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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteMacReadyHad a thought recently: Serge claims that we were never meant to exist in physical bodies on Earth. In his exact words, our physical manifestation is "an experiment...a foray that was never meant to happen." If the Benhayon family all believe this, then why the obsession with acquiring material wealth? Perhaps more importantly, why on earth did Michael and Emmalee decide to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotecorboyA good film to see is Kumare. Recently released. A fellow intentionally impersonated a guru and got a following. And there is a something called the Dr Fox effect. If you speak gibberish but in a very confident manner, it can impress people who show up expecting something. Key thing is, how can one learn from people without mythologizing them. In the satsang scene, e
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotelifetruetomeThanks CP You made me laugh out loud. I love what you wrote, its all so true and so obvious that this whole UM thread is almost a joke. I feel like I am on some very funny UK sitcom where they take the mickey out of extreme religious/cult groups. I really can't get my head around the students love and admiration of Serge. I have mentioned before on this thread tha
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotelifetruetomeHappy 2013 There must be two Serge's out there. This is on one of the bizarre Serge love blogs, by a student who has obviously never read one of Serge's books or been told there are evil entities flying around that will attach to you if you drink or take drugs or hang out with pranic people. This just sounds like someone with blinkers on to me and who can't
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotecorboyCheck this website, Rickross.com on the website Alexa.com Fair amount of view traffic coming in from Australia. Interesting. He's quite popular is old Serge but maybe not in the way he was dreaming.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteMacReadyVenus Darkly's latest piece at the Universal Medicine Accountability blog is yet another brilliant deconstruction of Benhayon's self-serving, hypocritical poison: Interesting to note that he's not-so subtly suggesting people bequeath funds to Universal Medicine in their wills. Someone posted some questions here along these lines awhile back, but at the tine I h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteworriedwifeHoping everyones year has started often better than the last one..... Here's praying to the god of logic and common sense! Meantime take a look at this for how easily someones perceptions can be changed via a process of confusion, de-anchoring and re-anchoring using well known techniques similar to the ones employed by the subject of our combined misery. DERRN BROWN M
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
Little Xmas gift for us pranic folk. In the last 2 weeks I have heard of 3 people coming out of the cult by themselves. From all accounts 'committed students' and practitioners too. Good to hear. I spoke to one who said "OMG I cant believe I thought all that stuff was real. It's bizarre! I feel really embarrassed at how I was going on and what I was thinking" It
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteMacReadyQuoteHerbertKane178QuotetreefernReceived a text this morning from an ex-UMer. (yes it does happen and with even more frequency these days I hear) I would like to share it with you; Have you seen the new UM format? Looks like "the One" is trying (ha!) to make UM more legit? Bit too coincidental for me in light of the RMRC lies. SB taught us to be "honest".
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteHerbertKane178Don't forget Corboy's tireless research and huge knowledge of all things cult related, CP. Has certainly given me an education in how these things work. Hi Herb, that goes without saying. It is axiomatic. Corboy has been the glue that's stuck it together at times, and the signposts when we were wandering. There's certainly no fame to be gained in that jo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotelifetruetomeHey guys Has anyone heard of anyone leaving UM since all the hardwork of say Venus and ConcernedPartner etc. Is the forum and blog working??? I certainly hope so Yes, they are leaving. A few cult counsel ling services in the area and elsewhere are picking up members on the way out. I am also aware of several that have now left of their own accord. Some were deep in. ( S
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
It appears as if a group of well meaning Universal Medicine members have formed an independent advocacy group to tackle the issue of people on forums, ie me and the other two dozen concerned citizens and partners who have been voicing concerns about Universal Medicine. We know they had a think tank a few months back, and we know they decided to attack the 'problem' head on. But I
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
Even cult busters need time off for Xmas ;-) I had a chat with someone the other day who told me they had seen ACA and also had a friend dying of cancer who saw someone at Unimed HQ once a week. (good choice) and it is interesting to report their perceptions. Generally most people that have seen ACA either think it is a cult and Serge is a complete fraud, or they think the show is a beat up
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotetreefernSorry meant to say; ANYBODY who recruits for Universal Medicine via the WORKPLACE should be listed publicly. Every UMer is an enlister! That's 100% right Treefern. So far we are aware of lawyers recruiting, doctors recruiting, teachers recruiting, social care workers recruiting, and non registered "practitioners' also recruiting for Serge and UM. None of
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteHerbertKane178New article from Medical Observer concerning Universal Medicine: http://www.medicalobserver.com.au/news/government-blocks-ywca-documents Government blocks YWCA documents A A A Print Article | 27th Nov 2012 Byron Kaye all articles by this author THE federal government has refused to release documents explaining the link, if any, between a $709,493 Commonwealth
