Sure, there's plenty of real info on The Secret at this blog:
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QuotedsmThere may also be conflicts with the laws in Texas or USA regarding education and background, licensing, etc such as where the School District regulations are being ignored. It might be a good idea to alert the schools because there are legitimate teachers who have an interest in teaching those assistance couses on the side (teachers moonlighting during the summer months is a common thi
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Or maybe the Raelians borrowed it from Summum? I don't know which came first. Either way, to claim you can do cloning is a smart publicity stunt for any cult. Ha :-) The symbol of the pentagram with wings on either side is also used by the Rosicrucians. The Kybalion would be Hermetic philosophy also fitting in with the Rosicrucian tradition, and Summum's described as Gnostic Christia
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Yes, that's pretty wacky. I've encountered Summum Bonum Amon Ra before in relation to his re-writing of the classic mystical text, "The Kybalion" -- More on his philosophy here:
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As regards their policies on alcohol and drugs, the information put out by Desteni is misleading. In "Alcohol is Rotten Fruit for Rotten People" -- -- Bernard Poolman states, "at Desteni we do not use alcohol at all, it's not even an issue" The Desteni FAQ -- -- however, lists under what "DESTENI STANDS FOR": "Enjoyment of Alcohol: without intoxica
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I read the first Ringing Cedars book to see what the fuss was about and it seems to be inane, clichéd fluff; a very silly ecology-oriented New Age fantasy story. The books promote the author Vladimir Megre's mail-order business which sells cedar products. It's turned into a craze a bit like "The Celestine Prophecy" or a lot of New Age literature that is pure fantasy but presen
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QuoteCitizendcHere is something that I've though about recently. Desteni is going on about, the children being abducted, raped, abused etc... Why do you think they are not making a phone call a day to the police to inform them of the location of these child abducters / abusers? Surely their "amazing portal" can locate these children instantly and use that information to inform
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Quotedsmwell, it is very scary that people go to such effort for him. There are so many farm commune type groups to travel to see, why him? It's Sunette Spies they are drawn to far more than Poolman. She is the Desteni figurehead and has a higher profile than Poolman. It may be that Desteni acolytes identify with her, want to be like her and even imagine that her information is from "
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QuotedsmThis is beginning to strike me as much less of a threat of a growing global cult than a localized threat of a Manson-like group, because Poolman does not have the savoie-faire to get past people who watch his videos, while his little following possibly are being treated like an annoying little bunch of weirdos who do not merit much attention as long as they seem to stay to themselves, as
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QuoteThe AnticultAnother thing to keep in mind, is that there is no evidence at all, that Bernard Poolman believes his own bullshit about Atlantis, lizards, or anything else. As a matter of fact, since BP teaches his followers that to believe is to beLIEve, the evidence points to Bernard Poolman NOT believing his own ridiculous belief-systems he is selling to others. He claims that "The D
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A look at their forum reveals that the Desteni organization is in trouble. So-called "agreements" (sexual relationships that are monitored by Poolman and the group) between Desteni participants are regularly falling apart or ending. People are "crashing" in their "process" and having to start again. Those who take part in any activity at all that does not fit the
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QuoteThe AnticultBernard Poolman has made a serious error though, he has until now targeted mainly young people. The problem with young people for a cultic group, is that they don't have much money, which explains why Poolman is getting so irate for more money to come in from Desteni. In one of the interviews with Poolman and others on the Desteni farm done by the journalist from South Afr
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QuoteCitizendcAnother Hitler in the making. All this isnt instantly apparent when you first look at the group, especially way back when they started. I recall the videos I did watch on Bernard having a somewhat preaching tone in the beginning of desteni. The videos posted recently on him have this arrogant tone which I've noticed people expressing once they are in a secure position or be
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The Desteni spamming of YouTube is picking up pace with a new propaganda drive, described by one of the organization's core group elite, Daryll Thomas as the "sub4sub extravaganza" at (Process Support -How to Participate Effectively- Maya Harel). Like everything else in Desteni, this initiative has been prompted by Bernard Poolman. See: (Process Support Sub4Sub) The "sub
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Here's a review of some of the unlisted videos recently posted on YouTube and linked at the Desteni public forum. Included is the series, "Process Update June 2010" which reveals something of the current focus of the Desteni organization and Poolman's absurd demands on his followers. Listening to these recordings provides an insight into the bizarre workings of the mind of a m
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QuoteThe AnticultTo the trained-eye, Bernard Poolman is a 4th-rate hack, but he still is running a lot of very sophisticated techniques on people, like getting them to re-language almost their entire vocabulary. Here's an example of one of Poolman's attempts at re-inventing language from the Desteni Forum at ... "As the words we live is the living words we are it is important
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As far as I know, the only mainstream media attention Desteni's received is in the Rapport articles from South Africa I gave links to a few posts ago. More of those interviews are here at but the journalist doesn't challenge the group. Desteni began around 2007.
