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17 years ago
Excalibur
Boy did she dial a wrong number!! lmao
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 years ago
Excalibur
Quoteautomaticftp "the ultimatum:" She cannot be with someone who has not completed a Landmark course. Another relationship put into peril thanks to Landmark. How nice. I ask you all, does this Landmark crap sound like an "Education" as they claim to be, or does this situation resemble more of a cult-like or religious-like behavior? What we see here is someone who has been
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Smearing Rick Ross, huh? Well, I have one thing to say about that: RICK ROSS FOR PRESIDENT!!!! I'd vote for him.
Forum: Hate Groups
18 years ago
Excalibur
Quote"I was wondering where the line is drawn between being a critic of isreal and being anti semetic?" To answer that question one could write a book. It's very hard to capsualize this topic in a basic summary but I'll try. Israel is a nation, it's nationals are "Israelis". If the Israeli government is in the wrong of course it's legitimate to critic
Forum: Hate Groups
18 years ago
Excalibur
I've been sifting through the archives for the past few days now. It's nothing less than fascinating. This certainly was a case of Landshark biting off way more than they could chew. Looks good on 'em, let them choke on it. Up till now I was not familiar with the acronym "SLAP" but I'm happy this despicable abuse of the judicial system at least has a name. "S
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
QuoteHopeThey, the LE service reps, tell you it's nothing to worry about. In fact, I truly believe they expect people to call and ask questions about the waivers because it is a great way to apply more pressure on prospective participants. They love-bomb callers by telling them how smart they are to ask all these wonderful questions, but really, no one gets hurt by LE. Hope, not to be ov
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Thanks everyone for your posts, especially Concerned Oz who provided Landmark’s Agreement (including the waiver clause which is the part I really wanted to see) and Hope for answering some of my questions. So let’s see what we have here. We have an organization that calls itself “Education” but yet has an agreement contract that’s concerned more with your psychiatric history than your academi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Quoteskeptic Since when is education so stressful? Well I must take issue with you skeptic, education is quite stressful. Don't you think medical or law school would be stressful? Hell, I found high school stressful at times, I'm sure everyone did. But a few questions I've been asking for a long time about Landmark but haven't gotten any answers to yet are: if Landmark is a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Thanks Concerned Oz, that's exactly what I wanted to see. Quote"BY SIGNING THIS I AM AGREEING TO HAVE ANY ISSUE OR CLAIM ARISING OUT OF MY PARTICIPATION IN THE LANDMARK FORUM DECIDED BY NEUTRAL ARBITRATION AND I AM FREELY GIVING UP MY RIGHT TO A JURY OR COURT TRIAL." Okay, how do I articulate this? Well, I'll give it a try. Here goes: THERE IS NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT FOR ONE SE
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
It would be interesting to see a copy of Landmark's waiver. Does anybody have the wording they can post here? Does Landmark give their participants a copy of the documents they have you sign like any reputable company would do? Hope said: QuoteAll the waivers were just formalities, like the signs you see in car washes... I don't know if that is your quote or your doctor's Ho
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
On the subject of lawsuits, I read with much interest on www.cultnews.com the summary of Landmark's lawsuit against Rick Ross and the subsequent withdrawal of that suit. Quote“Schreiber says, "At no time has Mr. Ross been willing… to take The Landmark Forum." That is a false statement. I repeatedly agreed to take the… Forum. However, under no circumstances would I agree to sign
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Nettie: You should get some sort of award or medal for posting this thread. As a former insider you have given us a perspective that up to now was largely unknown to me and I'm sure a lot of other people. You exposed the evil nature of Landmark and have shown what despicable creeps those who run Landmark are. Thank you. I have no doubt that this thread will prevent many a poor sap from e
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Quotelooking for helpFrom what I see, it appears most of the higher ups in Landmark successes are limited to Landmark successes, ie registering more people in the programs. Landmark's staff performance appraisals are based on how many recruits they can rope in, not on how effective their "technology" is on particpants. In fact, Landmark leaders have monthly recruiting quotas. Her
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
QuoteOut.Of.Landmark Their salaries might be low, but I am sure the profit sharing is good.. But according to Wikipedia, Landmark does not distribute dividends. But then again, why should they? Why should this money-hungry organization share their profits when they are able to get the majority of their staffers to willingly work for nothing or as Sonnie_dee pointed out above, near or even belo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Q: How many brainwashed Scam-mark fools who work/recruit for nothing while the big-wigs keep the money does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: There IS no lightbulb! Don't forget, there's no such thing as reality. Unless of course you choose to PERCEIVE there's one.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
