Off the KidsinMinistry website sent in by an annonymous source ... Yeah making god real for your kids ... Sounds out of control to me, even with the hokey music ... How are these people running these things not in jail or reprimanded harshly? Mankind searching for higher authority stumble around with clouded vision part 43 billion.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Geeze and I liked Beck too ... well my only option now is to start a political party that taxes churches, redistrubutes the funds into educational scholarships for rational and critical thinking, hard sciences and skepticism. Possibly instate a hard science council oligarchy over the other bodies typically found in governance replete with legislative veto powers. Hell maybe someday people will gr
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I visit this site daily, thank you for providing this place, this valuable resource :D
Forum: Destructive Churches

Frankly most of the LE types I've met look quite nice in appearance but are rather child like in mind, and beneath the surface their lives are in fucking shambles just like everyone else. They talk a mean game but that's all it is, talk.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God. George H. W. Bush That's just wow ... I'm more outspoken these days about being an athiest. Luckily I live in Canada but many of my net pals are American. While things can go a little quiet when I mention it, they are respectful enough and no
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Religion truly is a beast. You can murder a prominant scientist and usher in a dark age - see Cyril. You can fight for god and get your neighbours blown to crap - see Hezbollah. See the spanish inquisition, or see Algeria in the 90's, or the endemic global terrorism, or the plutocrat/cult versions without a godhead save the almighty buck - see Landmark or Scientology heh ... Religion is
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Oh I posted some comments below the video :D
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Since this thread brings up the question of a tie between examples of fascism of old and unrest in the middle east I've decided to post a link to some media I've just recently seen. Disclaimer: It's a one sided presentation, demagoguery even. It's also got slick production(do not be dazzled heh), and a fair bit grizzly at times. I would love to see a rebuttal to th
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The torture of the girl really bothered me, was it supposed to be ironic or something? If V didn't trust her he could have interned her humanely and magically overthrow the fascists with his superpowers like he did in any case. Instead we get glorification of violence, and a lot of stupid allegory and obvious pandering to a certain mindset. Movies should try to be more genuinely creati
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Hi, I think more need be said about a person's merit than stating he's a man of god. I'm an athiest, and you can imagine my disposition towards avowed thiests. Is the product widely known? Can it be shown independantly to have proven merit? I could care less who runs the company to be honest, why get defensive? How is the business run? I mean if it's all good it shoul
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

I may have lost some of the message in the context that was presented in this movie, fine nit-pick if you want. If someone tortures me to test my values or loyalty i'm not gonna give them a sloppy kiss on the mouth when it's over, I'm going to take one of V's knives and shove it his fricking spine, fascist regime in power or not. The whole of the movie tries to be cute a
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New Thought, heh funny that sounds so familiar to me. I don't know much about the Unity church folks keep bringing up. My exposure to new thought is through this Church of Religious Science my folks go to. Ernest Holmes being the founder I'm told. Anyhow much to my annoyance I constantly hear my mother talking about 'new thought' as some sort of huge boon to everyone. I don
Forum: Destructive Churches

Unity sounds alot like RS to me. My mom is a regular at RS services. She was introduced to the LE FORUM by members there. She was offered jobs with various multi level marketing schemes by the same members. They've also started some NLP courses being taught right in the church and have occasionally had some New Age style self help seminar circuit replete with books and tapes type grade A jac
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This will not be a deep analysis but, last night having been invited to V for Vendetta (regrettably i didn't read a review or know who the producers/script writers were) which now figures to be the most artless movie I've seen to date ... At one point in the movie the co-protagonist is tortured secretly and brutally by the supposed protagonist. This is supposedly meant to cleanse he
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My experience is through my mother and I'm afraid she doesn't fit the criteria of your inquiry. She met LECies at her place of worship. She took the forum, was in the mindset for about a week and then started to return to some semblance of normalacy. Partly due to my intervention but suprisingly more because of an introduction leader's persistant hounding of her to take a job in no
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

So I'm not feeling particularily kind towards RS. Not feeling particularily kind towards R.W.Emerson either(I had read here some musings about how he's one of the better parts of RS's influences). “the vision of genius comes by renouncing the too officious activity of the understanding, and giving leave and amplest privilege to the spontaneous sentiment,” This guy had some we
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My Mother and Stepfather are regular attendees. And I dismissed this new age type church at first(as harmless). However recent events have made me very concerned for my family. My mother was introduced to Landmark Education by fellow RS members. She seemingly came around and agreed with me that Landmark is bad news. However a few weeks lately she is enrolled in Neuro Linguistic Programming. Th
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There are secular movements, idealists perhaps that put the focus on people, not easy answers or pre-ordained rules passed down from on high. I liked reading this document but am left wondering how you sell it to the masses who are for the majority dogged theists.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Speak of the devil, heh ... My mom is an attendee of that church. A few of her 'friends' there convinced her to attend Landmark's 'The Forum'. Another friend suggested they get a financial advisor, WFG/WMA ... What an 'Effing morass ... Pyramid schemes swirling round and round ... Forget about being objective, the bloody place is a goddamn hotspot for grif
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I emailed this guy a couple of weeks ago in my own quest for information. No reply as of yet. In fact, trying to contact anyone offering glowing endorsement in LEC brochures has gotten me absolutely nowhere.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

My mom recently attended 'the Forum', and i'm trying to learn all i can in a short span of time. She's changed quite a bit in recent days going from alarmingly euphoric and childlike to cool and in charge, and yet strangely distant. I don't know what to expect next. My stepdad tries to show that he's unconcerned by staying busy. However i think he's avoiding mom
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