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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
Whoa! You mentioned the 100K that was given by the congregation to build an orphanage... but where is this money? I forgot all about that, it has been a few years. I wonder who kept that cash and why the orphans are not being cared for? I am excited that so much information has been coming out, it has completely encouraged me and confirmed much of what I already knew. Thanks Ryan.
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
Braveheart: I know what you mean. Pastor Wally was being very hospitable to Tony and RLC visitors and Tony disdained Wally and treated him like dirt, because Tony had to have all of the control. This issue of CONTROL is, in my opinion, the big one. He will not allow anyone to think for themselves! Nicole, it is awesome to hear from you! The last time I talked to you was when you visited our apart
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
I can agree with this, here's an example: After being taught the Word in so many lessons over the years, I now struggle with trying to "relearn" everything again. In other words, trying to understand the Word of God for what it is, not what it is manipulated to be. The problem is that there were alot of teachings that were actually solid and good (think most sunday mornings). Bu
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
WAJ: First of all - who's providing cunninghamisms? Please explain. I asked a simple question which was not answered: is this church telling its members and leaders to give their babies away? I have already told you that I have no "yes" or "no" answer for this situation, as I am not the one to have experienced it and I am only responsible for myself. I cannot determine
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
WAJ: I have now counted (4) people that agree with you: "I just need to hear from others that agree it is contrary to scripture so that I know I am not missing something." Its ironic that this issue is clouding the MANY other issues at hand... remember, there are 25 pages before you first posed that question. Now that you got people to agree with you, you should take the next step.
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
Right now is when Australians sleep...
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
It's just too bad that no one from RLC will reply on here so that you can call them out. Where is TC and BM? And all the others as well? Yeah its called isogesis. It is certainly dangerous to take the scripture out of its context to suit your own needs. That is correct. However, Doc Love did not use it out of context. He made the point that Jesus did not do everything the same way over an
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
I think within the sarcasm is the obvious point that whatajoke continues to make unfair assumptions and accusations. He has said it all... referring to Love and myself as nobodies in the church (well that doesnt even make sense considering we are not even around). And the constant statements about our being "spies" and "liars and deceivers" and "covoto cult members".
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
I think its good to warn people about stuff. But I also know that with this sarcasm and humor there is also some very solid points made, that should also be taken seriously.
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
Well apparently we have now walked for about 26 pages and have really arrived no where… I’ll tell you this much for sure: You reap whatever you sow. If it’s true, which it is, then all of it will work out in the end. Perhaps the shady folk will be exposed in full. Or perhaps they might even change their hearts and be honest. Or maybe it will end with humiliation. I dunno. God deals with
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15 years ago
SpeakTruth
Hello Mr. Braveheart! What are you talking about? Have you even read this thread? By the way, it's Joe. Perhaps you know me after all.
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
I agree. It would not be a good idea to pick and choose what to read. You should read this thing from the beginning... it has been ugly. It is also a good idea to not take everything at face-value. There are some clear exaggerations and there are also some clear cover-ups. Some posters "defend" without truly knowing what is actually happening in the background. There is some good, a
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
The many problems existing here could have been long gone and forgotten by now, had they been admitted and corrected at the time. Instead, being hidden, they have become EXPOSED, and so the crap hits the fan. Now the consequences unfold. Still, some refuse to admit wrong and move on. I've actually heard people refer to this as "God is testing us"... in reality its just God'
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
I will address half the problem right now... There are some Christian leaders who would claim that they are a pastors or apostles, or great wizards from Kalamazoo for all I care, yet their lives lived out prove the contrary. If one claims to be such a man of God, then why would they be so untouchable? Why would one be required to speak to 3 different assistants in order to just leave a message
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Dr. Love, I will reply to you. I know you, but you also know me. Also, I have not been at the building we call RLC for so long that I cannot possibly verify when you last attended that place. Therefore, the last time I have seen you there must have been many months ago. And is Tony your pastor? I would definitely say no. When have you last spoken with him? Must not be your leader then…
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
RRMod, please feel free to edit my posts as necessary... I can't seem to figure out what I can and cannot post.
