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Ash, So dis is wot he says man about your family ............................................... Seriously. They are afraid of Kate and Nick (Ash's mother and stepfather) going to the media and saying that they don't think their grown son should be allowed to make such a decision because they do not respect his rights as an adult. The hospital is obviously of the opinion that
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QuoteGladitzoverDJ lacks compassion and empathy for his followers. Example: He will confiscate their travel docs. and tickets if they get out of line in a foreign country. Then he has been know to expell them from the community. Knowing very well that they will be left to sleep on the streets until they coming groveling back or demand their possessions and decide to break from the community perm
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QuoteGladitzover[ As a JC member, I only ONCE spoke to another member about how I really felt about the group. I admitted that i sometimes felt like leaving...the other person said that they often did too. It was a rare moment of honesty. The unfortunate thing was that the other member then "turned me in" and my comments were thrown back in my face in a grievance meeting. ".
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Quotecultmalleus I think there are times Dave tries to be good, but ..... ' Good people shine from afar like the peaks of the Himalayas' Dhammapada They never try to get in jail jail for publicty.
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New blood joins this (cult) earth and quikly he's subdued through constant pain disgrace the young boy learns their rules with time the child draws in this whipping boy done wrong deprived of all his thoughts the young man struggles on and on he's known a vow unto his own that never from this day his will they'll take away what I've felt what I've known n
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Dave is raning again. QuoteAny rational person knows that there ARE crazies in the world, and that the Internet gives them the opportunity to let out a lot of their craziness. I have no doubt that most of the RR'rs are not consciously thinking about some asassination plot, nor a suicide bomb to take the lot of us "nappy chappies" out. But unless they are rational enough to reco
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QuoteapostateEvidence of David McKay's CONTROL of group members from his own mouth: This is not a holiday camp. It is an army, and we're involved in a war. There will be casualties. There will be costs. And for those who survive, there will be victories. But if anyone wants to be a part of this army, then they need to get it clear that they must obey orders. SOURCE: (6 jan 2007)
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QuotecultmalleusPride. The concept of pride is taught as one of the first fundamentals to a new JC member. Taking from a humility tradition in Christianity and other religions, the idea is that we need to break our pride to become a new man/woman. This is an excellent spiritual exercise if it is within a deeply personal relationship with God, completely freely chosen. However, within the co
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QuoteJack Oskar Larmfree wrote:QuoteSure. No need to act shocked Jack but then you were never in so you must have no idea. No idea? Never in? Shocked? Sure, I'm an easy target. But I'm rarely shocked - surprised and/or dismayed, maybe. It must be the smiley! I've had some contact with the JCs, not much, as you say, but I don't see how the amount of direct and indirect co
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QuoteJack Oskar LarmBy the way, free, can you turn down the capitals? :shock: Sure. No need to act shocked Jack but then you were never in so you must have no idea.
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]Dave quoting Kevin Quote: Complete strangers know of the relationship breakdown between us because YOU tell them. Its in your writings, on your website. Dave's response The best that can be gleaned from reading our website is that there was a major split in the community in 1998 (and even then, I think it is a restricted article). So don't accuse me of making a public s
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Are you still connected to Dave? you sound al forgivng ? i thught it odd that yu were saying Joes friend was nearly killed. Do you kno him or what is thew scene
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[] On the weLikejesus site MISTER DAVE MKAY SAID 'No, I was not abused in my childhood. That's a myth that you have dreamt up yourself. And no, our kids have not been abused either. They have each grown into strong-willed, independent thinkers. We don't agree on everything, but I'm proud of each of them. I believe that their independence (as well as their self-discipline in t
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Quotea motherI hope you can overcome your prejudices of my pseudonym. I know that ‘mother’ has negative connotations in the community. However, I choose to represent myself this way because that is what I am – a female and a mother. I am also an ex-member and have recently discovered these posts. I am disappointed by the childishness of some of the comments from both sides, really. The r
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QuoteDave McKayHi Rick, Thanks for the explanation about how you view me. I think that I have explained (several times now) that I don't answer questions just because you ask them. You have made it quite clear that you don't answer questions that you don't want to answer too. So have YOU got something to hide? I find it disturbing that you have hinted in your penultimate p
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QuoteDave McKay But back to 'frank and candid'. There is some concern that I have bullied Tony into hiding some information. Tony says that he hid the information because I made threats. Now, But if it's just my 'rants' that bother you, Freebie, why do you bother going to my web site to read the latest articles? Shouldn't you have better things to do with yo
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From your webasite Dave 'In a series of question and answer sessions with Quaker quarterly meetings in Kenya, the most frequent question went something like this: "I did such and such against my neighbour and then asked for forgiveness, but he/she has refused. What do you say about that?" (These questions came after a talk by myself that did not even relate to the topic of forgi
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