Re:Pema's Comments.. Indeed we are not all ogres, and I agree, people do have agendas why, some contributors, such as yourself, are journalists, now there’s a profession that operates with concealed intent! Take your attempts to ingratiate yourself (partly by contributing to the vacuous insults heaped in my direction) with those on this forum, who could prove a useful journalistic sourc
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Kurukalla, I note you choose to avoid addressing the points raised in my previous posting, presumably to prevent torpedoing your own specious claims? May I suggest you read Professor David Snellgrove’s definitive study on Bon, it may dispossess you of some rather curious misconceptions you seem to hold. As to your recent comments, regarding the claimed deities of Hansard‘s so-called ‘teachin
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Re:Gondolf's Posting "He can sing songs and recite rituals in a language that is clearly not Tibetan but also has a clear syntax and grammer How can you assert or prove this with any certainty, as this 'language' is uknown to you? As to logical syntax and grammar such coherance is present in over 30 recently constructed lanaguages) . Well one wonders what language that
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Atlantic, I leave 'compassion' and 'insight' to other individuals, such as those who, for year-after-year, kept silent as Hansard reportedly inflicted abuse upon clients. As to your references, I was already aware of those titles, I had asked for detailed references as in page numbers, can you kindly provide those? Dorje, in relation to the reported abuses, the onus of resp
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Re: Atlantic's Comments "Since many students, patients and apprentices have cut their ties with Mr. Hansard it is clear that, given information, they do not support his behaviour". Maybe, but what about their inaction at that time, as the abuses were seemingly taking place? Is it not a case of too little too late? "There is a Bonpo Lama just outside London who has
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How interesting that any dissenting voice from the orthodoxy which seems to have developed on the forum, is either ignored, dismissed without any meaningful intellectual challenge, or simply insulted. Clearly a nerve has been touched, one wonders why it is that my questions precipitated such a curious reaction? Could it be they exposed an uncomfortable truth which had previously been hidden behi
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In relation to the postings concerning Hansard's publishers, and the contents of his books, I thought he following may prove of interest. Many online reviews of Christopher Hansard’s books feature some intriguing curiosities, particularly the contributions of some reviewers, whose identities and credentials raise a umber of questions. It has been suggested that Mr.Hansard was engaged in a
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Maybe it would be more constructive if your adhered to the actual issues under examination Cirrus, rather than indulging in what some may consider insults. I do not see them as such, and I am sure you did not mean to be perceived in that way, perhaps it was a moment of anger, or maybe you find it difficult to address the questions which have been raised? Whatever the reasons for your comments I t
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Firstly, you will not be aware that prior to 1995 there was no Tibetan Bonpo in the UK, I know this for a fact. Indeed even now there are only four Tibetan Bonpos in the country, so I do not know exactly to which 'community' you refer. Secondly the majority of Bonpo are based in Tibet, those in exile live in scattered and isolated locations in the Himalayan foothills of India and Nepa
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Critical speculation is not denunciation, please try to lay aside any attachment to Hansard's bogus system enough to recognize the distinction. Having a 'belief' is indeed a subjective and individual experience, but any sane and reasonable mind would concede that this only exists within the perceptions/awareness of those who claim to have experienced whatever state or event. It has
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Interesting how Atlantic chooses to ignore the speculative nature of my posting, avoiding the details, and wrongly dismissing it as being judgemental, perhaps a degree of judgement by Hansard's cronies may have prevented the reported abuse and manipulation of clients? I wonder if this because the contents touch upon some uncomfortable facts, and ask difficult questions of those who knew but
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While I can concur with a view which states that belief/personal experence per se cannot be proved one way, or another, Hansard's 'Dur-Con' 'teachings' and claims are indeed open to critical examination and can be demonstrated to have validity or not. As I have detailed previously, and on the blog there are a number of glaring inconsistencies and misleading distortions
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Kurukulla, Forgive me for observing but the description you just posted, regarding reported abuse, does not seem to conform with other troubling accounts which have been posted here. Perhaps, before the much demanded progress which has been requested of late, people need to assert more clearly the nature of abuse? I say this because the account given by Kurukulla presents a rather glowing and ex
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Dorje I appreciate your comments, may I kindly request that you do not mistake 'anger' with determination, efficiency, persistency and singularity of purpose, all of which I possess with respect to efforts to expose Mr.Hanard's claims and activities. Kurukulla, Thank you for your remarks, however I am not discussing 'points of view', rather the plain fact that Chris
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I marvel at the, Rasuptin-like, degree of totalitarian control Hansard seems to have exercised, and the ease with which others' critical and intelligent faculties were abandoned, or left slumbering, presumably as the abuses went on uchallenged and unreported? For how many years 'realnamegone/chris' were clients exposed to abuse and exploitation? What effective actions did you, or o
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'James' I notice Hansard's cynical mispresentation and exploitation of Tibet's authentic Bon tradition is absent from your list of issues You also choose not to include the fact that he used his 'Dur Con' invention to deceive and manipulate his clients. Absent too is any reference to Hansard claim (fraudulent of course) that HH the Dala Lama recognized Hansard&
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Perhaps it would be more constructive to concentrate upon the actual issues under discusson, rather than dealing in subjective and fallacious perceptions, and reaching fact-free conclusions. I welcome this forum as one that values dissent, passion and determination, why it even embraces passivism, complicity, new-age orthodoxy and conformity! Moreover it also provides a platform to Mr. Hansard an
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Dear 'realnamegone' Shall we return to the subject in hand? Namely the cynical exploitation and misrepresentation of the authentic Tibetan Bon tradition by Mr Christoper Hansard! I am happy to debate this matter with you in detail, and continue to await hard evidence to verify the claims regarding his so-called 'Dur Bon' system. Meanwhile, may I refer you to the detailed cr
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Cirrus, I am a little disappointed, and genuinely surprised, at the nature of your rather personal comments. I can only conclude you have completely misread my previous contribution.