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Was reference to the church building previously being a "bowling alley" really so offensive? I was merely throwing it out there. Many times I attempt to make a point by using irony/humor as a pen. Get it... because pens make a point... nevermind. I think you may be confused, Tedmeister. I don't recall sending a "personal attack" to anyone, either. Also, what do you
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Somite: You should see my face when I am replying to messages here. I am not frowning, Im usually laughing quite hard. I think the last time I got on here and read an update I actually ended up rolling over on the ground laughing! It's not that I think that "hardship" people are going through is funny, but getting on here and watching two polar opposite "sides" defend
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Love Doctor, you have brought laughter to me. I immediately imagined hearing the first sentence in a Strongbad voice. If only there were a special font to signify the Trogdorisms. You bring up a good point though. It seems as though this "EMO" is in... Politics are also in. Apparently thats why all these people cant deal with Radiant Life Church, Inc. (R). Wait, maybe (D). I dunno,
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Whew... you mean the dust is cleared? Dr. Love, I believe your question would be answered clearly in an annual business meeting. I think they breakdown how much someone gets paid from the church. But it raises another question: if I make 50K a year and tithe 5K, couldnt I just raise my pay to a higher amount, making the tithe have no sacrifice in my budget? In other words, couldnt I shelter and a
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
There is a guy that was a genuine friend of mine. He has been gone from that place for quite some time. This is how screwed up it is: I call him up after he moved on and he had said something to the effect of "I refuse to talk to you at this point because you are part of that place". Man I felt like garbage at that point because I was fed a lie why he left in the first place. In any cas
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
In reference to EmeraldMyst on 9/11/07: 1. I would be concerned for her too. I don't know enough about the situation and the post is vague enough for me to not even know what your talking about. 2. If someone is duping people into getting a house for personal profit, then they should have, oh, maybe one or two fingers cut off and fed to the dogs. Especially if its a teacher... after al
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Yes I believe it was Sunset Lanes! They could have at least kept a lane open...
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
I believe God is real. Church should be real... that is, it ought to be what it says it is, at least. The complication happens when people stop the work of God, in the name of God, and call it "church". In other words, people get in the way. How typical to take something beautiful and destroy it... we see it everyday. Authority attempts to control the underlings, and of course, it is su
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
The Eye of Privacy (or Private-Eye): Where have you disappeared to? You are quite the joke. One moment, here you are... prying for information and masquerading as some helpful person. And when confronted, what do you do? You disappear as though your hand were caught in a cookie jar. Nice. I have granted your request to speak, and yet, there is no response. What have you actually accomplished? And
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Wow. How I am currently cracking up in boisterous laughter, in response to the poking of irony. Good one, Aaron. I especially liked the way that the link takes you directly to the accompanying post. Classic. Also, to Transportationarent: How have your efforts to save people from the madness worked out so far? Was it nice gathering them at the Wilton Ranch?
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
In a robotic voice: "I have been brainwashed, I am at his control, I must submit, I am leaking oil now, oh no, did someone flip the power switch, I ammmm....tuuuurnnned...oooooffffffff....." Wow, I must be so brainwashed. Have you read nothing that I have posted? If only you knew how I lived you would not be so hasty in your statements. Do you know why I do not go to SOMA? Be
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
I recently read an article that said "If you live within the radius of a block of people that you know, you must be a cult". Interesting article. Profound, really.
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16 years ago
SpeakTruth
Question to all: Why are there 80-220 page views per day, yet very little response? Who is viewing this forum so frequently...? Just wondering... since there are no responses. Is this a soap-opera for some of you? Why did it calm down suddenly when I showed up on scene? What ever happened to this "private-eye" character? Wow, I am so impressed by the boldness of some. Some seem
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