For a great article on PTSD about people who have been cults see the article by Ilona C. Cuddy at Especially interesting is chapter four - What Effect do Cults Have on Their Victims? I found the parts about 'floating' especially interesting because my girlfriend has often said "I feel as if I am floating"; Now, it makes sense...
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I have been doing a lot of reading regarding the influence of LGATs and was led on to the subject of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) or as it is sometimes called Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. While researching online, I came across references to the many affects and symptoms of PTSD, most (nearly all) of which I could relate to my girlfriend who has been through a number of LGA
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I'm pretty excited. I had an opportunity today to spend some time with my girlfriend. She is a kinesiologist and was having some trouble with her back - her sacrum, in fact (the point where one's power lies) - and I said I would lie on her plinth while she worked through me to deal with the pain. She agreed. An opportunity arose for me to ask her whether she had ever been hypnotis
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Good luck, Deborah I believe one of the first and most important steps is to have your husband work with you on your own ground, away from the influence of PSI. Educate yourself as much as you can because getting to marriage therapy might be only a short step along the path to working the nefarious influence of PSI out of your lives. There may be times he switches between the personality
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In my experience, mind control and thought reform most definitely exist. It is commonly used in Large Group Awareness Training. Take a look at the following article: The outline in the article is typical or very similar to the format of most LGATs. Mind control of thought reform happened to my girlfriend when all eight of the thought reform processes were used by a man supposed to be p
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I have some questions related to questioning a person's involvment in a LGAT that has cult-type, mind control charateristics: Assuming one finds plenty of proof of dirt on the LGAT: - When is the right time to broach the subject? - What worked and what didn't work for people who have done it? - What approaches seem to have really got people (culties) questioning themselves?
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I finally worked this one out after piecing things together. Not having been on the course, and with my girlfriend having been told not to say what went on during the course so as not to spoil it for others (yes, right), I have had to reconstruct this illusion from what I have learnt in conversation with her (back when that used to happen). It seems, though, THIS WAS WHAT IMPRESSED THE RECRUIT
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Thanks for the post, Estie. One line open to me is the media. I work for a small company run by two of the most respected press men in South Africa. They have won numerous awards, both locally and overseas, and one of them is the head of the School of Journalism at the University of the Witwatersrand and a frequent expert guest on the media on television. I am sure they can help me get my s
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Well, I phoned my girlfriend a short while ago and asked her why she hasn't invited me around to her place for over a month now. And guess what? Her answer: "I don't know what to say. I just need some space. I don't feel like talking". The same babble I have heard for the past month. Ironically enough, that falls in exactly with the last time she saw this conman/guru L
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Thanks for the input midonov 123. I haven't been put through any of that kind of thing. That's because my girlfriend - who never has any time to do anything with me any more - has clammed up. Maybe it is the detaching that Carlos Castaneda speaks about because that is what she has been schooled in (mind controlled) and now believes in. What I am saying is that a so-called guru an
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It seems to me that the idea of co-dependency is one that many LGATs use to break the bonds between recuits (for want of a better word) and their loved ones, especially in the case of husband/wife and boyfriend/girlfriend. They suggest people are not reaching their full potential and being manipulated by their partners (oh the irony). Is this the experience that readers of the forum have g
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Corboy - pretty prophetic words you once wrote: Posted: 10-29-2004 09:15 PM Post subject: Complex question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It does not appear that Castaneda got his material from any known LGAT. But someone may come up with a way to use Castaneda type material in an LGAT format. C created what some commentator
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Corboy - pretty prophetic words you once wrote: Posted: 10-29-2004 09:15 PM Post subject: Complex question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It does not appear that Castaneda got his material from any known LGAT. But someone may come up with a way to use Castaneda type material in an LGAT format. C created what some commentator
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Interestingly, I came across this quote on the thread called "Ourageous Betrayal: "I reflected recently on what I thought was CONFIDENCE while I was under the lgat spell and I realized it was ARROGANCE. I see all the described symptoms in my sister. The patronizing "I'm enlightened, you're not" smirk." It seems to be a common thing. Those sucked in by the
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Castaneda's way of sorcery - including lies and being ruthless, which in accounts of the way he treated those close to him appears to be true of the way he acted - opens up the opportunity for one to use others and have an excuse for any behaviour. It becomes an end justifies the means idea, but what is the end one aims for anyway? Graduation to Jerk University and a lack of feeling for o
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Just to add another idea on Castaneda. He proclaims himself a sorceror, and one of the things that is acceptable to a sorcerer is lying. So, after first using mind control tactics at a course, someone who uses Castaneda as the basis of their teachings can then cover their butt when they are caught in a lie. They are simply doing sorcery to challenge their students!? Also, it also gives them
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Just to let you guys know, anything offered is truly appreciated and valued. Just the fact that you take the time to say something provides me with support, which is something that makes working through a situation like this easier - and as you will know it is not easy. Thank you so much.
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Thanks again, Nutrino. Your input certainly gives me valuable advice and I will put it to use. I need to be as well educated as possible when I do get the opportunity to brace the subject of the great hoax. The website Sustained Action - - has been a brilliant source for information on Castaneda. It has led me all over the show on the Internet, but within two days I probably have minimum 250
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Thank for your input Nutrino. I so agree with you on Castaneda. The challenge I am faced with is getting the truth of his story through to my girlfriend. She was recruited to attend this so-called guru's first course on a day that she had been doing a kinesiology course in which, in order to be able to do the work on one's clients, one has to experience everything they have to experi
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While browing through the forums, I came across mention of Carlos Castaneda - thanks corboy - and decided to look into his teachings because this is what a so-called guru, who has my girlfriend wrapped around his finger, bases most of his teachings on. I found incredible information at for which I am truly grateful, but would like to find out as much as I can. This so-called guru, whose cl
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Hi I am aged 36 and from South Africa. My girlfriend (38) is becoming more and more deeply trapped by a so-called 'guru' and it is hard watching her fall deeper and deeper under his spell. She has, although she doesn't realise it, given over the power in her life to him. If, by chance, someone from South Africa reads this, the man's name is Louis Smit, and his company i
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