QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: "SoI Kills" has been banned from this message board. And the "Cult of Butler" Web site article about this message board thread has been given a "Flaming Websites Award." See Good. Thanks! This fellow's rants seemed to be getting crazier and crazier over the last few weeks. He seemed to be attacking anyone
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QuoteDassiThis Krishna loves Jesus, Jesus loves Krishna booklet brought back a lot of memories. ... Yea, me too. There was also another little booklet called "ALOHA SPIRIT - WHY DEAD?" or something like that... This booklet was about how the American lifestyle had ruined the "Aloha Spirit" of the Hawaiian people... how tourism, industry, money etc. from the mainland h
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QuoterrmoderatorVera City: Please understand that this thread has been literally plagued with trolls. People have come here repeatedly with ulterior motives and hidden agendas, i.e. to somehow minimize the damage done by Chris Butler and/or attempt to shift the blame. The documents you have added are interesting, but there is reason to believe that you may have posted here earlier under
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QuoteVera CitySuppressed love returns as a coldness towards others and even misanthropy. Suppressed enjoyment returns as inappropriate humor and bitterness. Suppressed sexuality returns with twisted features such as unreasoned hatred of homosexuals, subjugation of women, or child sexual abuse. A suppressed natural awe and reverence of the beauty in the world returns as a flat affect and symptoms
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How many Haribolers does it take to change a light bulb? Seven. One to screw in the light bulb. Four to try and suck out the poisons from the bulb. Two to dig the graves for those who committed suicide for being condemned for not getting the correct light bulb. ----------------- But seriously, though, here again we see the absurdity of "Jagad Guru" and his craziness...
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QuoteVeraThis is what is so crazy about the philosophy. For the most part, followers were hard working, trying to support themselves and their families, while giving as much as they could to CB. Eating, sexuality, reproducing, loving, friendship, taking care of your family are seen as BAD things. This was the mind fuck. This was the place where you had to drop off the critical thinking cliff to b
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QuoteDassiWhy would a pure deevoteeee need security? Were they armed guards? Did ACB ever have guards? It's kinda weird that they turned on the tap water? I think it is funny that none of the male disciples wanted to take this job! Wonder if the incentive was initiation since it was probably un-paid labor. Maybe one of his followers was so hungry they lifted his wallet? =( Boo hoo h
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IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO.... IT TAKES ONE PERSON TO DELIVER A MANGO. Here is another angle regarding the mango fiasco: There seems to have been a lack of communication on the part of the said guru to ask for his mango breakfast... surely if the man had phoned Krishna Katha and asked him to bring him the mangos to his door, he would have done so immediately. What the problem is, however, i
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QuoteSoI KillsGood one Googs. But Cara would never be bothered to go through all your posts like that. She doesn't have the patience for information that is not relevant to anything. That's my perfectionism playing up. I go overboard sometimes. Nice try. In your defense though you've probably run out of unique things to say about the cult after three years on here right? Since y
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QuoteVeraThe formation of the SIF Board Good help is hard to find! Women are put in their place...... Big donors were getting upset about how the money was being spent, so CB set up a new policy to appease them and keep his coffers growing... The only thing he wants is money. So much for "simple living and high thinking". NOW THIS IS JUICY INFORMATION... here in bl
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QuoteSoI Kills or CULTREPORTER?Read the following post of Vera's that I joined to a post of Zeligs. Although the subject matter of the two are very obviously different note how well they seemlessly still match up. The tone, the use of grammar, the accentuation all matches perfectly: WHAT A COINCIDENCE! It seems that the tone, use of grammar and belligerent writings of SoI Kills matches
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Hi Vera, thanks for posting the latest pages... seeing how my poetry has become so popular, this little limerick came to mind: There was a man from Hawaii Who saved the life of a bee... He said "Look at me" I'm a Maharaji and lived a life of hypocricy! sorry, couldn't resist :0) 8-)
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QuoteVera CityOh yeah, you can go down the IGG brochures line by line (all written by CB) and compare the ideals to the reality! He has become exactly what he puts down! You know, they say you become what you focus on -- in this case it is true. So true ... this is why some are not calling it Science of identity but... SCIENCE OF HYPOCRISY ;0)
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QuoteSoI KillsNot to single dassi out but let's look at Googlings performance over 6 months prior to this latest documents phase: March 26 - talks about Bob Dylan ETC..... Thanks for documenting my latest posts over the last six months ... I didn't know my poetry was so appreciated! I love you! (where is that blushing emoticon when you need it?) ;-)
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Yeh, let's keep this a SUPPORTIVE forum of past cult members who have come forward to tell their story... the key word here is SUPPORTIVE :0)
