Hi Michael, I don't believe that I know either yourself or Jay, but in your disucussion you've addressed, with incredible articulation, a number of issues which had irritated me in Jay's testimonies from earlier posts. The community should not be white-washed. It creates suffering, operates on cruelty, information control and in some cases violence... the majority of its membe
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I had the pleasure of staying with this group for 2 months back in 2004 at their St. Augustine Campus. The "medication" they refer to is combination of a lot of things but has nothing do with medical prescriptions. This group belongs on Cult Watch because they meddle with peoples lives and often do more harm then good. They took me in when I had no where to go.; however, with any fre
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And here is a priest from Franciscan University with principles. I actually new him well. How do otherwise intelligent people get to this point. "To start off the day, we went to the john paul museum. then father kirby told us storys about the history of the polish archbishops in warsaw and krakow. this story was interresting and awesome. next we headed by bus to auchwitz. we had a gu
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This group is still going strong and has expanded to several new "houses" . It's a pretty simple formula, Families Donate, the Community buys undeveloped land on the cheap. They then send in addicts to beat back the shrubs which lay the framework for campus's. With more campus's they gather more donations and more members... Then wealthy parents pass their children of
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Jay I consider "Community Cenacolo" to be something NEGATIVE and that's why I follow this board closely. Your statement: "I live with a family that is blind to God and believes in hate. For all of Cenacolo's difficulties, there is no comparison between the things that went on there and the absolute insanity that exists here." In addition to casting judgment
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LOL. Just laughing at the irony that all the supporters are catching up with with each other at the "Cult Watch" message board.
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Michael, I'm sorry for your relapse and wish you and your family the best. I would not wish the disease of addiction on anybody. I personally went into cardiac arrest several weeks before joining community. At the time it was a much needed rest and haven. I believe that Our Lady Of Hope would be a wonderful establishment if it extended its services only that far. After leaving commun
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Jay, I don't know what year you attended OLH but we had a novitiate with a similar background to you who also had an addict brother. Truthfully I am terrible with names so CHEERS regardless. The times I spent working the garden and walking rosaries was beneficial and being apart from society was invaluable. It was a great break from what seemed like "overwhelming stresses" a
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Jay, I had a hard time keeping up with your last post ,either the thorazine is wearing off or perhaps I'm just not floating in the holy spirit anymore :) . Either way I do relate to the statement "I was told to go home. Good thing too, as a family emergency came just several weeks later that might have ended up with a family member dead had I not been there." In the commun
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I think it took me at least 3 years to get over the community (in fact I'm probably still getting over it as I feel the need to visit this board from time to time :) ). When I entered I was all out of answers and my life was in shambles. The community offered to take care of me by eliminating the need for individual thought and any worries over basic sustenance. This was a nice, and prob
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I'm glad I stumbled upon this listing as I've tried to bring attention to this organization for several years now. About 3 or 4 times a year I visit the Florida Comunita Cenacolo website and am amazed to see the pictures of the same people who were there during my visit almost 5 years ago. These were young 20 -24 yo men seeking treatment for drug addiction. Many of them were less ser
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Catholic Drug Rehabilitaion Minimun 3 yr commitment however financial ties keep members tied indefinatly. No contact with family, news, tv, mail. Three 5 minute showers (lake water) per week. Grow own food (Providence). Always required to be with another "Brother". Dissenters dig holes for up to seven days or are left pennyless half way between Jaksonville and St. Augustine on H
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