What I find amusing is the Landmarkian's name, "critical thinker". Amusing because Landmark's most feared nemesis is the critical thinker - it's the trait they seek to destroy in their dedicated flock. After all, brainwashing and critical thinking are like oil and water - they don't mix. Calling a Landmarkian "critical thinker" reminds me of the defunct
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Hellooooooooooo, my turn!! QuoteWell, now I quite sure that this post will be met with the same dim witted pablum pewking responses that the first post did. Oh my. I think we‘ve upset somebody. Such “integrity” this fellow is showing by these words, huh? But what did the genius expect by posting on an anti-cult website that attempts to warn people of dangerous cults and unscrupulous scams?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
QuotefoodguypdxI have taken both the Forum and Advanced Course. To those who speak of brainwashing or manipulation I challenge you to defend those points of view. I have read time and time again how "I know someone who did it" or "I lost someone". If you yourself have not done the Forum and are basing your statements, etc. on hear say then you are speaking only from that re
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
QuoteI agree with you that it should be considered criminal that programs like this are targeting kids....It is wrong As a law-abiding citizen and taxpayer I've often wondered why the government hasn't stepped in, shut down and prosecute those responsible for the type of abuse Landmark and other similar cults impose on innocent children. It seems to be a type of child abuse the govern
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
You raise an interesting topic Patrick. To address it one first needs to acknowledge one fact: you can label Landmark many things such as scumbuckets, profiteers, liars, cultists, low-lifes, etc. but one thing you can’t call them is stupid. They know what they’re doing and they do it well. Landmark has a clever racket going that operates like a well-oiled machine. Taking Landmark is like taki
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Wow, what a post! I see you're a new member. As an RR message board regular, welcome and thanks for sharing your excellent insights. It's people like you and posts like your's that do humankind a service by exposing nefarious cults and scams like Landmark. Sounds like you've been through LM. Please contribute more!!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Glam said: QuoteMy friend absolutely refuses to hear anything negative about LEC, dismissing me with an arrogant "you'll never get it." Next time he says that to you, tell him, "I just hope you're right friend. Because I DON'T WANT IT!!" lol
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
While the information on this thread confirms what I already know about how despicably manipulative Landmark is to unsuspecting people, it makes me wonder how anyone with any moral standards at all can stomach an organization like this. It’s all about money. Those in organized crime use violence, threats of violence and intimidation to achieve their goals; Landmark uses a variety of brainwas
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
QuoteI did read about some of its controversies before registering and saw it being described by some as a "cult." I've always been curious about cults ..and some possibly very stupid and irrational part of me decided that it might be worth paying $410 just for the experience of being in a "cult" without having to committ to one Knowing what you know about heroin or coc
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
Quote"Yeh they charge $$$ for their product, and people give willingly (ie. no-one puts a gun to your head) of their time to have this work continue in the world, and it just wouldn't work if there weren't People Who Assist... I originally wasn't going to respond to this programmed Landmark twit because the other posters have done such a fine job and have covered most areas. B
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
My response to YZFRI: Quote:"Having attended a graduation ceremony, i experience the opposite of what Excalibur wrote. My family told me what to expect, they let me know what would be shared at the start, they also advised that i would be asked to attend a "mini forum" and that i would be asked to join." I experienced no "mini forum" that evening. L
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18 years ago
Excalibur
What I'd like to know is what happened to the website "Inside the Landmark Forum"? That was the best site around telling the truth about Landmark (except of course the RR website! lol). The moderator called himself "NoLandmark". His email was Nolandmark@yahoo.com. I tried email
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Excalibur
I know you want to know which countries, and by that I take it you mean which governments consider Landmark a cult. But as far as established cult information and awareness services and organizations worldwide are concerned, I found Landmark listed in the following countries: U.S.A. (except for Cult Awareness Network (CAN) which is now owned by a scientologist), U.K., Australia, New Zealand, Fran
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Excalibur
You refer to the "integrity" Landmark shows in their relentless and illegal telephone calls. Landmark, or Scam-mark as I call it doesn't know the meaning of the word "integrity". How about "choices" people are free to make that Scam-mark preaches to their brainwashed flock? Seems if you "choose" to reject Landmark you get incessantly hounded on the pho
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Excalibur
Landmark Education Corporation is despicable from beginning to end. What I find particularly repugnant are their business practices, especially how they trap unsuspecting people into their cult. They use the trust of family, friends and other people in your life to lure you into their meeting centers so they can put the high-pressure sales pitch on you. This is how they do it: when a family m
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