The rules will be passed next March, 2005. Hsuchi Story from BBC NEWS: China rules on religion 'relaxed' Published: 2004/12/19 12:42:57 GMT China has announced new rules on religious groups which it says will end discrimination on grounds of belief. The state-run Xinhua news agency says the rules are designed to keep up with "rapid socio-economic development
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MOL can be linked to OSHO…headache.. What if one can be allowed to open their eyes freely during each MOL exercise and not to be harassed? I would assume the whole "miracle" experience would be replaced by something else. With our eyes open, we may not be so “intensive” and we won’t fully discharge our emotions. Close eye scenario: I don’t know how many times I heard: “close y
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I don't know who are at the top of LE organization. But from what I read, LE seems to use extensive terminologies from Scientology. This is what I find: Type (eos_chp_03) in Google, you should see a PDF file written by L.Ron Hubbard. The article is called "Demons of the mind". Maybe that is what the top people of LGATs are thinking: to mess up with your mind. For them
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I study Confucius’ language from I-Ching. Confucius interpreted each line of code in the book using day-to-day language of his time. For I-Ching, one could study its language like computer programming. Zero represents yin (negative, dark,…etc.) and one represents yang (positive, light, …etc.). The origin of yin-yang came from this book. Each line of code in I-Ching is represented by
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Hi, I wish you the best. Hsuchi
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Hi, Ellen: Here is my analysis: “At LGAT, you have all the choices but you can only choose one - the one with agreement with your instructor or hypnotizer. Your responsibility is to complete the course, attend the next one, and have breakthrough. You will discover that you’re actually a victim if and only if you find out the cause of hypnotization and how it has abused you mentally and physi
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In Chinese word, one word means a lot. For instance, the word "yong" means the following from my dictionary: 1) linear & 2) continuous Whenever a word is attached to "yong", the meaning of "yong" would then be explained by either (1) or (2). Here are several phrases started with "yong": a. forever b. long day c. soul immortality d.
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ha ha ha...
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I got a greeting card last week from my LGAT instructor (or guru) - she still tried to control me!! Basically she said that she was flying around the world these days. She was very busy visiting European countries. The first paragraph was reasonable. But somewhere in the second paragraph, everything turned bizarre. She began to describe how she felt when her airplane started descending. Th
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Here is the last conversation I had with LGAT leaders: "Why do we learn throughout our life? It is because we want to be ready mentally and physically when problems come. We face problems everyday in our life. Since the time we went to school, we're gradually equipped with the knowledge we need to know in order to face issues and problems when we grow up. It is why we don't
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Daniel, I hope you can begin your recovery starting from this moment. I would strongly urge you be caution for your next course. As I posted before, I found the drug, Lariam, used to prevent malaria has the same side effect as for one may feel after a LGAT course. If you search Lariam in google, you shall find that some people can have just only one or two doses and experience year long
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If our feelings for personal experiences vary differently, do we reason differently as well? A good hot spring bath is a good hot spring bath anywhere. I may experience such a hot bath when I was young and no more. Others may experience such hot bath right now somewhere in the other part of the globe. Yes, everyone has different experiences but in a context that we reason quite similar.