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Chavah, I am sure having it appears, personal experience of Mr.Hansard, you will probably concur with the observation that we are talking about an individual with a marked ability to manipulate, deceive and act. That being so, and there some contributors ot this frum who have expressed a similar view of his particular 'talents', I wonder if anyone can be so easily convinced by Cirrus�
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Re: Atlantic's Comments "Whatever the truth about CH's background..." There is no doubt regarding the fraudulent claims made by Mr Hansard concerning his so-called 'lineage' and 'tradition', it was pure. deliberate and self-serving, exotic invention, that callously exploited the genuine Tibetn Bon tradition.
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Some Hansard/Dur-Con related (Canadian-based) websites (thunder-island & wellbeing) apear to have gone off-line. A further signal that efforts to expose Mr Hansard's fraudulent claims are having some impact.
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Some Hansard/Dur-Con related (Canadian-based) websites (thunder-island & wellbeing) apear to have gone off-line. A further signal that efforts to expose Mr Hansard's fraudulent claims are having some impact.
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The courageous and moving accounts posted here, by those whose lives have been reported as being tainted by the manipulation and odious excesses of Mr.Hansard, are a compelling and eloquent call for action. A number of terrible wrongs appear to have been committed by that individual, it would a proper and just response to work together to ensure such abuses are not inflicted upon other women, and
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Re: Atlantic's remarks "...Tibetan culture must include a vast array of different schools, teachers and teachings" Indeed, there are a number of teachings, not though a 'vast array of different schools' including the genuine native tradition of Bon. However, the exotic and fantastic claims of the 'Master of Dur-Con' are a cynical deception, invented by Han
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Mr. Hansard's 'empire', as regards his so-called Tibetan 'lineage' and 'training', is built upon deception, which could very convincingly be deconstructed, and exposed as such. I am puzzled why Gondolf seems so intent on discouraging efforts to take effective and just actions against the 'Master of Dur-Con'. Besides, initiatives to reveal the fraudulen
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That may well be so, however such reasoning can also be used as a form of legalistic evasion, while there may be some restrictions such organisations have the freedom to speak-out. There is a distasteful hypocrisy in claiming to have ethical commitments and professional standards and then claim these can only be applied to a membership. Abuse is abuse, and surely demands the censure and challenge
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Indeed, I have noted that UK bodies such as BAC, ICM, and BCMA have no legal jurisdiction over 'practitioners' such as Mr. Hansard, that does not however exempt these organizations from having an ethical position, or excuse them from not challenging those who abuse and manipulate. By maintaining what seems a virtual silence on such issues, the question is surely raised, are they compli
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Absolutely Cath, a just and appropriate resolution should be realised for anyone who may have been abused or traumatized through Mr.Hansard's 'Dur-Con' activities. In light of the seeming criminality of those reported abuses, legal options should not be discounted, certainly not on the basis of some highly unlikely dewey-eyed 'transformation' for Mr Hansard. Apart from th
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Dear Chavah.With respect to Hansard's books, in particular their so-called Dur Bon teachings/concepts, they are not fairy tales, as they can contain mythical or anthropological truths,. The books of the 'Master of Dur-Con' are the worst form of parasitic and manipulative invention, that callously feeds upon a genuine native tradition, in this case authentic Tibetan Bon, for proft a
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