and what was this self-concept you were mistaken to believe to be you? Was it some concept - I'm perfect, or I'm bad, or I'm good, and then living life by improving yourself, your self-concept ? or it was just some sense of self? And now, how do you know you exist, if you are not little self anymore? How can you function in the world, make money, go to work, so on, if you are not
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how did you felt this deep psychological suffering ? Were you shivering from fear or crying from loss, or ? Do you remember ?
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zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- as the mind can be quiet without awareness > being pointed on itself. Hi:) Can you tell if one can realize The Self by just practicing mindfulness and quieting it's mind? Or there must be quieting mind plus being aware of quiet mind? And if so, why awareness is, behind the mind, aware of the mind if mind is qu
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Those things can be heard in video - pearls on the pig. Also there is video when he complains about how much he suffered loss of his dog, when he lie down on the floor for week or something. This story is totally made up. A guy from a good home, who never know any suffering, made up some stories for his spiritual career. - the video is called - loss of the buddha dog. Beside I caught him on
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Well, One women attended his satsang and ask about her efforts to try make herself a better person, I guess, there was something about improving herself, he answer her, that - he is not interested with it - he said to her, she can improve her personlaity, but it is like dressing pig with pearls, it doesn't make it look better if pig is squealing. The other time, it was about my personal
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Do not recommend him. But if you want spend 1000$ for retreat and find out some judgments about yourself, go ahead. I wouldn't pay him anything. He is not going to point you to the truth, he will point you to the qualities he doesn't like about your personality. True teacher would make you feel peaceful, like Ramana Maharishi. Unfortunetly Adyashanti only mess you up and cause mor
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came back to you zizlz, because I was contemplating now, compassion. In the past I believed love is pity. When I saw someone sad, closed down, not liked by most, isolated, I was thinking how to come closer, and how to save such a one. For most of my life I had huge pain body. I was feeling everyone around me, and I was very unhappy within, and pretending all is well outside, really I could
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zizlz Wrote: > > I hope Tolle is right that our present way of > relating to thought is a transient phase in our > evolution, and that we evolve into a post-thought > state. That doesn't mean we no longer think but > that we're no longer deluded by thought _________________________________ I I agree with you. Maybe E Tolle is not thinking, is peace itsel
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That's fine, it's interesting topic. It might be true what you said about shame and guilt. In my family (in those times, I can observe it) little children are being taught shame if they cannot do poo on their own, or eat by themselves, or do something properly in the opinion of "adults" - it is like, their ability to function is build on shame and of course fear - do not g
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Activity can happen in the now, in the present moment. I can slice tomatoes, banana, I can eat, ride a bike, dance, or clean house, I wanted to say also, to have sex, but sex is not approved by enlightened beings. You may eat, dance, clean, go to work, but sex is not required(a little irony) and be very present. In fact realization would be, this is not "me" who is active, activity is h
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shamrock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gaja Wrote: > > - he is attached to Sarah/Krishnabai. When she > > left the table, he was scared/confused/lost (as > if > > mummy left forever because child was naughty) > > You know his personal history, right? ___________________________________________ when I wrote this, I forge
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Constantin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thankfully, I Have left The sect for good! MS, the > cronies, sycafants, deluded lost children, > mindless, blind, arrogant, hypocritical, greedy, > egoistic, > power hungry, fake, lazy, circle jerking, > charlatans can all stay in their spiritual game, > stinking Monte Shitaja. As we would sa
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zizlz, I know, sometimes I feel I'm free of it, but when my period is coming, all hurt feelings, all bad memories appear in my consciousness and I'm so angry I want to hurt him too. I just thought, his spies are on this page, so he might get a little harmed or at least feel some guilt about what he done, but I do not think so, he has so many new people to abuse. Too busy with his missio
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Not really.If I was ok, I wouldn't end up, being traumatized by sect. I just remember when mooji with his whole sect were singing/screaming to me "inside the Heart we are never apart"or "we love you, we love you !!!"- as response to my (in their imagination)need to be in relationship with mooji. They thought I want to be as special as Krishnabai, and live with mooji o
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If Amma Tanya run after her "beloved once" teacher, at the MS the sect with mooji will surround her and they will laugh at her,and clap their hands,and cream how stupid and naive she is to believe mooji may want to be with someone like her. that he prefer to be around Krishnabai every day, and travel with her, eat with her breakfast and hold only her in his arms. Amma Tanya can only be
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I also had very bad spiritual experiences, but because I trusted wrong person - Guru. He used my trust to abuse me, constantly. I was easy target as I had no other support in life. In the past I was obssessed with mediatation and having no thought. E.T teaches that we should stop our minds and as a goal, to have no thoughts in our minds, but the very thing that try to stop the mind - is mind
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He tries to win Amma Tanya White back. She started the subject about goddess. He is going to exchange his girlfriend Krishnabai for Amma Tanya now. He wants Amma Tanya to be his Goddess.
