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4 years ago
zizlz
I don't know about black magic, but if you want to look at underlying energetic principles at work in why people get hooked to m's videos, here's some thoughts about it, for what it's worth: People are looking for meaning and for liberation from suffering and from the dreariness of ordinary life. This yearning is shared among many people, it's a collective energetic dy
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
zizlz
klaklaklak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So his words which ARE powerful are black magic, > he’s a wordsmith and master of the dark arts? I don't know what you mean, his words are those of a talented manipulator. BTW you mentioned "crazy wisdom," that's just a nonsense term for egomaniacs who may or may not have had some awak
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4 years ago
zizlz
klaklaklak Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyway however credible > that is , I know Mooji is in a very free state, a > lot of what’s grown around him is probably pretty > Weird and he doesn’t stop it Not very credible. Sounds like you're still drinking the Kool Aid. Mooji behaves like a narcissist actively procuring and protecting his na
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5 years ago
zizlz
I heard from a traditional Advaita Vedanta teacher that lately he's been getting emails from people asking for advice because they feel they have been led astray by Mooji. I'm glad to hear that people are waking up from the Mooji-spell, and finding their way to the original Vedanta teachings which have been bastardized by Mooji.
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5 years ago
zizlz
Wow Swissalyst, that's a very insightful take on U.G.! QuoteWhat U.G. is good for as a teacher however is to cut through the pie-eyed BS that constitutes much of the spiritual "industry." Agreed. Small doses of U.G. can be an antidote against the airy-fairy enlightenment myth as portrayed by the likes of Mooji and Osho.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
Quotecorboy To get where ET is, you need ego, and you need a large team of people skilled in marketing, PR and SEO...search engine optimization. Sure, everyone has an ego, don't they? Doesn't necessarily mean their actions are egotistical. Tolle may also be driven (at least in part) by a belief that his message will change the world for the better. That's at least the impression
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5 years ago
zizlz
A bit more about the misconceptions that Eckhart Tolle spreads: Tolle used to suffer from severe anxiety and depression. One day he had a moment of especially deep crisis. He was ready to end his life. He kept thinking (I'm paraphrasing): "I can't live with myself anymore." But then, he suddenly wondered: "Who is this self that can't live with myself? Do I have tw
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5 years ago
zizlz
Hi Ime223, You are good as you are. Smoking or not, you're good. "Having an ego" or not, you're good. And everyone has an ego. Even Eckhart Tolle has an ego. He still responds to his name. He still knows in which body's mouth he needs to put the food he eats. He may have had a shift of perspective that allows him to recognize that he is not only the body-mind, but that
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5 years ago
zizlz
One last post and then I'm done with the Mooji topic for the time being. I know I got a bit ranty but it's just that only now I'm really starting to see how much of a fake Mooji is. He's a really great actor. Like some say Donald Trump is the poor man's idea of what a rich man is like, Mooji is the spiritual seeker's idea of what an enlightened person is like. I w
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5 years ago
zizlz
> Thank you so much ziziz for your reply, i will do > that next time i will post Usually it won't be necessary. Only certain characters will trigger the error, not sure which characters though.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
Just an observation: in Mooji's "important message" video there are a few strong clues for everyone to see that Mooji is quite out of touch with reality and is the opposite of humble. A few of the things he says: "This is Moojibaba here." The -ji suffix means "respected". "Baba" means "wise old man". So he says: "This is respect
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5 years ago
zizlz
Hi Valma, I've had the same error. The problem turned out to be that I typed text in an editor which formats it as UTF8. Then I pasted the text in here but this forum only accepts Latin character encoding. The solution for me was to first paste the text into an online UTF8 to Latin converter (link below), and then copy-paste the output here.
