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20 years ago
Katydid
For several years in the late 1980s and early 1990s, my older sister encouraged me to consider taking the Forum. I rejected the idea outright for a long time. Finally, to shut her up, I went to one of the special evenings (this was in 1990 or 1991). At the Landmark special evening, I concluded that the Forum was for kooks. As far as I was concerned, my sister's participation was evidence
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
I'm having a really hard time following the exchange on this thread right now. Why are entire posts being copied and reposted? Sometimes there's a reply at the bottom and sometimes there's not. Why do the some of the posts go all the way across the page and some look like haiku? P-D: I am having a really hard time exchanging ideas with you because your questions are
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: Apology unnecessary, since I didn't think you intended it as a personal attack, but more a general observation about the phenomenon of blaming the injured party. I was just trying to connect the two concepts - narcissim and blame shifting. So I tried to PM you but I can't until I change my profile. Regrettably, I can't figure out how to change my profile. I clicked
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
P-D: Unclear. First Are you saying #4 is incorrect, i.e., that in some LF the exercise is a fear excercise and in others it is called and empowerment excercise? Second or are you saying that your question: "according to u is it ok for landmark to use hpynosis on the crowds in order to enlighten them, according to landmarks way of thinking ?" does not assume tha
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: I don't think they have changed the format since 12/02, but clearly the LF leader has discretion based on our different experiences. Was yours in the Alexandria Virginia area (as mine was) or elsewhere? Wow: It sounds like your LF leader was a tyrannt. We got one "integrity" remark sometime on Saturday, but I swear our group largely ignored it. Our LF leader schedule
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: Thank you for your concern - I saw a specialist today about the surgery that may provide for some relief (I had surgery a year ago this month and that was somewhat helpful). Again, I think you are right on about the Forum leader making (or breaking) the Forum. This past weekend we had a guy called Alan Cahn (no pun intended!). I do not remember the names of previous Forum folk who l
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: I know what blame shifting is but not what narcissistic blame shifting is, but I think I understand what you're saying: If you are on safari, you can avoid or minimize the risk if snake bite and malaria because you KNOW that the snakes and the mosquitos are there. However, you cannot avoid a trap intentionally set in the trail for you because you don't know it's there,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: I agree with you that the Landmark premise that comes through is that you can "disappear" all physical illness is phooey. My own experience is that the broader principle that your thoughts can and do affect your wellness and are integrally related to some physical conditions is a valid principle. In my case, the only only only medical treatment that helped IBS was biofeedba
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
P-D Why not tell everybody your top three or top five objections to LF and whether you got anything (good or bad) out of it. What I've gotten so far is: 1. Landmark uses hypnoosis 2. Landmark uses hypnosis without permission 3. A program that involves hypnosis is no place for education 4. In some LF excercises, attendees are told it is a fear excercise and in others in is
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
P-D: "my question is how does this empower someone. how does making someone under hypnosis more powerful ?" I assume you meant to include the word(s) "feel fearful" or "fearful" between the words "someone" and "under" What I got out of the exercise was the following: 1. Each individual can create an emotional and physical resp
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hi Hope: I am back after a break, although I have been checking the boards and following the discussion. I haven't felt up to contributing - but I am here, now. So, I did the Landmark Forum this past weekend and the conclusion is this evening. By background, my first LF was in 1996 and I did the Advanced Course in 1999. I have never done a seminar, although I am now signed up for on
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope & Boz: Disappeared! Sorry. My story is that the holidays have been a busy time! I have been interested in Boz' replies - although I'm unclear on whether the Forum was overall (or completely) a positive or negative experience for you Boz. . . Call me dense, but one the one hand you've commented that you had a pretty serious breakdown due in part to the Forum, a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
Hope: I'm enjoying the correspondence, too and will write in detail this weekend.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
I whole heartedly agree with your Herein lies the problem summary re: LF. It's OUR way or the WRONG way (not even the highway since they are loathe to lose a dissident). I have a serious physical problem and fully expect that I would be told that my eight-inch surgical scar pain and the scientifically measurable bilateral nerve compression is a "racket." Hooie. Actually yesterd
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
So - I can't say that I found the Forum to me so special or unique - I liken it to a different perspective. For example - if I were taking a photograph of a well-known historical marker, such as the Washington Monument, the actual finished end product would look different depending upon a wide variety of factors: what type of camera, what type of lense, what type of film, where I was stand
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
20 years ago
Katydid
I have taken the Forum (1995) and the Advanced Course (1999). I have not taken any of the many seminars (a seminar is free with each of these classes). I have a very healthy skepticism about Landmark Education. Groupthink and hard sales pitches do not float my boat. Nonetheless, I did have a "breakthrough" as a direct result of the work I did in the Forum. My oldest sibling and I
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