See folk you can quote the Word but they do not care its the same scripture they used to hook you in the first place, you have to be sharper than that, The Word of God is sure and forever, inspired by the Holy Spirit, but hey corrupt it, make it say something it does not say, You go line by line, chapter by chapter, be a berean, those who study the word, Pray when your Father in heaven asks you t
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It is time to let it all go folk, I understand trust me, they robbed my belief system that they drilled into me, just like they did you, but they are so foolish that they believed that teaching us about Jesus would enslave us to them, it has done the opposite as your experiences after the fellowship has told you, Jesus is real, He is the king of kings, His promises are forever, He is just, He doe
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I should also add, as soon as I discovered Allen Cates embezzling from the Bullhead City Praise Chapel, I notified then head of praise chapel Larry Nevelle this information, Larry Nevelle promptly pulled my ordination papers...The corruption comes from the head down and spreads all along the leadership....
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It occurs to me, that sometimes I might come off a bit bitter, and if the truth were said, Yes, my friends, there is some bitterness, hostility and sadness, when it comes to Praise Chapel and cults in general. I find it atrocious, that there are people (religions, Pastors) in the world who start out with maybe good intentions, but somewhere, make a conscience decision to hurt and wound people for
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To Start off with, to tracicherise, the pastors daughter, don't come on here trying to defend your cult ways, this type of intimidation does not work for people who have escaped the circus of religion you live in...We hope the light bulb comes on for you some day, and that you can get free... People should be aware that New Harvest, Potters House, Praise Chapel, Victory Outreach, all sta
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I was first introduced to Praise Chapel in 1978, A man named Allen Cates had come to Chloride Arizona, (Where I was living with my family) to pioneer a praise chapel church. I wound up falling for his daughter, and being teenagers, we wound up having sex (ha ha, yes the preachers daughter) and she got pregnant. It was decided by her dad (Allen Cates and my dad) that we should get married, So I be
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There is a site that former members have began to utilize to talk about their experiences with what appears to be a mega church cult. it can be found at recoveringzealot.blogspot.com jeff
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Does anyone know anything about a fellowship of churches called Antioch International Movement of Churches based out of Waco Texas, founded by a guy named Jimmy Seibert? I think this fellowship should be watched closely and examined, From what I have read from former members blog sites, they are controlling, abusive and it appears the pastoral staff is isolated and controlling. Any info would be
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Hi Hawk, Yes I know an extensive amount of connection between potters house and praise chapel,,,The current leader of praise chapel as you know is donna neville, and mikes brother larry, larry was a huge leadership force right under mitchell, our church in kingman arizona, held the dubious distintion of being a potters house and a praise chapel, we took over the four square church while the pasto
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Hey the mouthpiece of cult chapel has shown up again...There is no need to set the record straight Jerome, We all know what the answer is...I Pastored 10 years and pioneered many places for this cult, Until I found the truth..So really,, You are the last person on here to set the record straight, We know each other..I started in pc in 1979,,,But hey keep spilling your false doctrine....your just
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Well Said Silent no more, We were there from the beginning...And good to see you, hope you are doing well... Jeff
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May I ask you a couple of questions b4u? 1. What is your affiliation with Praise Chapel? 2. Do you have an affiliation with Potters House, The Arizona Churches? You seem to be a plant from a fellowship church, and when I say fellowship church, we both know I mean P.C. Potters house or any of the other names these set of cults go by..I.E. La Puerta, The door, Grace chapel, Praise Chapel, a
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mocked and ridiculed, pc holds to ph doctrine about higher education, that it is not encoraged and to quote pc pastors, " takes away from serving God and being in the ministry"
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Frank, The Arizona church you are talking about is Praise Chapel Kingman, it was pioneered by Alan Cates who now pastors the pc bullhead city arizona church, He was outsted by his bible study leaders because of financial un-accountablilty, it was then taken over by a former ph pastor named howard pennington who was a leader and shaker in the ph cult, and some of the things you said about pc k
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jason, You use words like offended, resent, you defend pc like it is the Kingdom of God itself, I resent and am offended, by: 1. you choose to defend the fellowship of the ring of neville 2. that you dont have enough intestinal fortitude to see things for what they really are 3. that your feelings and belief' are more important than the hurting folk on here who have been victims of