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5 years ago
zizlz
2cents Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As one who has recently awakened from the > Mooji/Guru/satsang/ trance, I feel compelled to > check out everything that's arising and run it > through my own 'truth-meter'. > Although I truly appreciate Ganga Tarot's videos > in support of the unfolding Mooji saga, being a > ve
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
QuoteI have watched the documentary movie at Netflix: HoleHell, I recommended for everybody, *Holy Hell. Excellent recommendation! Another interesting cult documentary on Netflix is Wild Wild Country, about Osho/Rajneesh. There's an undeniable similarity in the vibe you get from the members of those cults and some of the hardcore Mooji devotees. It's the same sort of fake bliss they
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5 years ago
zizlz
Here's some person's opinion about the Mooji kerfuffle: He makes some interesting points regarding the shortcomings of Mooji's teachings and his shortcomings in fulfilling his duties as a "guru". Regarding the posts implying that this thread is about trying to "topple" Mooji: I don't think that's what this is about. This forum isn't some sor
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
This is the old Mooji, back in 2007, whom I'm grateful to for his pointings: Back then he seemed to embody what he spoke about. I get the sense he was experiencing the bliss of recognizing a dimension of self and reality that transcends the personal. Here's present day Mooji: I get the sense that nowadays he's speaking mostly from memory instead of experience. What has c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
QuoteOkay, so I don't want to be an inmate in his prison. But how did he transmit those amazing, ecstatic, mind-blowing, heart-blowing, soul-blowing, experiences of samadhi to me--and to Andre and hundreds of others? That is the $64,000 question. This is a strange thing. In the West we're not familiar with this phenomenon. In India it's known as shaktipat. I've experienced i
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5 years ago
zizlz
I'm reading James Swartz's book "The essence of enlightenment: Vedanta, the science of consciousness" which is an introduction to traditional Advaita Vedanta. The chapter "A qualified teacher" is very pertinent to Mooji. Here's two quotes from the chapter: QuoteEnlightenment has no meaning apart from how you live. It is quite amazing in this day and age that
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5 years ago
zizlz
Another cringe-worthy Mooji video: His disciples sing to him "Mooji you're the answer, master you're the way." Honestly I'm starting to feel sorry for Mooji having to endure terrible music like this. Mooji, if you're reading this: It's time for you to wake up! You may have been brain damaged from too much criminally bad music but there's still hope.
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5 years ago
zizlz
The deleted video can still be found here:
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5 years ago
zizlz
Really looks like a narcissist's wet dream, that video. I can't imagine a sane person accepting being treated like that.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
zizlz
Quotebubbaboy The whole investment in a progressive path goes on feeding the story of 'me' attaining something. IMO neo-advaitins argue against their own misunderstanding of what a progressive path is. You already are awareness, Brahman, or however you want to call it. So you can not become it. But you can unentangle the mistaken identification with the 'me'. This is don
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5 years ago
zizlz
Bubbaboy, I recommend you look into traditional Advaita Vedanta. You say "The truth is that nonduel teachings do not make logical sense" but the truth is they make perfect logical sense when you get the whole teaching (advaita vedanta) instead of an incomplete teaching (neo-advaita). Advaita Vedanta also teaches how to fully integrate the shift of perspective that is awakening so that i
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5 years ago
zizlz
I agree, Sahara71. That's the problem with Neo-Advaita. They took some parts from Advaita Vedanta but left out other (crucial) parts, so the Neo-Advaita teaching is incomplete and doesn't make sense. To quote a relevant part of James Swartz's critique of Neo-Advaita: QuoteThis teaching causes a problem because it does not take experience into account. So you either have to deny
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6 years ago
zizlz
I'll try to explain why this is my experience. As long as there's an object of meditation, such as the breath or a mantra, there's the subject-object separation and therefore there's the illusion of the separate self. But when you follow the pointers of Advaita and meditatively enquire into the subject itself, the subject-object separation disappears at thus the separate self
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6 years ago
zizlz
>It is propaganda from the neo-advaita circuit that you have heard and are repeating. No I'm just speaking from personal experience. Sorry if it offends your beliefs.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 years ago
zizlz
I think what jbrev01, the moderator of the Mooji subreddit, wrote in response to the post about his censorship is typical of the brainwashing that's going on in the cult: Quotejbrev01 [..]If you really want to reap the benefit and the clarity of his pointing, stop caring about his personal life or the little dramas that occur at Monte Sahaja. Again, all of it has NOTHING to do with the point
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6 years ago
zizlz
Meanwhile on https://reddit.com/r/Mooji the moderator keeps deleting everything even remotely critical of Mooji or the cult surrounding him. Recently someone made a post addressing this censorship, and of course that post was deleted by the moderator as well. Here's an archived snapshot of it: http://archive.is/oSvzo
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