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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Thanks for that Corboy. It's a good link . Incidentally, I went on an academic field trip to a Soka Gakkai Center once. They knew why we were there - for research, but they still tried to recruit us, lol. They were SUPER nice. SUPER happy looking. To John Laz - John Safran talked about the cult of Lance Armstrong on his radio show - how he was surrounded by enablers and apologists, wh
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
You got it CP. As soon as the journalist from the Mackay Tele contacted UM with questions about the story her office was inundated with the usual barrage of lovebombing from UM. I've been contacted by families in Mackay seriously concerned about their loved one's involvement with UM and despairing over the standard anxious behaviours and personality changes exhibited by followers.
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Treefern, for what it's worth, I'll post the names of anyone who threatens your husband on my blog. Their addresses too. I've had it with esoteric 'self-loving' which is a euphemism for hating everyone and everything else. If you're up to it, you're both very welcome to post your stories on or I can do it in interview form, like with Y. I can obscure lo
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
I thought I'd post a list of locations of Universal Medicine Meditation groups and the first names of their contacts. The info is available on the UM main site with contact details. It gives an idea of the spread, and there were locations here I wasn't aware of, particularly in North America. I wondered why I was getting so many hits on my blog from there. AUSTRALIA NSW: Tilba Til
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Nice work CP. Notice the use of the words 'feel' and 'feeling' the truth. Of course they have to feel for Serge's truth because he's so savagely impaired their ability to think. I wonder what it takes for them to 'feel' the truth of having their ovaries palpated and their sexual histories scrutinized in the name of 'love', or being told th
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
And thanks John Lazarus, as a woman I find your responses to Rod's post very fair. I might add that the difficulties in relationships between the sexes are another loaded and difficult area Serge extravagantly exploits. Knowing its a source of tension and division within society, Serge is working it to enhance his recruitment - nothing more. If he was an authentic healer and if Rod H
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Yup, move over Germaine Greer, SergeProp presents Rod Harvey. My response to his feminist post here: The quoted post above with his regurgitation of Sergisms is also a nice example of something I wrote about in this thought-reform post It's an example of 'doctrine over person' where adherence to Sergism is regarded as more important than protecting the health and dignity of
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Thanks for the report Morpheus. Interesting how the UM Propaganda Machine didn't report THAT version of events. And for all the words expended on their love blogs about how they feel violated and have had their freedom to choose infringed by TV cameras, none of them have mentioned a word about the sleazy ovarian reading I was subjected to, or negligent abuse of patients, or cartel like b
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
It's from the Goonellabah gazette, penned by Leonardo Pythagoras Bailey.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Thanks rrmoderator for that extremely interesting post on lawsuits. We're confident Australian law and regulatory authorities are on our side. We're receiving advice.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuoteNofooliam Good on ya VenusDarkly for your blog on UM- more transparency is needed and your blog provides much needed info to the public. If you get hammered by one of UM's lawyers, please let us know on this forum, as many anti-UM blogs have mysteriously disappeared never to be seen again..... My blog won't be going anywhere. We can back up everything we're saying. They won
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Thanks everyone! We'll get there. The blog is getting a lot of hits, and I would love you to comment or add a post if you have time. Jasmin, you're welcome to write in German on . It may help some other German speakers (and you) if you talk about your experience. We may even find a volunteer among our readers to translate your words into English for the English speakers. I have add
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuoteWillow.SunshineIts hard when you are trying to do the best for yourself. There are many things to consider and usually persons who are searching feel a sense of relief when they find something like UM. However some, including myself, get to the point where you ask yourself what really is it that I am agreeing to? If you express this however you are instantly judged, made to feel that y
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
We have a new blog up everyone. "Universal Medicine Accountability". It's all explained over there. Please visit, read and hang out, and I'm planning to update a lot. Your comments and personal accounts are welcome! A lot of you have written amazing, heartfelt and important posts here, which are now a little difficult to locate. It'd be brilliant if any of you
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Thanks for the links Herbert.
