Worldwide warning to any kidney transplant hospital!!! Cult leader Dave McKay of the Jesus Christians coerses his young followers into donating their body parts! Any legitimate hospital or doctor can request my daughter's medical records which verify she has only one working kidney. McKay is dangerous. He has no morals and no problem putting his followers in grave danger for his own ends.
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I'm just reading a great book by author Al Franken from the New York Times bestseller list Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.... Going back to the Jeremy Kyle Show, did you all hear Dave starting the second part with calling my daughter a liar? On British television, in front of over a million viewers? How about that? Kate, if you are reading this, it's about kidney donation and
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Dave, what took you so long? As recently as a few days ago, you posted on your forum the presumed--by the know-it-all you--identities of several people. You listed me as Muppet. Who is Muppet? Could you be wrong about anyone, anything? Does it matter that much? It certainly doesn't to me. I spoke to your mother, Alice, and of course gave her my name. Wouldn't dream of deception. Our
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Aghast, your post is understandable and the correct way to behave towards your lovely, elderly mother. This said, the cruelest deed of all came from your brother Dave and his reaction has left many of us aghast. Why in the world would Dave want to distress his mother by pointing out to her she made a mistake? Reading to her a posting on the phone and surely slanting it with his frightful
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Zeuzsor, that is a remarkable coincidence about DM rushing to see his mother almost on the same day as you talked to her. Mother's Day and Christmas all roled into one. Great for Mama--we hope--and may God bless her. Mothers always love to see their kids. Hopefully, Dave is going to spring for airline tickets all around and every son and daughter gets to visit their parents. We are sorry
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Zeuszor and Apostate, I strongly believe motives are important in all actions we take, and we--our eclectic group of ex-JCs-- all act out of good and righteous motives, which stem from concerns for present members as well as our own need for healing. That's what this forum is all about. Healing wounds which were inflicted by a man who has no right to play such havoc with people's lives.
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My reaction to the Wall Street Journal: far too wishy-washy. There is and should never be any ambiguity about a person being coersed into donating a body part. We all know Dave is not doing it for alturistic reasons, ever. He's addicted to publicity and constantly has to find outrageous "projects" to stay in the public eye. Does Ms. Meckler realize he "preps" his peop
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Hello! Thanks very much for your report on the Kyle show. People can debate the merrit of these types of talk-shows, but they serve a very useful purpose. There's no ambiguity about who is wrong, and Dave is already raving and ranting on his forum about the negative outcome for him. The camera doesn't lie, and now we have another piece of evidence with regard to Dave's unchristian
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Great question, Hello. This is something I have been wondering myself.
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Matilda, thank you very much for bringing this new book to our attention. I knew a person who was severely harmed by this charlatan, false prophet, who calls herself "mother." That person lost a lot of money and was physically abused. dogmother
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Haven't posted for a while, but I read the forum dilligently. The Kyle Show should be interesting and I don't understand why McKay agreed to do it other than that he always craves publicity and rushes to it wherever he can get it. Apparently he pocketed $700 to buy chocolates and spam. Very nutritious, Dave, and goes well with the berries your people are languishing on while those bats
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A person's word should be accepted based on his or her reputation for truth-telling. From what I know about Quakers, they do not believe that one should trick others by making statements which are technically true, but misleading. Integrity, honesty, fair dealings ... none of these atributes pertain to Mckay. He is a predator and a liar. By defending him, :( quakerboy, you commit an injust
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Very good Malcom. Quakers also believe that one should not trick others by making statements that a technically true but misleading... And a person's word should be accepted based on his or her reptation for truthtelling... A fine "Quaker" Dave makes.
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The McKays are Australian Quakers? God help us.
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Does anyone feel that there is cultish behavior in the Bahai'i religion?
