Wow, so Jon Willis is full of beezwax, what a shocker. It's always the ones showing up saying, I really don't care too much about this stuff, it just works for me is all, I don't have a problem if you don't like it, because I'm so open minded you see because I belong to this great group that makes me so open minded . . . They always seem to be the worst trolls. Tryi
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Have I mentioned that there might not be words to describe what I think and feel about lgats? Oh, but there are words, many curses, and also a few gutteral nausea sounds, some wretching . . . Skeptic, did your sister have a strong sense of self, before Landmark? Did she seem really solid, and like she had convictions, and knew who she was?
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Jon, you wrote: I realized that even if Byron Katie is a total fraud, lying, whatever, I will still use The Work for as long as it works for me. That's where for me there's a difference between The Work as a process of inquiry and the rest of the stuff that can build up around people, organizations, etc - being in this forum has helped me to get even more clear on that. ----
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I just Googled Byron Katie to see if any of these threads come up, but I went through 5 pages and didn't see anything. What can we do to make the Rick Ross site come up sooner when people Google Byron Katie?
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Hey Skeptic, This authentic thing is truly weird to me. When my ex got out of the Forum, he said a lot of things to me that made it seem like he was realizing how inauthentic he'd been with me in the past. It's very upsetting to be told this by the person who said he loved you so deeply. And then he said he wanted to be authentic with me now, but it seemed like he was farther away a
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I know we're not talking about Bandler here, specifically, but since we're dealing with hypnosis and BK, here's an interested Mother Jones article on Bandler. "Bandler’s story is, in a sense, a parable of the New Age. Having rejected many of the boundaries that govern relations among people, he was like a sailor without anchor or sails, adrift in a peculiarly New Age sea.
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Anti-cult,, What info would you recommend to start learning about Ericksonian hypnosis? I'd like a 101 course on it, what are its basic components? I always imagined that I could not be hypnotized, but I suppose if one is not aware that it's taking place at all . . . It seems hypnotism is at the core of what is so dangerous about cults, gurus and LGATs. My ex, right before he
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You might think "insane" is too harsh, but I think there's something in her eyes that, to me, just instantly raises the "wacko" red flag. Also, because of the nature of her books, her appearance is very incongruous to me. She looks like a Miami Beach widow on the make. This is the woman who lives purely in her spirit?? With that hair??
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When I saw the pictures of Byron Katie on her book jackets, my first reaction was -- this woman is insane. She looks very disturbing to me, and quite phony. Just based on the pictures I would never in a million years read her books.
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Oh . . . my . . . god. That was horrifying. Thanks, John. I'm going to be creeped out for the rest of the day!!! Good to know what happens when Landmark folks open a restaurant. Not surprising either. Let's all pray they don't imagine the possibility of starting a health clinic. I can just see them, asking someone vomiting blood in the waiting room what the community can e
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Here's more about the Advanced Course: In This Program You will: • Generate a life vision, anchored in reality, in which you and others can become fully engaged. • Acquire the know-how to translate your vision into practical, effective action. • Step outside familiar, habitual ways of thinking to invent new perspectives and approaches to being and acting. • Develop a facility for
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From the Landmark website, description of the Advanced Course: Each of us has a sense of something possible beyond the ordinary. Each of us has moments when something about our lives, our family, our community, our world awakens in us a sense of possibility. Each of us has glimpses of that most fundamental of all possibilities - that life really could be extraordinary. The Advanced Course is b
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I invite you all to inquiry, to your own marvelous death of the body (before it dies) as you understand it to be and to be born of who and what you are not to your mind and then to understand what you are in that, as that unknowable known. I hope that you have followed what I have just written, as so many of you who love The Work for so many months or years have been able to do. Your own answer
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Hi Shadow and Zorro, Thank you both for writing to me. I've been on a much, much needed vacation. Well, it was a moving trip that I turned into a vacation. I spent some time on very beautiful beaches, and this did wonders for my head and heart. It really helped to break me out of the awful hole I was trapped in for a month. I feel like I'm healing now, like I'm becoming my old