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuotetreefernThanks VD but no courage needed in being honest and certainly no courage needed in wanting to help anyone else who may be really ill not getting the correct and trained professional help needed. I'm really worried about this. Do you have an estimation of how many practitioners are involved? In particular, how many doctors? What it amounts to is a coterie of irresponsible p
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Quotetreefern VD from my personal experience the UMers network, they ONLY refer patients back and forth between each other, in the Byron/Lismore area they ONLY go to UMer doctors/dentists/counsellors/etc/etc. There is a HUGE recruitment program going on, any time anyone at my husbands work isn't well/has a problem the scurrilous little work colleagues of my husband are there on the spot with
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
I meant to ask in response to Treefern's post. Just putting this out there for anyone to answer. How many Esoteric Healing practitioners are there in the greater Byron Lismore area? Roughly? Are they just the ones working at the UM clinics, or do they also operate in their own allied/complementary health clinics? Do they have special practitioner only meetings? If so, how often? Are th
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Honestly you guys I don't know how you read all of that insane unintelligible tripe Serge writes. I can't do more than I few lines before my brain turns to fondue. To make matters worse, I started reading the student blogs. Katrin in Germany: One of the most important things I have learnt from Serge’s presentations is that to love myself and to take care of myself is not selfish,
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Quotetreefern It seems like such a long time ago that I first posted on this site, but my initial reason for doing so was to alert the public to the dangers of Universal Medicine and their 'talk' especially and most importantly concerning their health. I hope more people take your lead. It really is a public service (unlike the activities of UM practitioners). It troubles me though th
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Oh MacReady, stop making so much sense! :-)
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
And this chestnut from an anonymous Apologist -- Vicky Mach III probably. (They all look the same after a while): Our tendency to blame others and the freedom responsibility brings — September 22, 2012 by Anonymous Accepting responsibility, being that our choices shape our lives, has become such a distant notion for many, that to return to it may feel like a very strenuous exercise; though it
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
The latest from the UM Propaganda Machine: Mainstream medicos and Universal Medicine— September 20, 2012 by Victoria Lister, MBus(Philanthropy&NpSt), Brisbane, Australia I find it curious that the Courier Mail has chosen to highlight the relationships Universal Medicine enjoys with the many respected medical practitioners who refer their clients to Universal Medicine practitioners for compl
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
lifetruetome, I forgot to mention the most obvious matter, UM's high profitability and how it relates to Serge's BS. lol...SB=BS...:-) Whether Serge believes his own bullshit by now doesn't matter. His bullshit is now officially an industry. A highly profitable one at that. The closest business model is Scientology, where hapless followers fork out more and more $ chasing higher an
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuotelifetruetomeDoes anyone here think Serge will reinvent UM a bit. Just like politics they look at the polls and change policies. Do you think Serge will do that to keep the business running, or does he believe truely in what he is selling. Umm I wonder. He's always reinventing. Probably at it this minute. First, sanitizing his website of references to Esoteric Breast Massage and som
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Welcome Willow.Sunshine and thanks for adding your detailed and thoughtful post. I will respond more but if I continue keeping Serge's sleeping hours I might start to look like him. :-0 Please keep posting and feel free to PM any of us too. :-)
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuotelifetruetomeThanks VenusDarkly (I refuse to call you VD!!:)) I wrote a long reply but deleted it by mistake. Wil write more later. Just call me Venus, lol. And yah, I've done that. I've started right click copying my posts now before I post them, so I can repaste if they get lost. A Mac thing perhaps.
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
Quotelifetruetome There are no bumps in this road for this woman so she must feel loving and gentle all the time?. The only problem would be is if she wants to do it differently then the way Serge or UM says. Then her belief system and how she feels might not be congruent. As long as this woman and all the other women, following Serge, never feel like having spontaneous sex or actually being s
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuotecorboyRobert S. Epstein in his book Keeping Boundaries:The Nature and Function of Therapeutic Boundaries (1994) writes on page 18: 'The therapist's role is that of a fiduciary (FIDUCIARY DUTY - An obligation to act in the best interest of another party. In the case of therapy, that other party is the patient – not Serge Benhayon.VD) (Frank and Frank 1991);(R.I.Simon 1987).
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11 years ago
VenusDarkly
QuotecorboyConcerning Breast Massage Friends..some interesting stuff about body chemistry here. Esoteric Breast Massage is not just for laughs. It may foster emotional bonding with the masseuse and possibly with the the maternal face of Mona Lisa if that image is prominent in the treatment room and any other UM symbols lying about. . Breast massage and nipple stimulation, whether by a nur
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