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Hello, I would like to say, you better do not go for any satsangs, or spiritual meetings. I'm progressing in my meditation...and I noticed that my behavior is sometimes due to what some guru, or teacher said to me, even years ago. For ex. I'm much more focused on here and now. I'm appreciating that I'm alive, I am less scared, or fear. Sometimes I have no thoughts going
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Lately I realize mooji is just a stranger. I was interested with his private life as if this was my business but it is not. He may live whatever he likes, and he may have intimate relationships with Krishnabai if she doesn't mind (she doesn't as he made her mindless). I decided, to be very happy, to not get involve with private life of strangers, and live my own dream. To have amazin
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Lately spiritual people show much of compassion to black people, and stand against racism. Moo use to say, we should live life as we didn't have any rights. I suppose the same rule is about black people. ? Because I do not want situation, where white people has no right for respect, fairness, and dignity, but the whole world will fight for black people rights. If we are the same, and we ar
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Nowadays, spirituality represents only old playboys and businessmen who play strange games with people. I'm greatly missing Ramana Maharishi. He was so pure, when I think about Ramana, I think of the purest nature. Whenever I'm alone in the nature and I feel true happiness, the kind of happiness of belonging, and I feel love, I know this is the same what is Maharishi.
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> > Like an audio book, a cow or parrot is capable of > speaking the truth. And an audio book should not > cost much. You pay online, download and it does > not relieve you of your life savings. And you > don't have to slave your youth away. > > This forum exists because the audio book has > upgraded itself and now claims that it can jump > over the
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Heythere1010101 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Gaja, I feel this same way as well, I was deep > into chasing after teachers, books, taking > everything as gospel for about as many years as > you have. > When I left sahaja, I had absolutely no interest > st in any of these things anymore. > I think I got too deep into that world, wi
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Hej guys, I have to say this. For something like 3, or 4 weeks, I'm not interested with spirituality, and famous teachers opinions, sentences anymore, and... I noticed, I have so much more energy for living, I'm not depressed anymore ! I feel so much better. I meditate still, if some awful memory comes back to me, I just feel it, I'm noticing the room I'm in, and past is com
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I've heard those things are for very rich people, people on the page Guruphiliac were writing that, the closest people, who live with Moo, are coming from very rich houses, that their parents are wealthy - but I do not know. I've heard, those rich kids were starting running the sect, and they invited Moo, to live there and join business. If you are pure consciousness, with pure hear
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And literally, he killed some bird, to protect his fish. He is so silly. Do you think he might start drink something alcoholic? His life is so odd. Remember when Kathy Byron said, she doesn't care if people dies, because anyway, most of them is miserable, and life they are having is not worth of living. But you know what, when I see life of gurus, and some enlightened people, I am
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he say things like this, to manipulate with people's subconscious minds. Most of the people will subconsciously look at the clock, at 11, and they will think Moo has some power. He is not, he is getting people to take their attention to little things. He is programming people. He doesn't really changed. I remember when he said "you are like a turtle, you will never get to th
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He likes say things that would price him. He has to say complements to himself, to feel better lol Perhaps he is writing to himself letters, to worship himself. Anyway, for me, this is easy to not treat him seriously anymore. I just do not believe with anything what he ever said. I learned to ignore him. He disappeared and means nothing to me. Although I can see, he is projecting. In truth
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He totally doesn't care about what I feel, about how much harm happened to me as a consequence of his unconsciousness. He literally doesn't care if I was dead there on the street, whatever happened to me this is fine to him. It is obvious to me, that I was and I'm totally not important to him and my life is also. I would treated better a dog, than he treated me. Well I g
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You know what hurts me the most. I do not give any importance about his money, lands, whatever he has, I do not care much about stuff. I do not care if he became God, and has all of this worship of people. It has no meaning to me. What is hurting me, is that he abused me. And I know he abused much more people. And he act as if nothing happened, he is still happy, and doesn't care. Yo
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