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QuoteDassiVera, I am LMAO! To think I bought that shit! I remember standing in front of a grocery store passing out Hoshijo flyers. I met one of her high school classmates who told me Kathy was the most arrogant person she had ever met and that she would never vote for her. At the time I really thought Kat was a pure deeeevoteeee. Almost coughed a hairball hearing that! Must of be
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Hey, Vera, thanks for posting the godly government brochure... I don't think I have ever seen these before ... CLASSIC! "Godly leaders are not showing the way to austerity but are living luxuriously..." hahahahahahahah :) CLASSIC! And thanks for the pic ... dig that hip clothing...! :)
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Yeh, war on EROTICISM ... that's a good one!!! :0) Thanks for posting the typed pages about the school in Hawaii, Vera. What hits me most when reading these pages is Siddha's obvious obsession with politics ... okay it's no big deal for someone to get involved with politics, but: 1) there seems something wrong with a so-called spiritual leader to get so involved with politics
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Oh, crickey, Dassi and crew, you've got me waxing poetical again! I couldn't stop this little ditty going through my head this morning: SIDDHA'S INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE 21st CENTURY... (Or - is this really the absolute truth?) Hate the fag. Salute the American Flag. Vote for Bush at the next election. Get married, have children - BUT DON'T HAVE AN ERECTION. Our mis
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QuoteVera CityClearly, CB fancied himself as self-effulgent, rather than the perilous reality, “Self-Indulgent”. Holy, Holy, Holy! .... Good one, Vera City... Yes, I remember this stuff from all those years ago ... wasted years. And then it got even crazier with all that craziness around his worship and care ... would be interesting to read some of that nonsense all these years later, huh
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I should also mention that people with Rh negative factor have been associated with the following traits: * Extra vertebra (some even born with a "tail" - known as "cauda") * Lower than normal body temperature * Lower than normal blood pressure * Higher mental analytic abilities * Higher negative ion shielding around body * Higher sensitivity to EM and ELF fi
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Lame post, bro! :)
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QuoteRama Das (slave name) Presidential Roots.... The Kings and rulers of old have only vanished on the surface, the same families still have unmatched global power. I think you're onto something here, Rama Das... The bloodlines have been kept pure through selective breeding and some in-breeding... For example, when Prince Charles went to donate blood to the Red Cross (in on
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Good one, Dharmabum! For those Generation X people who might not know what we are talking about here... Bob Dylan was a popular and prolific singer/songwriter from the 1960s... "I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more" was a song from his "Bringing It All Back Home" album. Maybe we could do a re-make of his comical "Talking World War 3 Blues"
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I ain't gonna work at Siddha's mansion no more No I ain't gonna work at Siddha's mansion no more... He doesn't give you a nickel, he doesn't give you a dime, He asks you with a grin if you're having a good time... Then he fines you every time you slam the door. No, I ain't gonna work at Siddha's mansion no more. He stubs his cigar out in your f
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QuotequotesmanThat is the problem with politics.. a real politician will go with the tide. Now that the war is becoming so unpopular Krishna Katha das might change his attitude externally and do a different dance in order to keep his popularity. It has nothing to do with the truth. Krishna Katha das was never really homophobic or a war monger until FL taught him to be and at heart I think he p
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Yup, the most likely scenario is that surfing is strictly forbidden - surfing on the internet because one might hear a different opinion... surfing in the ocean because it puts one in the mood of enjoyment ... and as we all know, enjoyment is the biggest evil around... (of course guru is allowed to surf all day long because he is God's most intimate friend ... makes sense, huh?) G
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I just found this review on another website: There are some reviewers here who seem to think that what goes on at Bohemian Grove is no big deal and just innocent fun. I think that they are missing the point. All of these supposed Christians are engaging in the worship of an idol and mock human sacrifice. The Christian Bible is crystal clear on this topic. Delving into the occult in any way, sh
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Quoteleft_of_the_dial Personally, I'm interested in getting more information on exactly what their activities consist of. Good to see someone out there who cares.... go and check out "Ted Gunderson" on youtube. Ted Gunderson was the head of the FBI in Los Angeles. He talks about satanism and child abductions involving the upper crust. I don't think his testimony can b
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QuoteDassi Chris’s teachings are supposed to be a panacea for all the ills in the world; divorce, drug use, promiscuity, crime, misery. If divorces are still going on in the group at the same rate as the general population, it just shows you that the teachings are not valid or the chanting and serving is not working. EXACTLY, EXACTLY EXACTLY! This has been my line of thought for many d
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