polished.
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Robert Lifton, who knew a bit about cult dynamics and brainwashing, on the 'American Apocalypse'----about the war on terror but applicable here also, I think, with regard to the inevitable accompanying paranoia. Well worth a read for some sanity: 'Warmaking can quickly become associated with "war fever," the mobilization of public excitement to the point of a col
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Some other therapy terms that I stay well away from, a) because I have never been able to figure out what exactly is meant by them and b) because I am, even after many decades, in no mood to try to apply these terms to the behaviour I hate with a vengeance: Forgiveness Closure Healing The personal equanimity I have found does not include any of those concepts, and doesn't seem to
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I had'nt realised that sWord had such a good grasp on the funding and dynamics of the Wanker and his crew, very illuminating. Still, as Ash was totally beguiled, I guess they did they did the only sensible thing and researched the devious Apostle and his devious business model themselves. He's quite right about it taking 10 or more years to an ex to start openly talking. It takes at
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Lovely song from Yusuf Islam, Mal. 'Traditional song, a beautiful prayer for anyone that has some faith.' 'He also, whether he meant to or not, has also spread untruths about certain elements of his parents' past.' I have drawn a complete veil over my parents and thus my own past, and refuse to discuss it with anybody at all. My reasoning is that discussi
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It all gets a bit daft, these cloak and dagger games. With so many ID's to juggle how does the person know who they are themselves?
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Has some nasty association that Phrenology. From the same site: 'Furthermore, fascist ideologies like Nazism have misused some elements of craniometry in the framework of their infamous racist doctrines. These theories, albeit completely distinct from scientific Phrenology, have given a very bad name to the science.' I don't want someone deciding my character or fate by v
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six foot under, would personally suit me Yes, I could dance a jig that day too. I thought Amused was Kevin for a while but then decided not, for some reason. I really don't care who it is, TBH. Your inbox is full, Malcolm.
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Tracking him down to a particular location will solve nothing. He is unlikely to ever face legal proceedings in a courtroom unless one of the ex's or 'graduates' can bring a civil suit against him. And anyone personally harassing him in his particular location is likely to be subject to charges of stalking etc. themselves. What we can do is keep up his profile as a sadistic e
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I had a read up on the Straight Inc etc, the whole Child Gulag story. One thing that is clear is that these outfits did not stop when they were exposed as simple torture camps run by unqualified sadistic entrepreneurs. Some were closed one day only to open under a new name in the same premises the next. And clones were constantly springing up as ex-'staffers' saw the economic opport
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