SoI's campaign of spam may have backfired : :lol:
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Here is the blog link refered to in the my last post.
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QuoteGARDENING,RV,RIVER,LANDSCAPING,PONDS,FALL,GOAT,ACRE,FAL L,DAIRY,ORGANIC THE MEDITATION RETREAT CENTER in Sacramento is five minutes from the American River and trails. It has two wooded acres of organic vegetable gardens, waterfalls and koi ponds, Gardening, landscaping, maintenance, dairy goat care, cheese and soap making, yoga and meditation programs, t’ai chi and chi kung classes. Peop
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It's great to see three new people joinng the discussion :D doesnt seem like it will end anytime soon. That is very interesting Crass. This is the letter which is under Sai Speaks on www.cultofbutler.com - at least all those devotees who wanted it preserved got their wish :wink: Los Angeles 15th June, 1972 Laguna Beach My Dear Siddha Svarupananda, Please accept my b
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The whole affair with SoI trying to bribe me has officially reached hilarious proportions with me getting an email this morning from the Brendoid this morning reminding me that he still has his restraining order (the piece of paper that says a big brave devotee of the Ninjai tribe is scared of a small woman who he doesn't even lie to say has threatened him or even gone near him.) Serious
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From the book Windows to the Spiritual World about artist Puskar, born Matthew Goldman, on January 1 and 1947. QuotePuskar met a Young American spiritual teacher named “Sai” who had developed quite a following ON the islands and began living with them in an ashram. “In those surroundings my life became regulated and peaceful. Each of us would get up very early and bathe and then together chant
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Hi Zelig, We do speculate on some points which is why we put forward sugguestions as to what we consider to be possible and state it as such. The process of making sugguestions and others putting forward their opinions and knowledge, the exchange on this board, is what is helping to document and expose SoI and stimulate memories. With regard to being a tennis pro Mike does mention this on h
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Quotezelig you jogged my memory. Yes, there was a school. There was talk about letting local kids go to the school - that's why they adopted the Hawaiian name. I think Mike wanted this, but CB didn't. And CB would not give a dime to the school. That is correct. He did not value kids and now blames parents for raising "cats and dogs"! Such and asshole! :evil: And Mik
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In some scriptures it was 16108 wives - all princesses and that each had ten sons and they all had ten sons (and apparently none of them were purple :lol:) Sri Suka said: Having heard that the demon Naraka had been killed and that Sri Krishna had singly married girls, the sage Narada felt eager to see how the Lord lived with them (all). He said unto himself: Oh, How wonderful it was that th
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Chriskcon.com didn't work for me either until I used the disk clean up, I cleared out the history, cookies and deleted the files then restarted the computer and now it works everytime. I tested it on an outside computer also so both definately are up. Very sorry about the inconvenience.
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Speaking about kids being rascals despite the regulations inflicted erm..directed towards sex life what could be made of this?? Krishna's Son Mocks the Sages Three very great sages once came to Lord Krishna’s palace in Dwaraka. Krishna was resting. When he was informed of their arrival, he said, Please tell them that I shall be there in a short while. In the meantime, let them
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QuotezeligThey were neither "hippie"-surfer types nor ISKCON types at all. They seemed, well, normal. Maybe that is why Hawaii voted for him. Seems like a sincere and ordinary guy. :lol: :twisted: When were these Chinese names adopted? Do you see CB moving into China or marketing to the Chinese public now? New markets? Or is this old news? Mike mentioned having a surfing a
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Thanks Dassi for the info on Mike. It is very difficult (but not impossible) to prove identities with initiated names, but we are still looking into this. Considering Krishna Kartha's age it is a possibility that he was involved with ISKCON and later became a follower of Chris. It does seem unlikely that involvement in Sulochana's death would be mentioned without drawing attention t
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Karma is alledgedly one of the sciences which SoI and KC devotees in general have no knowledge of how it is suppossed to work. As I have lamented before there is no means to learn Vedic science and certainly no guru who even attempts to teach them. Followers of Chris Butler teach and know more about chinese sciences than they do about Vedic, and this is not a great deal either from what I hav
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Gerald Michael Gabbard AKA Gerald Gabbard AKA Mike Gerald Gabbard AKA Michael Gabbard AKA Mike Gabbard AKA Krishna Katha Dasa AKA Krishna Katha das AKA Krishna Katha Prabhu Born in American Samoa 1948 (same age as Chris) and moved to Hawaii in 1949. Married Carol Gabbard (devahuti dasi) around 1967. Allegedly went to Choctawhatchee High School Florida 1964-65. There is a Krishna Katha D
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Quotejust-googlingI also cannot access the message board at the chrisKcon site! It brings up a CNN link every time. :?: Alledgedly ASM wanted to communicate with me through RKd although anything has yet to be refuted and eventhough I made clear that I would not communicate any further with him unless the domain name was returned and received an assurance that it would be it wasn't. I re
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Hi Atheist, Those are cia case numbers. Ti-leaf productions, Science of Identity, Healthy's and Sunset Studios (former name of Ninjai Gang studios) were all investigated and the files were requested by Jeanie Bishop, Sunil Khemaney and someone named Mr. Lay in what appears to be the month after the investigations. [209.85.135.104] The Science of Liberty Foundation is probably a typo
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Please pay your huble respects to.... Self-realised Grand Yoga Master Siddhaswarupacharya Bai Zhong Yan ...or otherwise known as Chris. :wink: This is the latest update to Butler's AKAs on the site although the chinese/cantonese translator has failed to reveal exactly what Bai Zhong Yan means. Possibly "all-pervading dictator" - maybe someone can help?
