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16 years ago
question lady
Quoterrmoderator And credible institutions, programs and licensed helping professionals won't ask clients/participants to sign away their right to a trial by jury regarding potential personal injuries, which Landmark insists its customers must do first before receiving training. Mr. Ross, If you know, I am curious whether one of these waivers has ever been challenged. If so, did it hold
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Thanks for filling me in elena and maurice. That's really heavy. My husband is in "The Release Technique" and they have taught him that all "negative" feelings are "garbage". I take it that LE does not distinguish between "victim" as a mind set or identity and "victim" as the receipient of a harmful event? I guess pragmatist cannot c
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
pragmatist, No, I have not done LE nor any other LGAT. You have no obligation to answer my question about whether you understand why your previous post was perceived as heartless and uncaring, but I would be interested in hearing your thoughts if you are so inclined.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
pragmatist, I am wondering if you understand why your previous post was perceived as heartless and uncaring. Did Landmark teach you anything about empathy?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Chastain, Sorry to hear you are having such a hard time. It's understandable though. The reality of what has happened may take a while to sink in. It sounds like you really loved this woman and wanted to make a life with her, and now she's gone, married to a guy she just met and you are alone and hurting. That really sucks. I am sorry for your pain. I thank you for posting your
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
:lol: LOL Sounds like you've got it covered.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
The guarantee on the web site doesn't say anything about an authorizaton code and that's what you relied on when you bought it. (you might want to copy that page). But if you still have enough time, it probably will help things go smoother if you get the code. If you call, Larry Crane will probably try to make you look like an idiot. I've heard him shut people down and lots of f
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16 years ago
question lady
The fact that they require a waiver from your therapist or mental health professional may help you get out of the contract and get your money back. It is one of their conditions of attendance, and you are not able to obtain it. Therefore the contract is void on the grounds of impossibility. If you paid with a credit card you may be able to challenge the charge and assert this defense to the ch
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16 years ago
question lady
Dear VJM, It is probably a good thing for you that the tapes drove you nuts. I think mindconcern mentioned elsewhere on this thread that 1 in 3 people can be put in trance by this. I don't know where she got this information but it may well be that some people get hypnotized and others hate it for some reason. Congratulations on realizing that it doesn't make any sense and it isn&
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16 years ago
question lady
I don't know how many counselors are informed about LGAT's. My husband I went to one who totally dismissed my concerns and just seemed to have the attitude that if he says the program is great and helping him, then it is. There was another that immediately picked up on what was happening. This one is available for phone consultations. If anyone is interested, please contact me via PM
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16 years ago
question lady
The LGAT's are remarkably similar in their methods and results. That's why I started this as a separate topic, rather than putting it under The Release Technique. Some media attention to this problem would be great. It seems that Salt Lake City would be a good place to get a story since Impact is headquartered there (correct?) and the LDS church doesn't like them and doesn
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16 years ago
question lady
exImpact, Your example is incredibly twisted on so many levels. Sounds like the "decrees" are really powerful and they guy inadvertantly killed his grampa with a poorly worded decree which lacked appropriate disclaimers.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
I think Skeptic has a wonderful way of using satire to show the ridiculoulousness of these teachings. :lol:
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16 years ago
question lady
Quoteskeptic I was molded and programmed in a matter of days to not say certain words, to stand a certain way, to this, to that, and TO THIS DAY I notice when I don't adhere to the rules. I see pictures of me, after I rejected the program, standing/sitting the lgat way. Wow! Seriously? They teach you a right way to sit and stand? That's mind-blowing.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Chastain, I am so sorry this has happened to you. It all sounds so crazy. I hope it helps in some way to know that you are not alone and to in some way make sense of what happened to your girlfriend. I know that doesn't take away the pain though. At some point, Im sure reality will come crashing down on her, but that is probably little comfort to you now. Thanks for giving us the
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
