I loved Gary Renards comments on Hawkins from his book Immortal Reality. I believe Gary or his ascended Masters pegged Hawkins perfectly. I dont particularly care for Renard, but I think he hit the nail on the head with hawkins. Its a shame more people in Sedona cant objectively read what Renard wrote about him. OR for that matter, all the Hawkins followers. It is not an insult but is actually an
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I just found out that Hawkins cancelled his europe schedule for Hay House and will be issuing refunds. Ah darn, those europeans wanted to see Hawkins and see his ktesting in person. Hawkins is up there in age and probably wont be making any more world tours. I give him credit though for his busy schedule though and still trying to give seminars and write books. Although to me his books a
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I wasnt sure why you posted about the trutester. Is it to show how silly this hawkins stuff has become, or should we order it, does this stuff work. Please share more why you posted that.
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I know you dont believe in his ktesting nor do i. But what do you think Hawkins himself calibrates at, not from Ktesting, but from looking at his map of consciousness. With 600 and over being enlightenement, 200 and above being integrous, 400's being very intellectual, and below 200 nonintegrous. Do you think Hawkins can possibly have fallen and is below 200. Or is he integrous and above
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not only is hawkins map of consciousness similar to scientology, it is also strikingly similar to the Sedona Methods map too. It is in the Sedona Method book by Hale Dwoskin. So in my opinion hawkins map is not so original and he seems to have gotten most of his stuff on it from Lester Levenson the founder of the Sedona Method, and maybe some from L Ron Hubbard. The only thing Hawkins added to it
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Hi Phoenix Potter, I find your posts so awesome and informative, you rock man. I cant wait to read what you write. It is so helpful and refreshing to hear these perspectives. I cant wait to hear what is happening right at this moment. Please do share when you know more. Everything you share is so enlighteneing and thought provoking. I have gained so much already by reading you. Teh Miracle
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You mentioined I can get my money back for the books I bought. Do you think that is true, even though I bought them from Barnes and Noble and BOrders, rather than from Veritas. Do you have any experience with this or know anybody who got a refund from Veritas just by asking??
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I am amazed to see that this thread has over 22,000 views. That is awesome and there is a lot of people reading this and getting exposed to another side of Hawkins, than the ones you read at his internet fan groups, which has only over a thousand members. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
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I am surprised more people arent jumping in on here and talking about Hawkins. There must be others like ourselves who have fallen for Hawkins and now see some of his cultish stuff that is surrounding him.
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HI Phoenix Potter, I just discovered it too. I did get your message but I need at least 10 approved messages before I am able to respond to peoples private messages. I received yours, but cannot respond to it until I get up to 10 messages on here. This one will make 8 and I need just a few more. I will type up a few more so we can communicate privately too. When I get up to 10 I will respond b
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I forgot to aske. I wanted to know more about the lawsuit of the person who was typing up a transcript of Dr Hawwkins office series tape. Is there any link to this. Also, any other information about the You Tube incident. WHy his video was pulled. I believe a true teacher would allow his material to be broadcast to help as many sentient living beings as possible. This lawsuit stuff really irrita
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I have been away from the computer for a few days now. I just saw you posted a lot of links for me, thanks, that will be very helpful. The gurus that I got attracted to for awhile, I never got too deep into. Luckily, thank GOd, I always have gotten out before too much damage was done. I am very naive and trusting. I listen to what other followers say and they speak so highly of their gurus, t
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I am real busy and will probably be away for a little while. But when I find more time I still want to go back and go through some of your old posts and ask more questions on it, for I said earlier some of the things you wrote I didnt necessarily agree with or understand. Maybe as an idea, you could post one post that has alll of the links to important Hawkins articles or criticisms in one pla
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Do you think there is any harm in just reading Hawkins, mainly from his main book, Power vs Force? As long as I dont buy into his nonsense in the form of kinesilogy, is it okay just to read this book and take what is helpful and leave the rest alone? Or do you feel there is a danger in this? What harm could this do in your opionion? You mentioned you did not think Hawkins was enlightened.
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What did you think of Hawkins on Oprah radio? DId you listen to it or read about it? I read on Levelofconsciousness.org that you pointed me too, was talkign about it and making such a big deal about him being on there. Any comments about Sir David Hawkins appearance on it. He seems to be very popular these days, seminars selling out in hours, and his interent chat groups growing daily. He even ha
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Hi Phoenix Potter, I dont have much time at the moment to reply thorughly to your questions but with my limited time will try my best. First of all, I didnt agree with your take on the power vs force review by the Christian person. I found it funny to say the least. You cant use that kind of nonsense to put Hawkins down. It just cant be taken seriously. I have nothing against any religion,
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Hi Phoenix Potter, I have been reading your posts about Hawkins and had some questions for you. You seem very knowledgeable about Hawkins, but some of what you write doesnt convince me. I have had other gurus in the past who are cult leaders and I have gotten out and I do not want to get involved with another cult leader. However, Hawkins seems pretty cool and not another fake. You still
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