ForgottenIA , why are you not just using your real name? Many people here have good reason to keep themselves Anonymous But why you?
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That was a weird day at Kling. The first of many weddings! Hey! Just like Rick!and now let’s travel through all the church’s and cash in! Gifts, money , praise! All on the backs of “ The little people “ Such a bunch of BS! Well what comes around goes around. Ricks life is in ruins The lamp has been blown out and Gary is NEXT! Blessings to you all!
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G&M started their affair during the time JRS was in his bedroom dying. Everything was twisted from the very beginning of their relationship. Plans were being made on how to deal with johns family and ministries who were looking into what the next steps were going to be for the churches. Complete control and pulling in the money was the first order of business no matter what the cost. That wen
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The ongoing hindsight in all of this is so eye opening and painful in so many ways. It brings so many different emotions, some satisfying in seeing things come to an end and some sad over the pain of it all. I was close to so much of it as so many people have been. Being a kid growing up with John and with him when he died and everything that followed that to all that is happening now is an ove
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Interesting. JRS held onto all the coins from all the offerings for many years so I wouldn’t be surprised if a Sh*t load ended up in Shiloh. I know they must have come and cleaned out many of the valuable items like Van Dyke paintings, guns and so forth way before all This started....
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I was standing outside with JRS one late night at Shiloh and he was looking at the water tower and he said , one day lightning is going to hit that thing and this whole damn place is going to burn down. Well, maybe it’s wasn’t lightning but it’s sure burning down. I truly believe that he was regretful of his openness to Marylyn and all the craziness that followed. I believe he knew it was wrong a
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It’s interesting looking back at a place like Shiloh where so much time was spent or even the Blix house or Johns house and remember all the things that went on. I completely understand the mixed feelings. So much of our lives were spent in these places. I have a deep sadness over so many things. Mostly from being let down from all the Hope’s and dreams. People who have passed or gone away. It’s
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Even if that’s true and I don’t think it is. What would that have anything to do with decades of abuse and overwhelming control over countless people and their families? Truth is , I was molested when I was seven but I didn’t go on spree of abuse and manipulation for 35 years. Nobody had it as good as Rick did from a very early age. He was given the keys to the kingdom just out of high school an
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Oh yes he was quiet dead I can tell you that. But I would think certain people would wonder. I mean so many last saw him in services and didn’t really know how sick he was. Plus everyone including myself were of the thinking that he couldn’t have died and if he did he would be right back. The hard thing about it all thinking back is he suffered so much in that bedroom. He should have been in the
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I think we all had a crazy experience in one way or another. Loving and supporting each other now no matter how you were involved is a beautiful thing.
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I remember being at Kling ( Johns house ) in late 1982. His illness was really beginning to show and he knew it. Around January or early February he was really becoming sick and was soon in bed. We begin taking care of him from that point. It was a very long six months or so until June forth when he passed. It was a Saturday morning early. They came and took him away for a little bit then brought
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No the 30k was not for the car. It was just a check from someone with money in Iowa ( I won’t say who ) that said she can do whatever she wants with it.
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Seeing Donna in the middle yard with the baby while G&M were beginning their relationship ( while JRS was in bed dying) was heartbreaking. I remember one time while in Shiloh G&M putting Donna down and thinking something was really really wrong with all this. Also them showing me a check for 30k that someone had just given them. I was just thinking wow! I’m here at my own expense ( in Sh
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Rob may put a little light on Rick’s actions but most of Rick’s damage was done the years after Rob left. I knew Rob too and know it was really hard for him. I’m not sure who you’re referring to in your response but I can assure you it wasn’t me covering For Rick. But I know who did...
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It’s weird how that happens. A phone number, address, name , sets off a whole bunch of memories and thoughts. I have Blix, TLW , Shiloh , CLW G & M , JRS Phone numbers plus all kinds of stuff in the back of my brain. But that’s okay, I also have the song from Gilligans Island in there too along with a whole bunch of other stupid stuff!
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i remember being over at G & M’ s once and they were talking casual about how in the future, unless you you had at least three or four million in the bank you’d be in real trouble. Your life would be really horrible and you wouldn’t be able to make it. I remember leaving the house that night feeling so defeated and down knowing I would never have that kind of money and wouldn’t be able to cov
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Rick was about Rick and only about Rick. The most manipulative conniving person I’ve ever known. Just like his Mom and sister. He is also a complete pussy as a man. That’s not me being bitter or mad, it’s just the truth.
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I wouldn’t be using another name on this form right now but there are some things going on in my life right now that make it difficult for me to have all this out in the open. So much more to say! I’m sure there are so many people on this form that I know and dearly love. Amen! Would you like to stand?
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I know a lot of this really doesn’t mean that much it’s just a point of interest. Looking back the stuff that went on in my life and way over 40 years involved in a very close way with Blix, TLW , the valley church, Shiloh, Hawaii and more only breaks my heart. So many people I have loved and my own family being treated so poorly. I’m surprised I’m still alive after all of it. It’s amazing to me
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It was an interesting time. Rick couldn’t be in the room taking care of JRS because it was “ too hard for him” 100% complete BS. In fact he spent the whole time up at the studio having his affair with Shannon. That’s how much he really cared. Yet the fact JRS died left him with a whole bunch of lies he could tell young girls about fake words John gave him and ways to solicit Sympathy getting th
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It’s really a trip to think of Shiloh being leveled. I was there starting in 1976 making $80 a Month. I was also there though out the years as part of the 4th of July shows. I remember JRS saying to me one night when we were alone outside his apartment that one day this will all be destroyed. I was close to him and was always taken back by things he said to me. Like when he was dying at home in
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ABC Los Angeles covered the story at the 7pm broadcast this evening.
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So All of this is very interesting. So much history, so much hurt. I’m new to this but have been reading it for years. I was VERY involved in the back side of all this with JRS , G&M , Rick and everything that was going on at Blix, CLW, TLW and Shiloh. I just want to say I have so much love for so many and know a great deal of healing is still needed for so many including myself. I wasn’t go
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