I agree that all of these destructive programs have kernals of truth in them. But rather than risk harm to yourslef, why not use a program that has the good things without the destructive elements? Also, there is the issue of the unethical, surreptitious use of hypnotic and other mind control techniques. I now realize that Larry Crane's tapes use pacing and repetition to put people into a
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16 years ago
question lady
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and insights. Most of all, thank you for your caring. I think you are right Sonnie Dee that he is just trying to put into practice what he has learned, this time on me, whether it fits or not. I also understand that he is disconnected from himself and therefore can't connect with me. Yet, none of this changes the fact that I was sick a
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16 years ago
question lady
Tippytoe, No, he was not like that before. As I said Quotequestion lady In the past, if I was sick, he would express concern, ask if he could do anything for me, give me a hug. Now I get nonsensical cliches instead of empathy. The trouble is, I can't talk with him when he is "released" which is really dissociatted and disconected. I mean, I could talk, but he wouldn't
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
I started a new topic under LGAT - "Lack of compassion in Graduates" because I am curious whether other programs produce similar results. It is the Release Technique is affecting my husband though.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Last night was very disturbing. I started feeling quite ill - physically. My husband (who got suckered into "The Release Technique") had just been on the phone with his "releasing buddy". We were going to do some yard work together but I told my husband I was feeling really bad and I needed to lay down. "Give yourself some approval for wanting to lay down", he tells
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
It looks like one of The Secret teachers may be a con artist. (gasp!)
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Perhaps people could contact those familiar with the program and willing to help by private message, once they have the requisite number of posts. This could allow for the sharing of more detailed information without compromising privacy.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Dear Ghost Dancer, I am glad to hear that your wife seems more open to considering that she has been affected negatively by the group. That's progress. I don't know whether it was like this for other people but I wanted to let you know that for my husband it doesn't seem to be like there is a breakthrough moment when the light goes on. It's more like the cracks in the sy
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Dear Tippytoe, I am sorry to hear that your mom is telling you that because it's not true. Perhaps people like to believe that because it gives them a false sense of control over events beyond our control. I worked in a Rape Crisis Center for several years and talked with many rape victims who said they didn't think this could ever happen to them. Yet it did. Perhaps because of
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
question lady
Dear Tipytoe, The techniques in the resources I mentioned above helped me get rid of distorted negative thoughts that don't serve me. Some so called "negative" thoughts are warning us about something and once we take appropriate action the negative thought/feeling leaves because it has done its job and it is no longer needed. Take Care.
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16 years ago
question lady
Dear exImpact, Thank you for the kind compliment. I do truly care about the people dealing with this stuff. I am very grateful to you and the others for sharing your experiences. It has been an enormous help to me. I just want to pass it on. On this message board, you are having a real impact. :lol:
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16 years ago
question lady
Dear Ghost Dancer, I can relate to what you are describing. Sometimes, hubby would seem to be fine, connected to himself and reality, and then he would listen to a Release Technique conference call & it was like he flipped back into what I call "vacant euphoria". The group my husband is in does not have meetings in town thankfully. I imagine that would make it worse. Somet
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16 years ago
question lady
Dear Tippytoe, Obviously, (if you have read my above posts), I would not recommend the Sedona Method. In my opinion, my husband's use of Sedona Method book and the Release Technique, has resulted in increased avoidance of and disconnection from emotions. This link lays out quite nicely some of the problems inherent in these sort of techniques: (in case the link doesn't work it
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16 years ago
question lady
QuoteGhost Dancer As for your statement that I should tell her that I love her; I do tell her that I love her. I show it in my thoughts and actions everyday. You implied that I should ‘show it to her by listening without lecturing her.” Well you need to understand something; she is talking but what she is saying makes no sense to me. How do I get my point across to her, and for that matter t
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16 years ago
question lady
I see a lot of reg flags. QuoteS_Byers666 A TYPICAL DAY IN THE PROGRAM The program takes place within the community setting of the Humaniversity. It is highly structured and aims at keeping the participants as active as possible. After dinner there is an evening class followed by a happy time in the Boozeria, our famous bar-disco, where you can dance till early in the morning. It is
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