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10 years ago
nccg_concern
This site has, at Jannicke's request, been moved to a subsection of the www.nccg.info web site. The earlier link is no longer active. Direct link is here:
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
10 years ago
nccg_concern
Quotezealforyahwehif by "involved" you mean I'm a "member" or a "fringe member". I'm on friendly terms with the group .... Since then, though, I have written a number of posts, some of which I have posted directly to their Ning group, on my blog there. The pattern of a friendly, internet-based relationship with the cult's leadership, plus participat
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
10 years ago
nccg_concern
The original poster in this thread had left the cult's influence for a period of time, as the original post describes. Later, he became involved again after being re-exposed to the cult's internet forum.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
nccg_concern
Jannicke Larsen became a part of the NCCG cult at the young age of 11 due to her family joining it. "Betrothed" to Warren at 14 and "married" at 15 in all senses of the word, she lived as one of Warren's wives for the next 14 years. She left the cult at age 29, and has now made a web site and written a short version of her story. It can be read here: <--- main
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
nccg_concern
FYI, this cult is now proselytising itself on the internet using new names. Those names include "Messianic Evangelicals", "One House Josephite Messianic Isreal" and "Union of Two House Messianic Israelites and Evangelicals". This represents yet one more name change in a long string of name changes throughout this cult's 20 year history. A list of names for these
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
nccg_concern
MPD/DID ministry (everyone has MPD according to them), Spiritual Covering, fear used to keep core members involved, the whole deal you describe sounds very much like NCCG yes, almost mistakeable for it by those keywords. Exposing a cult isn't an act of vengence, it is an act of kindness and mercy toward those who might come upon them and then be steered clear by the extra information y
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
nccg_concern
Quoteabigail1977Yes nccg, reading thru the forums a few days ago, i came across your website regarding that strange, strange church with similaritiesto mine (its staggering really)---in Sweden. How did you find about about that Church and what are you so adamant on exposing them? I mean all cults need to be exposed, but you have a whole website on them. Any family members in there? My experien
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
nccg_concern
I read the thread you linked, and the methods you describe are similar to a small cult I have a web page about, at . I am interested in whatever web site or exposure effort you might make in the future regarding that group you were involved in, and I would probably provide a link to it on my site in a new section I have coming up in the future. Realizing that other groups use the same techniqu
Forum: Destructive Churches
13 years ago
nccg_concern
QuotesarahnbPosted: 11-27-2006 10:16 AM Post subject: NCCG_CONCERN AND DEREK RUMPLER I don't even know where to start really, I just feel strongly that what concern is doing is getting out of hand. But........ I do not agree with what is happening now against nccg. I give credit to "concern" for being concerned and I think a lot of hard work has gone into investigating
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
nccg_concern
The Google ranking algorithms are not the only ones out there. I am finding that Microsoft's search engine ( ) is doing a great job in ranking sites by the correct relevancy. You might experiment with that one and as well. I know that Google is the main one these days, but search engine trends tend to be driven by how well they work, so it can be worth seeing how the searches do in those.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
nccg_concern
Hey there Gussurvival, It's great news that you're out. I can second your observation that the male "clients" can get practically ignored compared with the women. I watched in DFD once when a male came in and presented very specific things that were geared directly toward Warren's "ministry", IE: thinking demons were inside of him and talking to him, and m
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
nccg_concern
This was a creative and cute way to explain a lot of cult concepts, i thought It is a video called "Mind Control Made Easy: or How to Become a Cult Leader". Its topics are pretty broad, therefore not all of it applies to every single destructive cult. --NCCG_Concern
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
nccg_concern
Quotesarahnbactually, I am not happy with you, happy you are free but I don't think you actually feel remorse for your part. You were just upset because you felt betrayed! you are only upset because you nearly dies and your hero failed in his prophecy. If you had not got sick you would still be there supporting Chris 100%. Chris told me about you Derek, he told me about how you were jelou
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
nccg_concern
On August 8, 2006, I received email from the person who has posted in this thread as the nickname "sarahnb". Within a few emails, the person had indicated that she was an internet-located female member of the NCCG cult who was being groomed to be one of Warren's live-in wives in Hillringsberg, Sweden. She kept contacting me for what would have functioned as help and psychological s
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
nccg_concern
