QuoteNorthwestI read brave heart’s post in which he quoted Mike from his sermon “Recession Proof: Your Profession” My initial reaction was to say that Braveheart took what he was saying out of context and give mike the benefit of the doubt. I went and listened to the sermon and would encourage people here to start at about the halfway point of it and listen for a few minutes to find the part BHe
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Quotetell the truthI was talking with someone from tp the other day and listened as he spoke of those who are sent vs. those who 'went' . I asked him, since I knew him to be a good friend of Pastor Jackie and Sids how he was dealing with them being gone and if it had disrupted the balance in any way. He said, well, Pastor Mike and Cyndi believe that they will be back and that there is
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QuoteGodsWarrior Do they accept tithes and offerings at your church? Is it taught? Yes, they do collect donations. In all the years I have attended I have heard only one message on giving. It was spoken about in the larger context of a passage. My pastor preaches through whole books of the bible, chapter by chapter, so when giving is mentioned in a chapter he will comment. But again, I have
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GW, I need to apologize. My use of the terms "depraved" and "weak minded" were out of line and not helpful to the discussion. I apologize. I am thankful that you have taken time to post on this forum and your questions are valid. I would like to encourage you to take time, if you have not done so already, to read through each posting on the RLc and the TPc threads. Thi
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GW, I need to apologize. My use of the terms "depraved" and "weak minded" were out of line and not helpful to the discussion. I apologize. I am thankful that you have taken time to post on this forum and your questions are valid. I would like to encourage you to take time, if you have not done so already, to read through each posting on the RLc and the TPc threads. T
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I appreciate BrokenHearted's point. We need to always be on guard that we don't become like that which we see happening at TPc i.e. not allowing for questions etc. from members of TPc. Brokenhearted I am guessing that when you have seen those brutal posts to tpc members you have PMed the poster and have asked them to reconsider their tone etc? As for me, I invite the regular po
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QuoteBrokenheartedTPR~ I didn't mean to imply that the person *warning* me used the term "dangerous territory", that was mine, and mine alone. I don't think that it matters where the warning came from though, if it was a righteous message...I'm still weighing that. I honestly don't believe that the message was a manipulitive one, nor was it malicious. In fact,
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GodsWarrior QuoteI definitely don't think that Pastor David Luster is weak minded. I can't imagine what happened to you in that first year to have so much disdain for the TPC and the Villamors. You seem very hurt after 12+ years. Have you found a good church since then? I also would not assume that all TPC people are weak minded followers. Churches have different beliefs and all fr
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Broken Hearted, There will be those who will seek to attack you for pointing out Truth. Those who challenge you and state you are "in dangerous territory"-are they posters from this forum or are they apologists for TPC (rhetorical question)? The labeling of one as a slanderer or gossip is typical of controlling and manipulative churches. This forum is a place for you to process y
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QuoteGodsWarrior I definitely don't think that Pastor David Luster is weak minded. I can't imagine what happened to you in that first year to have so much disdain for the TPC and the Villamors. You seem very hurt after 12+ years. Have you found a good church since then? I also would not assume that all TPC people are weak minded followers. Churches have different beliefs and all from th
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QuoteGodsWarriorI have found Pastor David to be a genuine man. I don't think he believes that he is being decieved. I wonder if he just is in agreement with the vision?. Does he belive in prosperity? Does he believe in healings? Does he believe that Pastor Mike is an apostle? David's facebook frequently speaks quite positive about The Villamor family and Tony Cunningham. To me TP SKa
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QuoteGodsWarriorI have found Pastor David to be a genuine man. I don't think he believes that he is being decieved. I wonder if he just is in agreement with the vision?. Does he belive in prosperity? Does he believe in healings? Does he believe that Pastor Mike is an apostle? David's facebook frequently speaks quite positive about The Villamor family and Tony Cunningham. To me TP SKa
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To those who have decided to call Turning Point Church Lebanon their home church: Welcome. Before you are tempted to quickly pass by this thread and write it off as rebel rousing or worse, I encourage you to take the time to do some research. May I suggest that you take the time to read through all the posts on the RLC/Radiant Life Church threads (there are several and it will require a commi
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Earlier I gave a satirical accounting of the so called church planting journey of the apostle Mike. Since that posting there have been some who point out that a couple of those churches were not claimed by Mike as plants. The whole point of the previous post related to those who defend Mike's "apostleship" by saying, "look at all the churches he's planted. That is p