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Hi, corboy, I do appreciate your every post. Here is one link that I found when I tried to look for (Dorpat Psychology) in Google. It is called "The Creation of Psychopharmacology". Perhaps people can take a look at the article and understand how mind and body are connected. While I am doing the recovery, I come across many issues over the past eight months. So I just
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Hi, Are you hinting some kind of dissociative identify disorder? Perhaps it would be a topic to look into for people who affected by LGAT, directly or indirectly. I had a dinner with a practice MD the other day. He noticed that a relative of mine, sometimes, talked to herself for no reason. Her action was not obvious but we both noticed that. I also noticed that she automatically talk
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This thought came up to me after the weekend: What is one plus one equaled to? Do we know the true answer? Or are we subjected to ask someone else about the answer? Is there imaginary number (like "i") involved in this calculation? Do engineers calculate it differently? Are there some other meanings behind this? Is it a trick question? When do we learn how to add? Does "plus&
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Instead of battered wife\abusive relationship, I would like to give ruined project\abusive relationship in a corporate environment. Normally people take projects assigned to them, good or bad. One tends to choose projects best fit their backgrounds and personalities. But not every outcome of the project would turn out the way what people hope, so what happened next? I would guess that dependi
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Recently I saw two opera performances: "The Mad Scene from Lucia di Lammermoor" and "Dialogues des carmelites" in a wine show and in a local opera theater respectively. What interested me was, during both shows, actresses gave audiences looks of "thousand yard stare" just when they performed both mad scenes. I was certain that there were no such looks during other
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Hi, After I left LGAT, people around me refused to think that it was the workshop that gave me heart pain. People began to say things like my heart pain was caused by my dog, my drinking problem, and my inability to handle pressure. They would say that, with so many people attending the workshop, why am I the only one causing troubles. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I went to the hospital because,
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Hi, Last month I received a phone call from my dad. He told to spend US$70K on a company's stock. He told me that he had a insight information, the company is making next generation LCD display, growth is immanent, and the stock is soon going to be listed on public stock exchange. The phone call lasted only a minute and he sound strange because there's no reasoning or logic. He n
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Hi, An organization like LGAT won't single out a person, I think, unless there is "huge" benefits involved. Maybe you should think what benefits her if she continues assaulting you and makes you go all the way to court. I was constantly bombarded with phone calls even after I had a heart surgery after LGAT workshop early this year. They were "ruthless". They want t
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I think the main content of LGAT workshop is designed to provoke one's maximum anger. I was asked to shout and scream as much as I could everyday throughout the session. Not only were I instructed to scream "I hate you" repeatedly for a long period of time with my eye closed, but were asked to get involved in a violent situation during an act where the acting father battered the
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The questionaire i signed was written in Chinese and on paper. I found no trace of a copy of questionaire available at that particular LGAT website nowaday. But I am certain that, even in Chinese, it is similar to those forms posted in the forum, particularly focused on mental & physical health problem. The person who introduced me to the workshop had doubts about the effectiveness of
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ok. I apologize for not givig a clear indication of my question. Here it is: Do you agree that LGATs, by aquiring personal information, are ultimately praticing or implementing eugenics? Or is it just for the purpose of storing in their database as future reference? Hsuchi
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While i was reading James Watson's "DNA" and Darwin's "Decent of Man", I came to a thought that whether any connection existed between the theory of eugenics and practices in LGAT sessions (like the one I attended in Asia). So I typed (Eugenics Scientology) on Google search engine. This is what I found: The site tells how scientology requested members to sub
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From the conclusion of "What is Life" by ERWIN SCHRODINGER; first published 1944. "Are we not inclining to much greater nonsense, if in discarding their gross superstitions we retain their naive idea of plurality of souls, but 'remedy' it by declaring the souls to be perishable, to be annihilated with the respective bodies? ...Even in that what seems to be a plurality
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Hi, Oz I thank SarahL for her reply on OSHO overbreathing in my post on LGAT topic. Apparently I was suffered from Hyperventilation after attending a LGAT workshop. Here is a direct quote from Margaret Singer's "Cults in our Midst", P.128-129. "A former Rajneesh (Osho) follower demonstrated for me what he termed Hoo (Chinese word for breath exhale) meditation.... I as
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Here is my study path to get myself mentally out of "human potential" (or LGAT) course. I hope it could be helpful to someone who attended the forum and suffered. 1) Perform a detail personal heath examination at any hospital or family doctor you trust. I was getting a high CPK value after my blood test on my last day of LGAT. 2) Read Bible for at least a week immediately after th
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For the past six months, I didn't discuss my LGAT experience with anybody in my surroundings. After I left the hospital, I kept getting phone calls and instructions from someone close to me. They rather not talk about LGAT, instead, they asked me to do this and that, like throwing away my pet. I guess phone calls stopped due to my resistance. I am doing alright at this moment but sitting
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