madshus: I don't think you understood my post. I never took Landmark and was not apologizing for them or for the signees. I was just explaining that everyone who signs it is not stupid -- they are pressured by people they love and respect.
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Since they're all in Houston, there is most likely a connection.
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While poking around I found this site: which sounds like an expose, but it's really a weird LE support site. The domain name is registered by Ellyn Jones and Karl Lehenbauer, execs at Supperconnect in Houston, a tech company that also hosts the site. Ellyn and Karl also serve on the board of Cherish our Children, whose "Founder and Chairman" is Juli Kamin – President, J
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People sign it because 1.) they generally don't read fine print and 2.) someone they care about is pressuring them to do so. I was also a lucky one--I found this site and the support and was given the courage to buck before I went. My weekend was paid for and I had a date, but I *truly* believed my company was *wrong* for pushing it down my throat and I took all the courage I had to stand
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I heard through a source at a network that one of the top magazine shows (20/20 or Nightline or one of those) allegedly has someone "inside" LE and are planning a big expose for "sweeps week". Apparently this person has become pretty high in the rank-n-file. I can't wait!
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Lucie -- welcome to the forum (pardon that word). I'm sorry you had to go through the LE programs and that it's been difficult for you. Even those without previous mental issues have experienced the same thing, so DO NOT feel that it is your fault! I'm curious: did you answer Landmark's initial questionnaire honestly? Did you tell them you had previously had a mental
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In Laura's column today: Quote To those readers who read last week's column and inferred that I have been captured by a cult: I can assure you I'm fine. I researched the Landmark Forum thoroughly before attending and decided to check it out anyway. I had fun, and I remain in full possession of my skeptical mind. To those of you who oppose the seminar and think I have piqued othe
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Well.. since I started this thread: I was unsure of the tone of Laura's article. I was AMAZED that the publisher would let this article go through as a real "experience" piece, since it was scattered and reeked of the brainwashing/advertising for the program. So I posted this thread to get others' opinions on if it was "real" or not. Laura: I'm not questi
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My employer tried to push it on me, and I was the first of the management team to outright say NO. Needless to say, I don't work at that company anymore--they made it so uncomfortable that I left. Your wife's firm is creating a Landmark-based office, and either you're in or you're out. If your wife stays a "believer", your marriage is in serious trouble--lik
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In the "Land of Gurus" documentary, you hear a doctor admitting to recruiting his patience. What a breach of professionalism! I'm sure that is their aim with the professionals, especially those in "service" -- to use their power to recruit. It's extremely frightening to think there are cultie police officers out there!! However, they are trained to sniff out
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When people write over email, they assume privacy. That's why I don't feel comfortable posting the publisher's reply. I also wrote Ms. Marble herself, but have not heard back from her.
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I wrote the publisher and pointed them to this site's LE info. They said they would look into it, it looks very "disturbing" to them and even hinted thay may have to do an "intervention" with the columnist!
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skeptic.. you say "She professed compassion and slammed me, in the same breath. " That is a typcial abuse tactic: I love you . In fact, a lot of the Landmark verbal strategy has its base in the abuse cycle and bullying. If you complain or question them, YOU'RE WRONG! There is a cycle of abuse/acceptance... so at the time of acceptance you are so grateful for it, you'l
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Since Landmark is using the Training Manual as the "copyright issue" why doesn't someone just edit that part out and post post post????
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It's already been removed :(
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You think this is real or tongue in cheek?
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QuotegrubForgive my cynicism but you have it backwards: your education is complete when they say it's complete. I was just going to say -- it's never complete if you still have $$$$ in your bank account. Suddenly there will be an ADVANCED ADVANCED ULTRA-TRANSFORMATION EXCLUSIVE TO THE HIGHEST OF ENLIGHTENED series. Only $1999.00 !!
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As my mother always says "You can't be rational with someone who is irrational." My belief is that you, dzigntank, have been been brainwashed by LE. Don't worry, many have been and you are not alone. Someday you will realize it. Perhaps sent here by Landmark for dispute purposes? Do they have seeders here?? Hmmm... I see some crabgrass growing.
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How do they get by with the term 'VOLUNTEER' for a FOR-profit organization?? I don't get that. I can see 'intern' but even interns have laws associated with them, don't they?
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I think before you bash any movie, you should at least see it, so you know what you are talking about. Otherwise, it's just hearsay. I did not perceive it as an apologist's film. It's actually quite frightening by the end and would be a great deterrant. Ending with pictures of the dead and the ex-members talking about how devastating it is to hold your child in your hands whi
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Anyone catch the first episode of The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman IFC, Fridays at 11, Eastern and Pacific times; 10, Central time. ??? Apparently it has a LANDMARK FORUM spoof... NY Times review states: "The first episode was all about the ghoulish-looking Sally Kellerman (who played herself) and her involvement with a culty success seminar that seems based on the
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I saw this movie at the Los Angeles Film Festival, and highly recommend it to those interested in the psychology of cults and cult awareness: Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple It is a documentary by one of the survivors and consists of historical footage, interviews and interesting lesser-known facts about how the temple was started and why people were drawn to it in the first
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I got this email from my sister this morning. She said one of her co-workers had sent it to a bunch of people at their work. "Landmark" had stuck in her head since she had heard me speak of it (and not in a good way) so she forwarded this to me and said "Is this the program you were talking about?" WORD of MOUTH is IMPORTANT!! That is why LE gets their drones to spread t
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I was told that taking the course was "100% my choice" and then a couple weeks later the boss kept yelling at me "WE REALLY WANT YOU TO GO. WE REALLY WANT YOU TO GO!" Bad stuff, man.. What do you see in this woman? Do you have a "rescue" racket ;) that keeps you drawn to Landmarkians?? Dump her.. maybe then she'll get the hint.
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Update.. a year later: My non-willingness to "play their game" or go to LME was the turning point in my career in this company. Suddenly, I was asked to share my job, then they hired people to work for me that made twice as much as I did -- many manipulative tactics to get me to separate from them. And guess what? I did! And it was the best decision I ever made. I can't
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ConcernedFriend, Like all cults, the inductee will eventually "shun" and separate from those that do not adopt the same philosophy. I was told by my boss that Landmark isn't a cult because they ENCOURAGE you to be closer with your friends and family. Yeah, only if your friends and family agree with the philosophy, go to the sessions and become Forum-bots. If you resist it, yo
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Yes, I heard it is the Sunday session that reels them in. Heard that from several sources. Probably by that time you've had limited sleep for 2 days straight. How do they 'feed on controversy'? I've noticed that they have an answer for every objection.. is that what you mean? I think there must be a department in the organization that concentrates on that ;)
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Smart, actually (for them) -- captive audience, stressed (coming to or from work), holiday time=depression. Just shows how desperate they are if they have to go to a subway to recruit. What, people aren't just showing up at your door and asking you to clear their thetans? I wonder why.
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Well, luckily this site exists-- when my boss asked me to go, I did my research on the internet and found more negative than positive. What was most helpful was the play-by-play accounts of what goes on. Of course, Boss wouldn't tell me.. he said "You have to experience it for yourself." And when I told him about all the negative documentation he said "Yes, that exists wi
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So sorry, ex-thetan. I see the Scientology building here in Hollywood and the 'free personality tests' they hawk on the street-- the unassuming tourists they reel-in, being curious because of the celebs. And all the desperate wanna-bes here who just want to belong. L.A. is just a hotbed of 'potentials', it's sad Luckily I do not know or love anyone in this horrid c
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