Thanks for that link Sandman. I have two posts I would like to do about my thoughts on it. Here is the first.
Quotes by Sunette Spies from the video "5 - Portal History - Making my own Way"During the video Sunette Spies recalls her "first encounters" with Bernard Poolman and Esteni de Wet in 2004.1.39 "Now this was in 2004, one day uhm one day Eagle and his fiance came to the coffee shop"
3.55 "Your mother is proud of you" (Sunette quotes Eagle, Bernard Poolman)
7.22 "I strained my back a couple years ago when I was about 13 years old"
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Ok first of all, Sunette has stated that Esteni and Bernard were engaged in 2004, she refers to Esteni as Eagle (Bernards) Fiance. The aforementioned court notice refers to Susara Petronella De Wet being married without community of property to Frans De Wet. The notification is from 2008.
Presumably "Frans de Wet" and "Susara Petronella de Wet" are legal names. To be clear:
Susara Petronella de Wet married *without community of property with Frans de Wet, and residing at Geraniumstraat 1, Weltevredenpark, Roodepoort (February 15th, 2008)George Bernard Leopold Poolman, unmarried, residing at Geraniumstraat 1, Weltevredenpark, Roodepoort ( April 30th, 2008 )*community of property is a pre-nuptial agreement.
Quote SandmanLinks posted earlier in the thread on this page: [forum.culteducation.com] show that a
Bernard George Leopold Poolman and a Susara Petronella de Wet went bankrupt in 2008. Esteni de Wet is Poolman's partner.
Quote AnticultDid a certain
"Bernard George Leopold Poolman" go bankrupt in 2008?
Also a "Susara Petronella de Wet" name comes up with identical details to the
"Bernard George Leopold Poolman".Also the "Susara Petronella de Wet" is listed as having an "Insolvent estate" in March 2009.
What else is out there, using various surname combinations?
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NOTICE OF SURRENDER OF DEBTOR'S ESTATE IN TERMS OF ARTICLE 4 (1) OF ACT. 24 VAN 1936, VAN 1936, AS AMENDED
APPLICATION OIUI surrender
Notice is hereby given that application will be made to the Witwatersrand Local Division of the Johannesburg High Court on Wednesday, 21st May 2008 at lOhOO or as soon thereafter as, that the application may be heard for the acceptance of the surrender of
George Bernard Leopold Poolman, ID No. ID No. 6212135014085, unmarried, residing at Geraniumstraat 1, Weltevredenpark, Roodepoort, and that its affairs available for inspection will at the office of the Master of the Johannesburg High Court and Magistrates Court and Pinetown Magistrates Court, for a period of 14 (fourteen) days from Wednesday, April 30th, 2008. Datum: 23/4/08. Date: 4/23/2008
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Quote AnticultThe "Poolman" who went bankrupt, would have to be that persons legal name.
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Alright. Firstly, it is possible any of these individuals could have legally changed their names.
Second of all you asked the question: "Did a certain
"Bernard George Leopold Poolman" go bankrupt in 2008?" Then provided a notification in which the name issued was "
George Bernard Leopold Poolman"
This would imply the individual living at Geraniumstraat 1, Weltevredenpark, Roodepoort carried the legal name of "George Bernard Leopold Poolman"______________________________________________________________________________________
So Susara Petronella was bound in Marriage to Frans de Wet in 2008. Residing in Roodepoort at that time. At the address: Geraniumstraat 1, Weltevredenpark, Roodepoort. The same address as one "George Bernard Leopold Poolman."
Considering Esteni de Wet and Bernard Poolman were meant to be engaged in 2004 and that they are still together now in 2010. It would appear (if this is indeed the same individuals) they were "engaged" while "Susara de Wet" was still married.
To speculate further the
possibility this may in fact be Bernard Poolman I would consider that:
Roodepoort is an area in Johannesburg, Gauteng, South AfricaQuote Aruan999 youtube page:
"I live in Germiston, Gauteng, South Africa."________________________________________________
Donald Herman is Aruan999Both Elizabeth Herman and Donald Herman's landline in their property selling ventures is: # 0119161074The area code for Gauteng is "011"Here is a map to highlight the mentioned areas: [
yfrog.com]
Regarding Johannesburg: Within the FAQ section of the Desteni website, there is an interview featured with Darryl Thomas and Bernard Poolman. An interesting point is raised regarding Johannesburg.
Darryl: Where were you previously?
Bernard: I was in Johannesburg.Darryl: Johannesburg…
Bernard: I was at the biggest police station in the country, I was stationed there.
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TheAnticult
Perhaps the other names being used, are the common aka "aliases" used constantly by Gurus of various stripes? Many many Gurus of every kind, usually have a list of revised names they use in their schemes.
Lastly regarding this matter if "Susara de Wet" is "Esteni de Wet" I am still curious as to why "Esteni de Wet" would change her first name but keep her
legal marital surname during the Desteni venture. Especially if involved in the aforementioned legal issues and if she is involved with a new partner namely Bernard Poolman. Did Esteni and Bernard ever get married? Were they really engaged?
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Is it truly all about the money? Or about shaping(
warping) peoples perceptions?
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