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12 years ago
bobze39
Quotebobze39QuoteShavoy @bobze39, your experience is triumphant, indeed! So did the defamation hinge on the fact that your advisor was gay solely, were there other things they tried to dig up in vain to get to you? All those emails alone--yikes. So ridiculous. Shavoy, I'd like to share with you a bit what I learned from Defamation 101 class, which I took in USC and later in life (figur
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12 years ago
bobze39
At any rate, I'll continue with my story. At that time I had pretty limited information about SGI in Russia. But I knew that SGI influence in Russia is much much more limited, compare to their influence in US. So, I felt that in my position, being black-listed by SGI, I would be better off in Russia. While in Califonia I talked to some people in LA Friendship Center, and they told me that th
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteHitchBobze39 - For some reason, I thought you were an Asian-American (getting mixed up with a senior asian leaders' daughter). Danny's "story" doesn't sound like such a big deal to me. If he wants to believe it was some sort of miraculous benefit, more power to him. I think that's just stupid confirmation bias nonsense for the deluded. (Being a man of "
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12 years ago
bobze39
Quotebobze39QuoteNichijewAs an aside, NEVER share intimate personal information when you are receiving guidance because sooner or later, everyone in your circle will know your business and some WILL use it against you. This happened to my wife and even though I was a "good ikedabot" at the time, I was livid when I found out. Mark, in the 21st century, when someone conducts vendetta ag
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteShavoyIncredible posts from Nichijew, Hitch, KR, bobze39, corboy, wakatta1. I will add another life situation where die-hard SGI-ers stumble: When a member commits suicide. There was a post back in this thread about a young gentleman who did just that, after his gohonzon accidently suffered damage. If I remember, they were came down hard on him for that, and the poor guy was overwhel
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteNichijewAs an aside, NEVER share intimate personal information when you are receiving guidance because sooner or later, everyone in your circle will know your business and some WILL use it against you. This happened to my wife and even though I was a "good ikedabot" at the time, I was livid when I found out. Mark, in the 21st century, when someone conducts vendetta against you, t
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hitch, don't forget number 13: SGI is a cult that keeps a large ENEMY LIST, which includes Nichiren Shoshu and priests; journalists and politicians in Japan, who speak up against it (like Akiyo Asaki); also in this thread people talked about victims in America, like Lisa Jones and Byrd (for example first Tsukimoto's post on page 207); and just some random losers like me, who wound up o
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hitch, in some ways it's true, people are slaving for SGI. By the way, now I understand why leaders kept telling me, that I am not supposed to relax while chanting. "If you want to relax, go take a massage". They even recommended me to chant sitting on my feet, pretty uncomfortable position. That always puzzled me, because chanting has a great potential to relax mind. But that�
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteNichijewI was doing some "teeth of the castle" or Sokahan activity in Trets, the brainwash center in France. It was like two in the morning. Some big muckety muck pulls me aside and escorts me outside to a wooded area. It was absolutely dark. In between a grove of trees, about fifty yards from the building, he leads me to brass plaque on a concrete base on which is etched a dedic
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hello, everybody, very interesting posts, but I am going to continue with my story, as I feel that my mission here is to share my experiences of being in the status of SGI enemy. I really symphasize now with Nichiren Shoshu priests and other SGI victims in Japan, because I know from my own experience what they are going through and how they feel. After my "triumph" graduation from U
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteShavoy @bobze39, your experience is triumphant, indeed! So did the defamation hinge on the fact that your advisor was gay solely, were there other things they tried to dig up in vain to get to you? All those emails alone--yikes. So ridiculous. Shavoy, I'd like to share with you a bit what I learned from Defamation 101 class, which I took in USC and later in life (figuratively spea
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12 years ago
bobze39
Well, I've just realized, that I have something in common with our dear leader sensei Mr. Ikeda. Both of us have Doctorate degrees, but while my degree is real, Doctor of Musical Arts, University of Southern California, his degrees were bought with members money and phony. But I don't want to be ungrateful, because in some way SGI helped me to get my Doctorate. How is that, you would
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hi, Rattyboy, well, I have to admit, I didn't notice any official racism in SGI, SGI equally uses and abuses all members regardless of race, age and religious beliefs. They don't dicriminate. Have to give it to them, they do achieve some great equality, they screw everybody. As soon as you can give your money and time to SGI, and shakubuku some fresh meat, they don't care what race
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteNichijew They are no different than the scientologists who give some of their former members, especially their outspoken members hell, wherever they find themselves. Quotesimplify I heard that the Scientologists keep a special office for Ron L Hubbard in all their centres, even though he is dead. Is this 'shrine' room common in cults? Is it for mind control purposes (eg reinfo
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hitch, you are absolutely right, I totally brought it all on myself by screwing around, (I am not the only one, who brought bad stuff on himself by screwing around, I mean, look at Clinton, there is a new PBS documentary about him) in fact, because of this realization, for a while, I didn't even feel angry at SGI, I almost felt, that they were punishing me fairly. But the time passed, and ju