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Googling in answer to your earlier question one of the chosen one's Mike Gabbard's sons is also reportedly a thief and a rascal and the other one is gay. The holier than thou family here has two daughters that have children without husbnds one of which doesnt even know who the fathers of her offspring are and there was an incident in Queensland where the son of one family of disciple
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*sighs* it took a while for ANewDay das' post to come up so I didnt reply until now. For one I am not the moderator on the Chriskcon forum and didnt backlist anyone and for two this person whose claims of superior intelligence are sharply contradicted by their atrocious spelling ability (which obviously enough is really just a poorly executed attempt to conceal their identity) fails to r
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RR has been down a lot lately. I missed you Rick :cry: When I can I will figure out what I have seen other cult sites doing since there seems to be so much interest in attacking them :wink: and make it on site that anyone can burn all the files onto a CD. I recently found out that libraries take these to add to their collections so pretty much anyone that wants to spend $1 to buy a blank C
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The site has never actually been down, just the domain name has been disjointed. There are a lot of search engine links which have still been getting people thare and with the new domain name there has been no problems which I have been made aware of. Traffic actually more than doubled between the first and second month and is on target to excel on last months unique visitors. You may need to jus
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How does it account for the great Chris Butler to have been born as the next in disciplic succession when his parents were karmis??? I recently had a lengthy conversation with RKd to answer his questions about why I do what I do and part of the answer was because I consider my own life proof that they program doesn't work and I know that it is not just me. All of these rules and regulatio
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A letter from Chris Butler himself now available for all to see at : www.cultofbutler.com :( Refers to his followers as his "so-called" disciples :o Gives instructions on how sex life should be regulated :evil: Condemns those who have sex for pleasure to attracting a materialistic soul to be their child :x Refers to the children of his followers as "cats and dogs"
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MK-Ultra Infiltration and Creation of Cults : This is a brief eye opener. I have written a little about MK Ultra mind control experiments by the CIA before. This is not a conspiracy theory but proven fact although many documents were destroyed so that the full extent of activities will almost certainly never be known. What is known is shocking and in my research I have just recently starte
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Here are a couple of videos which I found very interesting and revealing. Yuri Bezmenov on KGB interest in yoga, brainwashing Gods of the New Age Awesome almost 2 hour long video "An Eye Opening Film of the Yoga, Meditation, Eastern Mysticism, Psychological Theraphy, Self Help, Mind Control and much more...Explores it's birth, its invasion and its effects on Western so
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We now have the domain name www.cultofbutler.com Eventhough SoI returned ownership of the Chriskcon domain name after it was stolen due to technical issues with the reset it has not been pointing in the right direction. Well back to work. Look out for the letter from Chris Butler onsite where he condones beating women and taking second wives. We are also starting a new section of the sit
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QuotejogravesThere does seem to be quite a bit of information about various involved parties popping up on a google search these days. That's one of the marvelous things about the internet. Low profile is a lot harder to achieve. Better to get your own slant out there where an interested party might find it first. I dont know about "better" tho - how much intelligence is one lik
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I know that you dont want it, but we are going to have it anyway. Posting it here makes it official - I am going to war with Science of Identity - no white flags no oh well there is one thing that is holding me to them and I really want to know the truth. I dont need to know the truth because I have just found out. I am sure that everyone who has been following my tale of hearache would l
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The name www.chriskcon.com has been sold to a ficticious person and made to point at a stalking website, so it is pretty obvious who is responsible. He wishes - who has been calling me up for the past couple of weeks? It is about time that I got myself a lawyer to see about filing for harrassment and defamation myself. Also everyone please be aware of anyone who is contacting you with regard t
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