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteVenusDarklyGreat post CP. QuoteCOncerned Partner Like all the group bloggers, she characterizes criticism as "bullying" and "hateful". I found some audio today of Serge talking about abuse. Serge's audio is incredibly revealing. Basically, 'abuse' is the way he classifies any attempt at human interaction and definitely any questioning of the student
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
This poor woman, who wisely decided to with hold her name, is a poster girl for why there is increasing concerns about Universal Medicine. In this one post she manages to summarize the effects of indoctrination, recruitment ( aided by the cult lawyers no less) and how critical thought and complex situations and arguments are reduced to simplistic terminology. The title of the post says it
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
This could be a testimonial directly off the UM student site. I am aware of a lateral shift in emotion taking place - an economical movement of what energy is necessary to invest in a moment to moment basis. I watch and feel it within me, without my having to do anything, except be awed and grateful. I have a greater awareness and unshakeable sense of rightness of checking in and coming bac
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteworriedwifeMorning, I thought it was overdue I contribute to the forum. Not sure how to start off here. My sister is heavily involved in UM, she got my husband into the whole thing and he left me for her. Apparantly they understand each other. So I have two relationship breakdowns to deal with. It has been a little while now I am getting by but have my days. My sister has alway been pre-d
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteJasminQuoteworriedwifeMorning, I thought it was overdue I contribute to the forum. Not sure how to start off here. My sister is heavily involved in UM, she got my husband into the whole thing and he left me for her. Apparantly they understand each other. So I have two relationship breakdowns to deal with. It has been a little while now I am getting by but have my days. My sister has alway
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
Why it is quite clear that UniMed is not a cult (according to the UM website) My sides are still splitting after reading this, directly off the UM website. Have they no shame? and no clue. Allow me the honour of debunking it for your reading pleasure. Why it is quite clear that UniMed is not a cult A cult involves abnormal, sometimes secretive behaviour, an all powerful and contro
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteJohn lazurasHi All and UM followers, In recent weeks a man that many people respected, had integrity and was known as one of the best sportsmen in the world has been exposed as a fraud /drug user and a cheat – and this person rides push bikes. Over the last 10 years there were many rumours about this person character / integrity and the persons speaking out against this person were vic
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteEric DobbsLet me get this right Sergio, you once stood behind a very thick curtain . Yeah ,ok , is that where you had your full body orgasm on your own ? Well I've got another name for it sergie boy and I bet the readers know what I'm referring to . That right folks it is something sergie boy does on a regular daily basis , know what I mean ? Over and out Eric Eric, I kn
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuoteMacReadyMost five year olds could answer any question about any mystery in the universe, however that doesn't make their (or Serge's) answers correct. It's funny, I heard Serge say he could walk into a bar and intuitively know which women would be willing to have sex with him and which would not (he added that he would never act on this ability, as doing so would be an abus
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11 years ago
COncerned Partner
Here's a little love and light to brighten up your day, from one who knows not the imprisonment they are in: It pays not to dance alongside the true fiery esoteric work. It is a very harming illusion to do so and one that will take many lifetimes to heal………………………end. Dear students, Take special note of the above warning. My words will make themselves be known more and more as we
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
NEWSFLASH!! LORDS OF FORM UP TO NO GOOD IN NORTH QUEENSLAND. TELEGRAPH RUNS STORY ON UM CULTIES WONT LIKE. PREPARE FOR FLOOD OF EMAILS ABOUT LOVELESS MEN, LOVING CHOICES, LISTENING TO HEART, MEDIA BIAS, CUT AND PASTE JOURNALISM, AMAZINGNESS, INTEGRITY, ETC ETC Looks like the few men who can't deal with their issues are on a road trip. The MacKay Telegraph has printed a story, very si
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotetreefernThanks both CP and VD for your kind words and support, that is what the REAL world is all about, human beings being there for other human beings. Not in Judgement but in Love. VD both the Police and our Solicitor are now involved, so we are OK, thank you, I appreciate your concern. My husband and I have come to the conclusion that the UMers are totally mad and whilst sittin
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
QuotetreefernQuoteCOncerned PartnerInteresting Story in a UK paper. I wonder if the Universal Students can see the paralegals with their situation, or whether they would simply highlight the small differences. I wonder if Nick has been treated with as much aggression, hostility, threats of violence, slanderous lies spread and just plain rudness by his 'friends' as my husband has,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
From another thread on this forum. Seem familiar? Serge and Bill should get together for a pow-wow to discuss past life notes and to sort out claims on bodies they were occupying just in case they both lay claim. William Camilleri also makes references to Rudolf Steiner and a lot of his works. He normally does this when he first meet you to give himself a sense of legitimacy. He also
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
COncerned Partner
Interesting Story in a UK paper. I wonder if the Universal Students can see the paralegals with their situation, or whether they would simply highlight the small differences. Take the test: Sitting in the Cotswolds farmhouse that he shares with his wife, the fashion designer Savannah Miller (sister of Sienna), Nick Skinner is explaining how an intelligent, middle-class man could get suck
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