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From Louise Samway's "Dangerous Persuaders" INDIVIDUALS Call them what you will, gurus, masters, leaders or faith healers may operate on their own or with the backing of small or extremely large international organisations. The guru business is now a booming industry worth billions of dollars a year. The one thing that stands out with all gurus and leaders is how mu
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I wonder if it would be a good idea to write a letter about this and send it to organizations that deal with rape crisis and incest. Perhaps professionals would begin to make public statements about the EXTREME dangers of these twisted teachings. Obviously if BK is to promote her 4 questions and reversal techniques as the ultimate truths, it must be applicable in every situation. That it becom
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One last thing on Byron Katie, Even in the video I saw of the interview with the Israeli woman, it was obvious that the goal was for BK to lead this women to accept BK's reality, there was nothing else that was allowed to happen, no other goal of the interaction. Until the woman "got it" -- up on stage in front of a rapt audience -- BK would not be satisfied. That's a lot o
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Anti-cult, The more you deconstruct Byron Katie, the more I think you've got her nailed, and the more disturbing all of this becomes. I'd really be interested to find out exactly where she was supposedly housed while she was "crazy." You may be absolutely right about the games Katie is playing, it sounds right on the money. And she didn't actually read jj's mi
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It was sort of like... well, that moment in the "Lord of the Rings" movie where the elf-queen is talking to Frodo in his mind...??? LOL! That's the only thing I can think of to explain it. I would think a question, look up at Katie, and she would be staring right at me... and would nod "yes" as if she knew what I was questioning. That really did a number on me... and it a
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You know it would be interesting to have people pose certain questions directly to Byron Katie. Does she ever take questions publicly?
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Seriously! Mary K, listening to your story and others it really seems like total derangement, what kind of brainwashing or hypnosis was your husband exposed to? Did they put LSD in the coffee or what? This is sooooo bizarre. Does he still work and hold down a job?
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Guess she never listened to the Beatles.
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No, Ralpher, I don't hate you. I hate the way you think. But you're not your thoughts, right? Or . . . is that true?
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Yes, by all means, Byron Katie. We can return to the topic. She sucks. My two cents.
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Also, Anti-Cult . . . I guess I should explain that it is in large part due to the unusual life I've lived that this board and all its issues is important to me. What is real, what is true . . . I've had reason to question this more than most people. Because I know life is indeed full of mystery and the realms of energy that comprise creation can be to some degree accessed, perceived
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Anti-cult, What is supernatural anyway? I think I've proven my aversion to bullshit through my posts, hopefully you can believe me when I say I'm wholly interested in truth. I have lived my life surrounded by people interested in metaphysics and I've seen and experienced enough myself to know that many things are possible. I've met real psychics alongside the frauds. Psy
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Hi Anti-cult, Well . . . the Kundalini question. I can't prove it, no. And I'm sure many phony gurus have used its supposed existence to lure people in, based on what is supposed to happen to you when it "awakens." Oh, and let's not forget the lure of Tantra, one of the most debased and exploited of the Eastern teachings, which uses sex to trigger the release of the Ku
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Anticult: The way to deal with this is to simply look at BEHAVIOR not intent. Is their behavioral ethical? Does it hurt people? Is it dishonest? Are they lying and maniputing people? So we can forget intent as that is not knowable, and just focus on the visible behaviors. The problem here is that we don't always know these answers right away, maybe not for many years. The lies and m
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vlinden, You are so sharp and quick witted! I enjoy your posts and get a lot out of them. Thanks for all your support. -jj Aw, thanks jj. You should've hung out with me today, moping and suffering so pathetically over my ex (who was eaten by Landmark) no one even wanted to eat lunch with me. Oh, if only Byron Katie were right. If only I were a vase of cut flowers . . . . Your r
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This is really funny. According to Ralpher, you won't have any problems if you just don't do what Byron Katie tells you to do. WELL WHY THE HELL GO TO HER SCHOOL THEN RALPHER???? Did you do anything she asked? Or were you like a high school kid not going to class but just hanging out cause that's where all your friends are? You still didn't answer my question about why this
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