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10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Dear ThePoolman, I suggest you refrain. Immediately. In Fact... "Wink Wink" Boy.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
QuoteSandmanGoing back to the question of the number of members of Desteni, there are 112 registered on the private forum: Sandman that is a link to the private forum. Earlier in this thread an alternative link was given which amounts to higher participation. Desteni Forum Notice the iconography is just a world on the main forum. NB: maybe the 112 members hold more knowledge
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Interesting use of analogy there wanderingcrow. Bernard has been referred to as frog in the past. I am not entirely sure if it is in reference to unclean spirits mentioned in revelations, the large fossil which was found and named Beelzebufo or something completely different. bigmouthB (4 months ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Maddie with 100 names an
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10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thank you for the links Sandman. I agree with what you said about Poolman exerting demonstrable control. tullepie 2 years ago Isn't cutting your hair not just; changing the picture? Aren't you now not just defining yourself as someone with short hair? I don't get it... When I read this comment, I got the feeling the young woman involved was being covertly chastised by
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Yes I have heard that before Gabrielmt. I am curious as to when that term was introduced... There is something I forgot to point out in including that video of Marlen first cutting her hair short 2008, as a precursor to her eventual complete hair shave. Tullepie (now 54) makes an interesting remark towards the young Marlen (now 23): * tullepie 2 years ago Isn&#
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
I apologise Sandman, I had read ThomDarc quote you directly on it below your comment but I see now it was a quote from the forum. On the note of the head shaving being a prerequisite to membership after 2009: Here is a one member Maite shaving her hair in June 2008. At that time referring to the "process" as to "To Shave or to Slave - Beauty System Demon in ACTION&quo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
QuoteSandmanIf what you've proposed is accurate, Nasrudin's Donkey, then the Desteni FaceWorldFaceOff project would be taking off, with hundreds of members displaying photos of themselves without any hair. At images of the same few faces are repeated. Sandman, although I certainly see your point. I would like to point out that Ann1986 took over two years to eventually shave her hair of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thanks for that link Sandman. I have two posts I would like to do about my thoughts on it. Here is the first. Quotes by Sunette Spies from the video "5 - Portal History - Making my own Way" During the video Sunette Spies recalls her "first encounters" with Bernard Poolman and Esteni de Wet in 2004. 1.39 "Now this was in 2004, one day uhm one day Eagle and his fiance
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Bernard Poolman has also stated publicly that he would be removing his teeth to see if they grow back and that to love is to be a psychopath So I am not sure how much Bernard's verbalisation's should be associated with the indisputable truth. Keep in mind he was involved in rather bizarre Internet scuffles with Donald Herman when the material point may be that he is an associate of Don
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Below I have included some further information/connections, which may be of interest to people regarding Donald and Elbie Herman. (I presume the numbers I have put as mobile phones are actually mobile numbers... Which tend to be used by one person...) Elbie Mobile Number Mobile # 0836575160 Renting/Selling property: Screenshot of page: _________________________________________
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
After reading something else the anticult posted... QuoteTheAnticultSince neither of those names, (Esteni de Wet, Bernard Poolman) are turning up on the internet or on Usenet before Desteni was started-up, one has to assume that those are fake names concocted as part of the Desteni scam. My curiousity was arisen again. And I have found something interesting: Esteni Name Topic On Desteni F
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
I would like to add something more in relation to the Bernard Poolman/Donald Herman situation. To start here is a quote from earlier within the discussion on this forum- QuoteTheAnticultIf someone locally can do a search and find out the REAL names of Bernard Poolman and his wife, and if it turns out they are using fake names, their hypocrisy and lies will be even more ridiculous. I was curio
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
I would like to add something more in relation to the Bernard Poolman/Donald Herman situation. To start here is a quote from earlier within the discussion on this forum- QuoteTheAnticultIf someone locally can do a search and find out the REAL names of Bernard Poolman and his wife, and if it turns out they are using fake names, their hypocrisy and lies will be even more ridiculous. I was curio