I felt the same way. I put a cleaned-up version of it at the bottom of the website I authored about a cult (and credited it correctly with a link back to this post, which is the best I can think to do atm). --NCCG_Concern
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
nccg_concern
Derek Rumpler was one of the few male fringe members whose relationship with NCCG was developing toward core membership. He and his wife of the time had made several trips to the NCCG compound in Sweden, and the most recent one was this past Spring. I don't believe he was fully integrated as a core member, but he may have been as close as the leader's behavior (Christopher C. Warren) wi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
nccg_concern
A private investigator might be helpful in finding out more about the cult, especially since you still know your daughter's physical location.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
How balanced was the movie as presented?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
This is happening right now and will be ongoing for the next few months.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
I like what this page does: is a good page too, obviously. Same as this: . You could make a web site in which you talk about what you learned about the group. Such a web site can help people who are starting to think on their own and starting to look around, and it's something that can always be there for them to return to later. The free hosting on www.geocities.com is a great s
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
QuoteBrad69 He also wrote: If you think you can attend such gatherings and not be affected, you are probably wrong. Yes indeed, that sounds entirely accurate. An interesting point about this applies to infiltration kind of cult research, though: affected vs. effected, if you get my drift. I have some experience in this. Someone who happens to have the right set of mental characteristi
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
14 years ago
nccg_concern
QuoteCultEduModIf it takes you a while to make a post, sometimes the system can log you out. To be safe, always make a copy of your post before you post it. This happens on other systems as well, sometimes it is just a browser error. I've been getting around the short timeout this board has by hitting preview regularly while I'm writing, so it keeps me logged in.
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
14 years ago
nccg_concern
It might be an idea to document the things that have brought you to this suspicion. There are certainly cases of other large church organizations that are arranged such that destructiveness can build within the individual churches (UPC comes to mind).
Forum: Destructive Churches
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Mary Alice Crapo had much the same thing to say as you did, Barabara. In the event that the founder/leader has himself been programmed, sometimes it can be done (and she's participated in a successful effort to help one, in fact). However, in the event of a true narcissist cult founder, it is impossible. I don't think she minds my posting this here, I'll show her the post and de
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Yeah you know... I don't think I'm going to give this much more thought. If someone else has input, lets hear it, but otherwise... blah. I have a straight window directly into some of the live workings of a cult I have been researching (and it's been extremely educational, eh..). I'm reading recent announcements made by the founder/leader of the cult, and noting this balone
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Quotebarabaratoo well developed a defense system Yeah. I sense something similar to that: the exact dynamics of the situation that would be perpetuated and re-verified over and over again for the cult founder, as the person lived out their years in their self-created delusion, seems like it would work precisely against the things that would be needed to fix the person. The huge amount of denial
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Are there any examples of charismatic type cult founders who have been helped or perhaps been reformed? What are the issues involved? Can it be done or is it almost universally accepted as Mission Impossible? I found this: but he was a senior leader, not the founder. I think I can see a number of things that would make any such reformation be extremely challenging if not impossible in som
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Hey Brad, The link you posted in another thread, was a great article about brainwashing. I'm putting it in this thread too. I googled and found the author's website, and it's actually a bit creepy. But that doesn't impact the fact that the text article above seems to have some great explanations about altered states and hypnosis as they are used in brainwashing, and so
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
14 years ago
nccg_concern
Quotekath I am on a sexual assault survivors forum. I'm discovering that this particular forum fosters and propogates the belief in 'alters' and 'recovered memories' or 'satanic ritual abuse.' This is REALLY sounding familiar here. I have been watching a cult that uses the concept of Satanists and "covens" and SRA and MPD and Theophostic to do i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
nccg_concern
QuotebarabaraBrainwashing, like confidence games, always involves a series of lies. In my opinion, the person being converted often has a sense of this on some level, but is seduced by the bait into gradually surrendering their critical thinking. ( I doubt that this will be a popular opinion, but in my experience there is always some form of bait that appears attractive to prospective converts.)
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
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