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20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
That guy is one snakey little weasel. And for a Genius, he sure has crappey speling! Double your money back, eh? The oldest scam in the book. Coz
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
The recent story about Madonna making a movie about the "prison experiment" is extremely fascinating. Who knows, perhaps Madonna's Guru has encouraged her to make this film, as i would guess that this Guru knows all about that type of research and social dynamics. It sort of reminds me of the incredible hubris of certain cultic type leaders, who will tell their followers what th
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
If she was in pain, and now is feeling no pain, this is probably due to Self-suggestion. Hypnosis, and relaxation, self-suggestion, etc, are one of the best ways of dealing with chronic pain. Also, she could have had psychosomatic pain. She COULD also be experiencing "mania", or something of that nature. From my point of view, these "gurus" do not have any healing power, i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
The evidence so far has shown that basically every Pro-Landmark poster here, and even the posters who appear more ambiguous about it, have been shills* for Landmark. Sooner or later they will post with the wrong name, or slip up in another way. Don't let them "bait" you. It seems to me, the Landmark "supporters" who post here, (who claim to not be supporting Landma
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
The evidence so far has shown that basically every Pro-Landmark poster here, and even the posters who appear more ambiguous about it, have been shills* for Landmark. Sooner or later they will post with the wrong name, or slip up in another way. Don't let them "bait" you. They just find that amusing. Coz *shill One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gamb
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
Actually, upon reflection, that statement is designed to put people into a Trance state! Its a confusing idea, to imply that we are all hypnotized by society, and need to be "awakened" by Tony Robbins. Robbins actually has a long list of "Confusion Inducing Questions". You induce confusion into your victims, as then you can "lead them out of the confusion" and hea
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
You can always tell a Landmark plant, because they rave about Landmark alleged "benefits", yet they adhere to Landmarks strict policy of NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT LANDMARK IS ABOUT, as they are FORBIDDEN to discuss specifics by their Landmark Masters. Also, they ALWAYS end by recommending people go and subject themselves to a Landmark brainwashing session. Its very bizarre. Almost eve
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
Here is an article "THE TROUBLE WITH HYPNOSIS" from Psychology Today about hypnosis, and Eriksonian Hypnosis. It raises all the important issues. Robbins openly claims he does NOT do "hypnosis". He says, if anything, he "de-hypnotizes" people. This is a blatant lie, using semantic word games. He can say that, due to the trouble with what "hypnosis"
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
This is a recent article about Robbins, that is not too critical, so Robbins people are promoting it. It does show what his next direction is, and some of his professed beliefs. (it might ask you to log-in for free) Coz
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
Check out this uber-manipulation from a recent Robbins newsletter. This is designed to tap into your deepest emotions, and highest Values, deepest needs, idealism, and vulnerablilites. He puts out hundreds of these types of persuasions. Coz --------- LEVEL FOUR is the ultimate experience of love. It is a rare level to experience, but those who do are truly blessed. There are s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
Glen, you mentioned you went to UPW. I would love to hear your review of the program. It doesn't have to be a negative review, it could be a positive one. For instance, Robbins is the best public speaker i have ever seen. Also, his seminars are brilliantly constructed, again, the best i have seen. So i would be interested in getting your POV on UPW, no matter what your conclusions are
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
You probably want to repost this in the LGAT section, which covers Landmark. Coz
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
You prpbably want to repost this in the LGAT section, which cover Landmark. Coz
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
What a lame-ass BS sales pitch! 3 Grand down to ONLY $300! Keep it a SECRET!!! Puhleeeeeeaaaaseeeeeee..... This guy is just BAD. I wonder if some people are so naive and foolish as to fall for so bad a sales-pitch? I wonder. If so, i really feel sorry for them. You know, its sad thinking about all of the innocent folks out there, being lead by the nose to the slaughter by these two-bit
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
The way Ericksonian Hypnosis is used by these people is totally unethical, and would have Milton Erikson turning in his grave. It was created for Hypnotherapy, and is now being used to sell people crap, and manipulate them. Its a way of using language that communicates directly with the victims unconscious, and uses "embedded commands". People don't need to be in a classic "t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
He's such a genius, he can't even finish his website. And the photos from "his" condo. My guess it was "his" as a weekend rental, so he could put some glamorous photos on the website and appear like a big shot? Perhaps he is having an "intelligence-increasing technology" malfunction? Coz QuoteConcerned Oz Hi Hope & COZ, I've never
