Why apologize when all you where doing was telling the truth? Where you not? Like frank said I think that old Fellowship concious reared its head again in your mind and spooked you. Ive heard of the same thing from other poeple going to apologize to members of the LH, and either they ended up going back or got hurt again by the person they apologized too. I would understand if you were Lying abo
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"I will defend the church because the world needs to see both sides of this story"-Warrior4Rob Yeah, ya think? Tell that to your pastor, and tell Him to tell the truth this time! "Some churches will make you feel good, no judgment of sin, no condemnation, no committment, no evangelism, no preaching of the Gospel...others, well, the Lighthouse takes it seriously."-Warrior
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"I don't think you've been around long enough at the church to make such a generalized statement about the people who attend the Lighthouse. Do you know that there are quite a few lawyers, surgeons, pediatricians, nurses, dentists, architects, writers, network analysts, managers, and many, many other intelligent individuals who attend that church faithfully. They don't sou
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"I'm sorry to hear about your negative experiences with him... You should give the guy another chance and get to know him personally instead of making your judgments about him from others. God bless. "-Confuzed You have been nothing but a Lighthouse apoligist since you got here. I know you're just here to get info to take back to rob and friends and then comeback and pl
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Like Nitedork said we have given you more than enough to investigate...and the sad thing is I havent even scratch the surface of The rest of what traspired. If Getting beat up and bullied is your thing to keep you inline with God then stay where you are. But if you want to serve God with the liberty to question things that might make you go :shock: , Then find anouther church...fast. I am able
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"Personally, I don't appreciate all the numbers and names being thrown out there... You shouldn't have the right to plaster people's personal business on this forum. You are really upset about this whole thing aren't you?"- Confuzed What do you think Rob and Bill did to john? Except they do this On the walls of thier churches and sermons. Another thing..
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"As far as the 'bullying', how do you know that John Schmidt didn't just decide to start all over with a new young wife? Have you talked to him personally about this matter? I know that if I was in his shoes, I too, probably would have walked away from the pain and heartache of the past... Don't always assume that he got 'bullied' into leaving."-confuzed
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"rob had approved the marriage of john and alysa back in early '06. 2 CFM conference pastors confronted rob and told him that the age difference was breaking fellowship pattern and would not be tolerated."-nitedork I remeber John telling me that Rob asked How she was and has he talked to her...BEFORE JOHN EVEN TOLD HIM ABOUT HER! bring that up also confuzed. Confuzed...Ple
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"Lets call a spade a spade and call terrorists what they are cold-hearted, cowardly killers. Bible believing Christians may not be perfect and they may even be hypocritical (I know I have been) but they aren't killing people in the name of God. They may offend some people, they may hurt some people, and they may even cause people to stumble but at least they aren't plastering bits
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"Wow...I didn't know all this happened before. I've just started visiting the lighthouse after i got a flyer at the 3rd st promenade. I've actually enjoyed the sermons they preach. But I would like to know more about the division that happened in the church before i place membership there. "-Confuzed1 First off I'll be Honest with you..I think you're up t
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The Darth Vader of CFM Harold Warner, is having a Revival there in Heesperia. Usually The "Big Dogs" dont come out unless there is gonna be a big fall out or A leader is struggling. I was in that Congregation for awhile, and I remember him coming twice...Once when CFM had that fall out in 98-00 and last year...when Johns wife died. Emperor Mitchell usaully sends his apprentice "Fo
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At the same time that The Lighthouse has thier annual "Let's Pat each other on the back" session(s) this past weekend...John got married!!! So while Bill Niel and Rob told the congregation about how the saved the Hesperia church and patted each other on the back...The Man that they back stabbed and robbed...Was Broke FREE from everything that is CFM. PRAISE GOD!!! Yes Bill and Rob
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I've lived through the facts Of one rob Scribner. Ive watched this guy back stab one of of his most faithful dicyples, John. Ive listen to him lie and go back and change his story regarding his and his pack of wolves hijacking of the Hesperia Lighthouse church. This guy and the Hesperia Church as a whole KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE and can deny all they want and believe thier own lies all they
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The LightHouse IS OFFICALLY THE OUT-HOUSE!!! Just heard they are having a Bar-B-Que "In Honer" of John's wife who passed away a year ago. These are a demented people. Good way to rub it in....Lets have a Barbie Q in Honer of the Deceased wife of the pastor we ran outta here! Good one Out-House!
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Really there is no need to write anybody. God Will and IS exposing these families and thier motives, The fellowship and its leaders. One way or another The wolves are being stripped of thier sheep's clothing...for example... One of the Wolves that first claimed to back John in the beginning... But figured once a wolf Always a wolf...saw a backslider that has been away from the church a
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how do you know if He started another church? Last I heard, The LH was making it nearly impossible for him to restart?
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Rob DID NOT destroy John...But made him stronger! John is STILL serving Jesus, John Is Free from fellowship condemnation, and john is going to get remarried! How is this a destroyed man? All he lost was a building and a congregation that is so weak minded to believe anything the fellowship or these wolves tell them about John, and then turn their back on a man that poured his heart out for th
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Just here to say Wayman mitchell Is not The Main reason behind john's leaving the church. Ive seen the damage Michell causes first hand. But it was The pack of wolves in the Lighthouse that caused this.
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John Schmidt WAS ROBBED of His church. 5 Families in the Congregation had a secret meeting, That John himself was not allowed to attend, with Rob Scribner. John was going to remarry and these families did not approve who He was going to marry (atleast behind his back). then they brought up other allogations against him and the woman's family, accusing them of favoratism and taking up all th
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