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12 years ago
bobze39
Nichijew, you are absolutely right, my experience does sound more like Japanese experience. One of the reasons could be that in Los Angeles (where it all happened) the concentration of SGI members per square meter is the highest in US, and probably highest in the world outside of Japan (except maybe South Korea). And because I used to live in Korea Town, close to downtown LA, and meetings were in
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12 years ago
bobze39
Dear Nichijew, I received your private message, I replied with a thank you note, but it said that your mailbox was full, so I decided to write to you right here. Thank you for believing in my story (after all it's just another human story, all human stories have some drama, some emotions, some interesting twists and so on, I am sure your own story is just as interesting). Also thank you for
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12 years ago
bobze39
Hello, Holly_Golightly, thank you for sharing your story. Isn't it interesting, how much emphasis SGI puts on shakubuku? People lose ability to communicate normally with other people, they don't see a real person, all what they see is a potential "client" for shakubuku. In fact, shakubuku is not just an important part of SGI practice, but the very survival of the organization
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteMitchellHello everybody, I'm so glad I found this forum. I read this thread for hours yesterday and it was quite eye opening. I am married to a SGI member who was born in Japan and for the past 15 years or so has lived in the US. We have been married for a little over 2 years and it has been really good for the most part. I knew getting into this relationship that she was a membe
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12 years ago
bobze39
Here is another cry for help from some guy in Matsudo, Japan. "Soka Gakkai is a mastermind of gang stalking... I have been working near the Airborne Brigade base in Narashino. The family of the soldier of Airborne Brigade was working at my office. The stalking was done in the office, and the office was driven out to me. (Read "I was driven out of office" - workplace mo
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuoteNichijew "'Sacrifice your own skin to slash the opponent's flesh. Surrender your own flesh to saw off the opponent's bone.' With their faithful implementation of this well-known Japanese fencing (kendo) strategy into actual practice during the war, the Japanese military is able to achieve her glorious, ever-victorious invincibility in the Sino-Japan conflict and
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12 years ago
bobze39
Is this what it means to "protect the SGI and Mentor at all costs"? Dear Shavoy, I am going to answer you by quoting Tsukimoto's post on page 27 of this forum: "I have read on another online forum that I go to, that, these days, SGI is talking less about the evils of Nikken/Nichiren Shoshu -- and more about "traitors" within SGI itself, which is part of the ra
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12 years ago
bobze39
The way SGI conducted (and continues to conduct) defamation campaign against me was very cynical. Here are just few examples. When I was a graduate student at USC School of Music, many of the teachers at the music department were gay. SGI told everybody that I was homophobic. At that time I lived in Korea Town area of Los Angeles, which was full of immigrants, Mexican and Korean, so SGI told ever
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12 years ago
bobze39
What do you think you said or did to bring about their enmity and your excommunication? What is it something as banal as refusing to accept Ikeda as your savio... err mentor? Well, I have to say, I am no hero. The reason I made the SGI Watch List is even more banal. I got involved with a woman, who had connections with the very high-ranked SGI officials. She was friends with Danny Nagashima (
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12 years ago
bobze39
Bobze, how did you find out that this was going on? They told people around me lies, and then they gagged them. But eventually some brave people told me what was going on.
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12 years ago
bobze39
Quotebobze39Quotetennpeach Her name was Kimi L., I remember meething her for the 1st time when I was 15 years old, I think she was a similar to my mother--so she might have been about 35~40 years old at that time. I returned from out-of-country in '86. Then the split happened--she contacted my mother around 1991 to let her know that SGI leaders were trying to dig up any kind of dirt to
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12 years ago
bobze39
QuotetsukimotoFILE IN CLERKS OFFICE COURT OF APPEALS STATE OF WASHINGTON, DIVISION III DATE: JUNE 9, 1994 IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON KEN B No. 13065-7-III Respondent, V. ) Division Three LARRY T ) Panel Four Appellant. ) KEN B ) No. 13066-5-III Respondent, V. EDDIE Y Appellant. FILED JUN - 9 1994 SCHULTHEIS, J.-- After
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12 years ago
bobze39
Sorry, the link to the Department of Justice Bureau of Statistics Special Report Stalking Victimization in the United States has changed:
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12 years ago
bobze39
Group stalking is something very real. A U.S. Department of Justice special report, January 2009, NCJ 224527, titled Stalking Victimization in the United States, which is available at this link (as of January 2009): ... reported the following statistics showing the occurrence of multiple stalking cases within the total of all U.S. recorded stalking cases in the 2005-2006 time range: * 11%
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12 years ago
bobze39
Quotetsukimoto Yes, this is quite different than the memo sent out to the public, that Simplify posted. The language of the whole Kitano memo is very militaristic. The SGI leadership regarded the SGI/Nichiren Shoshu split as a war, and they consider it justifiable, even good, to do the following: 1. Perform surveillance on people who have joined, or who have expressed interest in, Nic
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