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I found these comments on the Herald web page from the TPC story that they ran. TPC is getting a lot of press these days and its not the sort of press they like to see. I copied these comments from the Herald page to the forum site because they talk about the "spiritual parenting" teaching at TPC. I have not seen anyone here on this thread give any personal Testimony about their own
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QuoteTurningPointRejectQuoteForgiveness_101Hello, Braveheart I would think that they would say that the church plants would all be testimonies to P. Mikes apostlic call. Hi Forgiveness. Good to see you. Can you tell us a bit about these churches planted by the apostle Mike? How many churches? Where are they located? Average number of people attending each church?What, actually, di
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QuoteForgiveness_101Hello, Braveheart I would think that they would say that the church plants would all be testimonies to P. Mikes apostlic call. Hi Forgiveness. Good to see you. Can you tell us a bit about these churches planted by the apostle Mike? How many churches? Where are they located? Average number of people attending each church?What, actually, did Mike do to "plan
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QuoteMville04As was mention before in this forum, Mike And Cindy had met with Bill Johnson while on sebatical and has invited him to speak at TPC. Bill Johnson is an Apostle anointed under Peter Wagner who began the new Internation Coalition of Apostles movement. Peter Wagner preaches that there exsists a recognized authority for God here on earth. He discribes the authority structure begining wi
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QuoteBrokenheartedI've given this much thought and prayer since Learning point last posted. There does seem to be much confusion surrounding the apostle thing. I think perhaps, I may have identified where some of the confusion stems. Please feel free to add to my thoughts, and discuss them, debate them, etc. It is my hope that there will be discussion around this issues that may bring th
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Looks like Turning Point Church World Outreach Center in Marysville WA is in another news publication. The following is an article found in the Herald. Who would have thought that a church that once taught that people should reject their biological parents and submit themselves to the whims of "spiritual parents" assigned by the church would ever want to get permission from pare
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mville4: I think some folks may be confusing you with another youtube poster that has made several satire videos of Mike's video blog. You may want to post links to your videos so people here don't go to see the other videos and conclude they are yours. Just a suggestion.
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On a different note: This thread started October 18, 2008. It took about four months for this thread to reach 10,000 views. Something has changed in the last month. Just in one month this thread has experienced an additional 10,000 views. More and more people are taking time to read this thread. More and more people are asking questions and beginning to wonder about the teachings of TPCWOC.
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LearningPoint Thanks for your words of wisdom.
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Hello Buddy, Thank you for posting here. I would ask you to consider if your goal in posting is to discourage others from coming here and sharing their experience at Turning Point. If you are seeking to discourage others from posting here then, by all means, dont change anything. However, if you desire to help others as they seek to heal and move forward from the abuse, hurt and p
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Quotenooneofanyimportence brokenhearted I myself am never surprised by the reactions of many christians. I see leaving tp as not only a test for me but also for those still there, Ive always felt that lots of people at tp had the high school mentality of my school is better than yours, and to leave their school is an unpardonable blooper. I was amazed by how much my own identy was wrapped up in
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Welcome to the forum, W W. It is good to hear that you have found a Bible believing, Bible teaching church to fellowship with. I was struck by the dissonance of your story with the following remark of Emily Masten in a story by the Stranger. Responding to TPC being called a cult by a mother of a student who was recruited to attend a youth meeting, Emily said the following: “ is just diffe
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If you currently attend or have considered attending Turning Point Church in Skagit Valley or in Marysville you will want to ask the Pastor about several doctrines they teach. The first doctrine you will want to ask about is the doctrine of "Spiritual Covering". This doctrine is taught and practiced by Turning Point. Please take time to ask questions and research what this chu
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To those who have decided to call Turning Point Church Skagit Valley their home church: Welcome. Before you are tempted to quickly pass by this thread and write it off as rebel rousing or worse, I encourage you to take the time to do some research. May I suggest that you take the time to read through all the posts on the RLC/Radiant Life Church threads (there are several and it will require
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