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thanks Sandman. That's an interesting post by Bernard... Quote by Bernard Poolman: Quote"we didn't seek out the reptilians- Anu came to us" Referring back to something ThomDarc said earlier. Was Anu even supposed to be a reptilian? Sounds like a David Icke theory...? Wikipedia article on Anu- QuoteHe was one of the oldest gods in the Sumerian pantheon, and part of a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
One speculation I have towards the Bernard Poolman/Donald Herman situation is as follows. Perhaps Aruan9s actions, if he is indeed Bernard Poolman (or an inner circle member) could be seen as a way of creating cultic bonding, as it were. In that I mean, maybe "aruan9" was deployed in order to create greater solidarity between fledgling Desteni members. Picture this, a fanatical
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
I would like to add something in relation to a point Sandman made on page 41 of this thread. And cover some of the distraction methods of Desteni. To quote: Quotebut it is clear that there are members of Desteni who are deliberately attempting to mislead other people who make public statements critical of Desteni. They do this by wasting their time with pointless commentary, appearing to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thanks again Sandman and Acumen Sense. Very interesting. Believe it or not, Bernard Poolman has declared on the 20th of July 2010 "To love is to be a psychopath" As well as: "When your mum says to you 'I love you' She's Lying!" Video available here: 2 The Mathematics of Stickmen - Forum Support That's all I have to say on that one.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thank you Sandman. I would like to share something I have noticed in relation to the Desteni members whom have posted here and a rather sick video I have found. To quote Maite Zamora Moreno first of all: QuoteThis is where you are mistaken - you do not require to believe to be able to hear. See - those self-honest within their participation in Desteni and the Deteni message DO NOT
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Cresil, it was me who posted the myspace links, no one else. Forgive me for thinking an individual who states as the title of their youtube page "sadistic benevolence" would not be so easily creeped out. Since you have been so kind to admit those pages are yours, I was wondering if you were also willing to take responsibility for this page: here Since the image used is pretty mu
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Cresil- I wondered if you could confirm if the following two pages belong to you. http://www.youtube.com/user/JeffreyCameronPerry & http://www.youtube.com/proxyhyatt Only... The background of the video- enki tablet Ch.1 [1 - 6] on the page "proxyhyatt" Happens to be identical to the background on your more recent video- SRA Cash Cow featured on your new pa
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Cresil, May I ask are you still with Desteni or Against them? As this is not clear to me. I have some more questions, I hope you do not mind answering. Regarding the SRA course -Was Bernard responsible for the material presented in the SRA course? If you are no longer with Desteni- -When did you leave? Also -How much did you spend on the SRA course? (If this is privat
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
First of all, let me make myself as clear as possible as this issue has the tendency to get quite confusing. I will run through points I have made in the hope to clarify everything I have said: Bernard Poolman has his location stated as Durban on his forum posts on Desteni website: Screenshot of Bernards Avatar and Location Durban being the location of Bernard Poolman "Aruan9" su
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Thanks Sandman. I have some questions for you Cresil, I hope you don't mind answering them. Cresil, on July 21st you stated on page 38 of this thread; QuoteThe SRA lesson 1 video was 'threatened' through a private Desteni message and also: QuoteI will not be taken in by 'threats' Would it be possible to post a copy (a screenshot, for example) of the message Desteni
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Hello Thanks for your input Sandman. I have noticed something interesting occurring between Desteni members which I wanted to point out. It is a little off the topic of Bernards brother but I thought I would mention it anyway. First here are some quotes from an interesting article I read entitled "How to wash brains" QuoteEvery successful brainwasher, whether Synanon, a Jesus
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
10 years ago
ForeverNoMatterWhat
Hello. If "Ferdi" is Poolmans brother, it would be assumed that "Bernard Poolman" is using his real name. Which I am not convinced he is. The question I have is, is anyone able to confirm or deny the existence of an individual who goes by the name of "Donald Herman" online. An example of him posting can be found here: Donald Herman posting on SpiritLib
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