Thanks for telling your story and speaking up. Regarding people not caring too much about the dark side of landmark and the side effects. I was on a swedish TV programme that exposed Landmark in 2004. Last week I met a former landmark friend (by chance) and we had a bit of an awkward conversation. She said that the last time she saw me was on that TV programme. Since I said on that programm
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I salute you RR for your fearless battle! Thanks a bunch!
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thanks novawash for your comment. It is always nice to hear that my videos are doing something good.
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it is too obvious...they look the same...sound the same...doin' the same. when will it stop?
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now my first video has reached over 10,000 views. One landmarker said that nobody listens to a grumpy old man like me. Maybe that is so but still I do get some positive feedback and some not so positive. Most landmarker never comment on the content of the video. They just say that I am repeating hearsay. Some attack me personally. Some just cannot take that there is a darker side of landmark.
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when I was involved (1994-98) there was this buzz about a mining company in south america that had "transformed" their whole business. The employees where all being subjected to landmark (vanto) technology and suddenly the company was being profitable again. This story about that company was used to make us (the landmark devotees) think that we were part of something bigger. I don
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I want a check of 13,000 usd in my mail box!
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makeup - sorry to read about the troubles you have been having (in your latest post) I am not a lawyer or a psychiatrist. But I know what to do when you have been in close contact with landmark (or a landmark devotee). Step back. Don't pick a fight with them. Let time pass. Then maybe get a lawyer to try to sue the employer. That will probably fail unfortunately. Take care of
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Hi makeup, I am very saddened to hear about what has happened. I would try here to prioritize thing; 1. take care of you husband. He should not take the forum with his bi-polar condition and he should probably not be working at that place anyway. 2. get a refund if your husband paid for it himself. That should not be any problem since he is on medication. 3. get a lawyer (wait w
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poweraddict tries to play forum leader...."move on"....please distinguish for me what that means poweraddict.... I have already moved on...but I still find it interesting to participate in discussions about landmark. But if to move on does not mean you can reflect on your past then I am guilty of being "stuck in my interpretation" or "stuck in my story". It is
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excellent video! But I wonder what will happen to the cat. Will it become the first Cat Forum Leader? I doubt it...it seemed mostly interested in the food offered.
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I wonder what Werner wants written on his tombstone? "messed up quite a few people's lives" "did all I could to get the max amount of money and minds" "I was brainwashed - what could I do?" "sorry people - it's all empty and meaningless anyway" "I personally killed many people's minds - I am sorry"
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As someone said before - I find it "intriguing" that Landmark and all the other LGATs are allowed to continue their "racket". How is that possible? I think it is due to that there are not that many people that do these seminars. In Sweden Landmark existed from the beginning of the 1980's to 2004. When I was involved (1994-1998) around 1000 people took the Landmark
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I think that what is most dangerous to the mind of an esthole/landmarker is that there is nothing really true. One day you can think that “I am powerful and I can climb this mountain” and the next when you realized you fell down and almost killed yourself you will know that what I said was not true. For the mind this becomes taxing after a while when you see that “your word” is not as powerful as
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QuoteVegiegardenerHi all I have not done any Landmark courses but am trying to understand things as I am concerned for someone whom I believe has been involved for about ten years. My question is: how does Landmark continue to extract money from people who have done all their courses? Is this where "Vanto" comes in? Do people get moved up to a new level of money-making? Or do they
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I have also done A Course In Miracles and found it to be a pretty similar brain washing scheme like landmark. Only that you do it at your own pace. The "Course" tells you that you are living in unreality. That this world is just a dream. The "Course" is supposedly Jesus Christ's voice being channelled. Course in Miracles made me think that the world we live in is not s
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My best advice is to try to stay away fro direct contact with landmark and landmarkers. Do what you can to spread the word. Talk to every contact that you may have in common. Warn them.
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I have done a lot of new age stuff. But after having been involved with landmark for 4 years I can surely say that when a landmarker gets angry with you they will become very obnoxious. It seems (like Elena said) that there is a kind of inherited anger coming from Werner Erhard. The way I have seen it is when forum leaders tell you that if you are attacked (ie being part of a cult) you should
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when you become deeply entangled in the landmark world your friendships become kind of shallow. They tend to be focused on how successful you are in living the landmark technology. If you start to doubt the technology your landmark friends HAVE to distance themselves from you. It becomes too hard to understand that the technology is not workin for the doubter. I had a lot of friends in the lan
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the simple answer is that they use you to bring in fresh meat. It is like a pyramid scheme. If I have done the landmark forum and I can recruit 4 more cult members then it has worked. Landmark's marketing plan (deviced by Werner Erhard) is based on implanting the thought in your mind that your success in life is dependant on how many people you can enroll into the cult. It is very simple
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QuotepaukerSo, is Zigzagidiot harassing you again? Why don't you post some of his/her drivel up here on the board so we can all have a laugh at how the Werner Brothers (the REAL ones) cracked open his head? it is a bit too much to reveal here - you may find out that I am looking like a Bart Simpson (50 years old) or you may find that I am like the guy who shot John Lennon. Or maybe I am ju
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I very well recognize how you can get back to your landmark/est hypomanic self when reading a pro landmark or pro Werner piece. It is all in the mind. You can do great things with your mind. You can also do evil things with your mind. For landmark it is very easy to spot the devilish part. They know that people kill themselves after taking part of their courses. They know that people suffer
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My videos is gaining some momentum. 2 individuals seems to be obsessed with me - navygolf and a guy who used to call himself zigzagidiot. search for nisseberka on youtube - you may find them informative if you have been invited to an introduction to "the Forum". Some people find them to be a lot of crap. You decide. nettie a "somewhat" disgruntled ex landmarker
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she probably was working on her statistics :-) I know landmarkers who are under pressure to enroll will use any opportunity either to relax and don't give a shit about enrolling and get some peace of mind´- or set their mind to enroll the person next to you. The plane setting is perfect to strike up a conversation because you are stuck there and can not leave (at least not very far).
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I think post traumatic stress symptoms may arise in dreams. I actually dreamt last night that I was back in the forum course (in sweden) trying to tell some people about the true nature of landmark. They ignored me and I awoke relieved that it was just a bad dream. In dreams I think past traumatic experiences will come up. You don't have your defences on as you have when you are awake.
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Pauker - I feel for you and your family. I posted a response to this thread a few days back (tried to) but my computer hang. In short I said that a lot of landmarker's days are kind of bipolar; - you wake up in the morning doubting landmark - you have to "generate yourself as a landmark leader" - you go to work (as staff or unpaid leader) - you work very long days until
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oh - did they change it back from strong suit to winning formula? that makes it easier for us oldtimers to keep track :-)
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Landmark creates a hypomanic state for a lot of their participants. Watch my videos on youtube and you will get some info there. In my case I was in a hypomanic state from april to july the year I participated with landmark. I had never been in that state before. To say that bipolar disease lies dormant - I don't know much about that. I think even non bipolar people tend to get ove
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I feel for you in this troubled time. It may be a hard thing to convince your man about the bad side of landmark. But give it a try. Some thing that you present to him may hit home. You never know what little thing may put a wrench into the new thought system that has been "implanted" in him. nettie
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nice to have you here Billie. One common feeling when you have been duped by a cult is shame. That you fell into their trap. A lot of exlandmarkers keep their silence because of that. They just want to forget the whole thing. Thankfully there are quite a few that comes here to discuss. Landmark sometimes says that "the LM Forum is an experience you will never get over". And that i
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