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Thanks for your input Citizendc, it's appreciated. Interesting to see how Desteni ensure that everyone tows the party line on their forum. The points you made re: destenitruth were reasonable, and generally, the guy who runs that YouTube channel does have several valid criticisms to make. Personally, I wouldn't go along with his ideas re: god and angels or the illuminati, but I don
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Desteni members probably submit the material to any websites that will accept them and/or they have software for mass submission into web directories or some other search optimization methods are being used so that the articles/videos duplicate on various sites.
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Becoming a spammer seems to be one of the first obligations for anyone who participates in the Desteni "process". Desteni members are encouraged to open multiple YouTube accounts. They constantly make pointless comments on each other's videos and many of the videos have inappropriate tagging to increase ratings. Their videos are uploaded to all other free video upload sites. Des
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Bernard Poolman identifies himself as a fan of Hitler, but the Desteni material does not currently deal overtly or in detail with racist, antisemitic, Nazi or fascist ideology, not even the Desteni 'I Am Hitler' series. Yet life on the Desteni Farm could be said to have a similar appeal to the Ariosophy of Nazi real or imagined occult history, an early form of New Ageism: working on &qu
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QuoteThomDarcQuoteSandmanToo early stages yet to ascertain whether Desteni has a Scientological "Fair Game" policy but if so then any dissenter who tries to break away could end up in a lot of trouble. This man here seems to lend evidence towards that end: Possibly. He implies his house was broken into, he was harassed by people from Desteni and had to relocate, but does not exp
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Too early stages yet to ascertain whether Desteni has a Scientological "Fair Game" policy but if so then any dissenter who tries to break away could end up in a lot of trouble.
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QuotedsmI noticed that Desteny is promoting a twisted version of some peculiarly Catholic ideas about masturbation as sin. According to Desteni, masturbation that employs mental or visual stimulus is virtual "rape" of whoever is being fantasized about and there is not only the risk of turning into a rapist and child abuser but contributing to a situation where rapists and child abuser
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QuotedsmHowever, I noticed that every time the critics pushed the destenites on details, a very common reaction was for the destenites to appeal to the horrors of rape and why we do nothing about it, thus somehow proving we are all in need of Desteny's answers, which remain off-scene. I have not seen any Desteny policy that would eradicate rape or some of the other abuses that Desteny claims
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There are three articles on Desteni published at é-plaas-word-met-demone-gepraat-20091121 and Reading these via a Google English translation, they give the impression that Desteni is a rather meek and mild esoteric group focussed on the virtues of forgiveness and honesty, as well as helping people overcome their "demons"; as though they were some sort of contemporary monastic
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This is hilarious . . . Free Market Capitalism Creates Overpopulation
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QuoteNoble9Yes, it's very strange that in all of the Desteni videos I've watched (too many), I've never seen Bernard's face. There are not many photos of him available, though we do have a few. By hiding his face, their leader doesn't do much to dispel the idea that Desteni is anything more than a cult. A cult whose leader has something to hide. One reason Bernard Po
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One of the main tactics used by Bernard Poolman is to manufacture a sense of guilt and consequently mistrust as regards anything or anyone outside of the Desteni group process. He claims that there is so much crime, poverty, starvation etc because people won't recognise their own responsibility; they have "accepted and allowed" these things to happen. The upshot of this line of &qu
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Here are links to an interesting radio program from 2007 when Desteni first began on the Internet: Understanding Destini Understanding Destini Part 2 Understanding Destini Part 3 In connection with that, there's Kendras response to a video about her, made by a sick site There's also an article that begins, "We were possibly, no, definitely made aware if
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