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
At the bottom of this page he mentions Landmark. He also tells us he is a Genius. Frankly, looks to me like a Narcissist, created by his parents telling him he was a special Mormon prophet as a child... He is selling a "story" and i guess trying to sell his "intelligence-increasing technology". Hmmmmm.... Coz -----------------------from his website----------- The
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
I don't want to get sued, thx. ;) Guthy-Renker buys the air-time for the infomercials. Guthy-Renker "made" Robbins, and turned him into a household name. (he has had lawsuits with them as well). Guthy, of Guthy-Renker described what Tony sells as GREED and VANITY. That sums it up. As far as 60 Minutes, Robbins has been "reported" to them. Who knows, maybe one
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
All this talk about Robbins is reactivating my Tony Trauma! ;) So i went, and painfully browsed though some of the posts at his site. Here is a thread, about this girl who LOVES watching his infomercials, over and over and over!! (many women have sexual dreams about Tony, and become obsessed with him. He actually engineers that in his infomercial!) These infomercials are LOADED with persuasi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
The conclusion of the "webmasters" (commissioned salesmen) at TonyRobbins.com was that i was a "troll". I WAS being deliberately manipulative "at times", using Robbins techniques in various ways. But as Tony says, there is nothing wrong with "manipulation". Manipulation is Influence, and as long as you are a good person, Influencing others, even Unconsciou
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
Its all cross-marketing. Robbins loves those types of magazines, as its a readdy audience of suckers. You don't see him doing interviews with Psychology Today, or someone who might kick his ass, and ask some tough questions. Robbins is now selling a bunch of "alternative health" stuff, so he can become a Billionaire. He has openly declared this. Its just about selling selling se
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
There were a few others on Robbins site. MookieGuy was one, although he believed Tony was doing good work, yet being aware of some of his techniques. There were about 5 main posters on the Robbins board, and all of their posts were deleted, and now all are censored, so that's why there are no posts there! If you want to research Robbins stuff, you can order any of his programs from multi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
I've done most of his courses, going back over 16 years, and fortunately got to attend most of them for free using comps. The only "prerequisite" for Robbins is money. He has endless courses, and coachings, and everything else. If you have a million dollars, he will coach you privately for one year, plus a % of your Income... UPW (Unleash the Power Within) is where the Robbins
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
I believe Robbins has raging NPD. This means he has a tremendous lack of Empathy, even though he uses the skills of the professional actor, and can cry, and appear all lovey-dovey. (the ladies swoon for him). Some of what Robbins does must be a bit of a joke between him, and those who understand what he is doing. I think his "fans" are sort of guinea pigs for him. He sort of experiment
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
If you watch his infomercial, you can see how he is programming women to FALL IN LOVE with him! Seriously, no hyperbole. I explained it in that other thread at the Robbins site. And he knows how to make strangers feel like Tony is your "best friend". Everything is great, until one night, you sign a $30,000-$65,000 contract, or a $250,000 franchise contract you cannot afford. Then
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
I was labelled a "troll" on the Robbins message board, by Robbins True Believers. (Tony Morons). For them to label me a troll, meant they did not have to deal with what i was saying, which was disturbing to them. So they could just blank me out, by calling me a troll. But in that case, i was NOT a troll, i was deprogramming myself. I suppose i could have done it in my own journal,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
People over there went CRAZY when I pointed what Robbins is doing. Robbins "fans" were the most vicious and reactive. Robbins HIDDEN 100% commissioned Salesmen on the site know exactly what Robbins does, but find it necessary to keep it quiet, so it doesn't kill a big sale. They changed the entire way the site is moderated after me and a few others were pointing things out. I thin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
an interesting Co$ link...
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
If it were me, i would print a one-page flyer, and have it put outside the door of the class, with info about Scientology. I would aim at starting a little class revolt! ;) Coz QuoteOriginally posted by Dervish I just thought of one thing you can try (I couldn't wait for my post to be approved and to edit that one :D ). Take your syllibus with that comment AND whatever evidence
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
20 years ago
Cosmophilospher
I had never seen this webpage that this "professor" is recommending. That website is a Scientology anti-psychiatric nightmareland. These people are out of their minds. Literally. Hubbard was severely mentally-ill and paranoid, and so he of course doesn't belief in mental illness! That website is one of the craziest things i have seen in a long time. Report that Prof,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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