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So, Its been a while since I have been on here, and I see, the same old stuff is still going on with Praise Chapel, I am so greatful that I have nothing to do with this cult any longer, I see the cookie cutter process of making (so called pastors) is still in effect, Folk, these p c pastors that are responding on here are only parrots repeating the same old lies that started with mike nevelle, th
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This is interesting, Larry Huch, now a big time word of faith cult preacher, has been reported as saying Jesus Christ is not the only begotten son of God. See the above posted link. As you know Larry is an ex pastor and leader of the christian cult the potters house fellowship, Things that make you believe the apple dont far too fall from its start huh, kinda makes you wonder what praise
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This is a great group to belong to if you are an ex member of the fellowship, thinking about leaving the fellowship or have serious doubts about the fellowship. It was originally intended for ex potters house people, but being praise chapel there is really no difference. I have a mission, and that is too see these fellowships closed down and out of business, so that they cannot make any mo
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Here is a useful checklist to determne if your church is cultish or has cultish tendencies: If you cannot answer each question honestly or without reservation, your church may have a problem: The following checklist of cultic tendencies by Charles Lesser was published in the October, 1991 Spiritual Counterfeits Project Newsletter. They are typical of a number of aberrational cultic groups and
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It is offical, I have received an e mail from the General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God, Jim Bradford.He advised me that they are in fact ordaining and creditialing praise chapel pastors, he says they are aware of the cutl allegations against praise chapel, but their sytem allows them to pick and choose. Things that make you go what the f..k. If you lie in bed with a dog with fleas,
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you have to love this folks, anybody other than me feeling a little safer now? ha ha, Take good care, and we must always be watchful of the enemy, Jeff Watkins Kingman Kowoby
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here is the e mail sent back from the supertendent of the assemblies of God, Thank God: Dear Jeff, Thank you for your note concerning Praise Chapel International. We have an official church by the name of Praise Chapel Assembly of God located in Akron, OH. From what our records indicate there is no connection, other than in name, to the organization you cited. The current pastor has n
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E mail sent tonight by me to the General Superintendent of the Assemblies of God, in regards to their association and ordination of praise chapel pastors. GeneralSuperintendent@ag.org <GeneralSuperintendent@ag.org>; Dear Sir, Could you p
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Check it out Praise Chapel Assembly of God, I found at least two of them, This one is in Greensboro N.C. This one is in Akron Ohio Praise Chapel Assembly Of God. Own this Business? Suggest Correction (330) 745-4107 1204 McIntosh Ave Akron, OH 44314 41.0342 -81.5719 oh here's another one, This one is in Tucson Arizona Praise Chapel Assembly of God 3353 N Houghton R
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I also find it very disturbing about some information I came across on over the net while further researching praise chapel. Apparently The Assemblies Of God churches are now taking praise chapel pastors, ordaining them and letting them have their buildings to use. I thought the assemblies were smarter than this and more transparent. Now I am starting to think The Assemblies Of God should als
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Yes they are a cult, they fall right in with the same doctrines as Praise Chapel, Potters House, Victory Chapels, La Puerta, New Harvest, The Door, The Arizona Fellowship, We all ran together for years, I can tell you they are carbon copies of the above listed fellowships. I pastored for years, right beside this fellowship, we all ran together, spoke the same language and had the same views an
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This article I find absolutely enlightning and absoultely riduculous all at the same time, by an ex potters house pastors wife, here husband and her now pastor a praise chapel, and her statement throughout the article is this: praise chapel is nothing like the potters house. : here is the link. I estimate that 20 to 50 percent of the pastors in praise chapel are ex potters house pastors, who
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I thought y'all might find this link interesting, it is about the shepherding movement, and mentions by name praise chapel and larry neville, it list churches and fellowships not to be involved with, in the list is praise chapel, who the author calls an offshoot of potters house. Silentnomore, he also talks about the pyramid demonic scam that you have been talking about. It would be worth al
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What you guys have to remember is we were spoon fed a total boatload of pure, unadulterated bullshit, they played on our fears, hopes, dreams and emotions. This is a well oiled machine, with leaders who have had years to perfect the art of deception. This has nothing to do with the Gospel, Christ, God or the kingdom of Heaven. It has everything to do with power, control, deceptioin and greed. The
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Just keep going guys, stay up beat and positive, dont allow them to steal anymore of your energy. They will never change, they like the power and control. Just keep telling the truth about them, You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. I appreciate you folks. God bless and hang in their, hold your heads up high jeff watkins
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