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What do you guys think! :idea: Can there be redemption for Dave? Can he turn his life around, stop manipulating others and become a compassionate, healthy human being who is prepared to compensate us for the time we wasted with him? Those long years when we should have completed our education, started families, did constructive charitable work and on and on? (He could send a check to Rick R
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As a recovering ex-member of Dave McKay's cult I have brought his connection (he uses the Quaker name and reputation to recruit and raise money for himself) to the attention of several Quaker online boards. I have never received a reply from anyone. I thought you guys didn't care and you had your heads in the sand. I found that very distressing. Please, please join forces with us. This
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Gladitzover and xenophone where are you and are you all right? Also sword and cait if you like to send me a private message, that would be great. I want to tell you that you're not alone in your grief over your son's dangerous and unfortunate involvement with DM. We have to stick together until we get the predator shut down. We are planning a summit for all ex-JCs later in the year. Th
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QuoteFran Okay, so it's clear it was actually ASH who took the stuff out of your house. Are you accusing your step-son of theft? Fran, so you are posting on this board too! Ash entering his parent's home under these circumstances is nothing but devious and mean spirited and clearly designed by Mckay to antagonize his parents. If you guys are forsaking everything why would you need
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Josh, there're several ex-members you forgot to mention in your last post, myself for one. We are planning a summit-get-together for later in the year to brainstorm on how to shut Dave up, probably an impossible task since he's super human and spends all his time going on and on, day and night, in his unique, defensive, slanderous mode, (doesn't leave him any time to do much constr
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Xenophone, thank you so much, you're speaking truth for all of us. I'm sitting here crying my eyes out and I want to shake Fran, Reino, Paul, Ulrike, Josef, all our present day misled Dave's disciple, come on, see what your hearts tells you to see, you CAN be free and it doesn't take much, email me privately, PLEASE ...
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Malcom, an award-winning producer and journalist from England was also accused by DM of hampering DM's efforts with the refugees. You're in good company!!!! The journalist had long moved-on and he was on vacation with his family at the time. This kind of DM nonsense is always good for a laugh. :lol:
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Cultmalleus, Gladitzover, Matilda and all of us ex-JCs, being on this forum is a responsible thing to do, just like Matilda said. It shows indeed we have moved on and, as I can see from our many interesting posts we live in our communities--wherever they are in the world--hard-working, with honesty and integrity. As for myself, I also live simply and in harmony with nature and the environment. My
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Oskar, I was so sharp with Malleeboy because he proposed alternative information about the JCs. I think we should leave that up to DM, he writes plenty all over the place. This forum has been a life-saver and God's-send to "us." Who are "we?" Human beings who have been severely hurt by DM, Now we are free to say what we want and need to say. Who's Malleboy but a DM
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Malleeboy,NO, you may not suggest a name! We pick our own, thank you! :(
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Hello Apostate, did you and other ex-JCs on this forum read what Dave wrote about me --craziest, new cult leader, calls himself "dogmother?" -- I can asure everyone that I'm that "cult of one" as we all tend to be after our traumatizing experience with Dave "the anointed" and clairvoyant. (Although I'm proud to be mother to a beautiful family of Huski
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Malcom and Matilda you are both so right about rank and file giving of ourselves with a pure and alteristic, God-given, humble and inspired heart. Who better to understand than WE can understand each other? There are so many talents amongst us, so much good-will. I strongly feel that we must put forth every effort to make that summit of ours. Mid-year is probably doable for most of us. Let's
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Of course you're right Apostate, it IS BORING, but the pizza-making nonsense illustrates where Dave is coming from...not from a place that can ever make sense when you examine any of his "recipes." This surely is not God-inspired writing, just another illustration of how befuddled Dave is and how self-absorbed with his role as "Master." Master of what? This is 2007, th
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Did you guys already see this..... Behold, a certain young maiden did often times and at strange hours greatly desire a pizza. This would often happen in the second or the third watch, when home delivery was not available. At such times there would be much weeping and gnashing of teeth because she could not have the desire of her heart. And so she spake thus with herself: "If I would but
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Apostate, there are many different ways to "silence" someone. I believe we are ALL taxpaying, law abiding citizens here on this forum, unlike Mckay who is always up to something that's not kosher and borders on the illegal if not criminal. We can silence him in many different ways, probably the best way to hurt him is financial with a class-action lawsuit. Someone mentioned it on t
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