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Looks like Google translate knocked back a few. In other news, Butler's Beach house flooded. His followers were likely blamed.
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3 days ago
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That's funny. From hippie cult to yuppie Indian Hindus. Sounds about right. One could not have asked for a more successful outcome for ISKCON. It's here to stay.
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3 days ago
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There is no shortage of great songs and poetry in a language we understand without religious and cultural appropriation and trying to practice a fringe Bengali Vaishnava cult. Using a phrase the swami used to use, it's an artificial imposition on the mind. Instead of learning to live with and use the environment you are in to change your thinking and adapt to ones reality, an average devotee
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3 days ago
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Absolutely. Tho still culty, Eknath Easwaran had a more rational approach to "mantra" meditation that he coined "Passage Meditation". I don't know what the details of the practice/ritual are, but the basic idea is that you choose a passage that inspires you or a prayer or some wisdom statement and you repeat it slowly several times like you would a traditional mantra, but
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3 days ago
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It's a substantially better song than any mantra one could sing, that's for sure.
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4 days ago
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I hear ya. Of course, he turned to drugs. And the sad part is that he may get a kidney and it will solve but one small physical problem for him. What he was raised like has totally trashed his brain well before he did any meth or heroin. Many Prabhupada devotees turned to heroin and drugs or ended up being pot addicts or alcohol/cigarettes etc. Why is that? Why, if the holy name is so powerful an
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4 days ago
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Yup. They would make them eat their vomit if they barfed up "Prashad," which was days old that they could not eat the first time. Kids were forced to sleep on the ground or, as my friend had on many occasions—a fucking running dryer machine to keep warm. Boys were regularly beaten, anally raped and forced to endure total nonsense lectures and classes that left many of them with the educ
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4 days ago
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ISKCON should force one of their top gurus to donate their kidney. You know, as reparations, as devotional service (giving gifts is one of the angas of bhakti!), and since they're not their body, what's the big deal? In fact, devotees who actually care should stand outside the ISKCON temple and boycott and picket till a swami emerges with a Kidney. Since their ignorant Prabhupad
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5 days ago
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Leaving this where it belongs: https://news.yahoo.com/tulsi-gabbard-running-opportunist-chief-050000403.html
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11 days ago
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I beg to differ. They are the ones who need to lawyer up. We're coming. RUN.
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16 days ago
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By the will of god, maybe Trump will grab her by the crotch as he's known to do, miraculously/immaculately impregnate her, and the sweet lord will be born a few months later to save us all from Kali Yuga: RUN
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26 days ago
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You can private message me if you have criticism of the project.
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29 days ago
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If you have been or are in this cult, do yourself and the world a favor and speak up about your time in it. Share your experiences, and help to contribute to a much-needed publication that compiles the voices of those who have been left traumatized, abused, confused, and disgusted. Now is the time to share those documents, testimonials, and experiences. You can be anonymous or use your name. It&#
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7 weeks ago
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Hi Culthusiast— I'm not sure what this incident was, but it appears to be some sort of religious discrimination/intolerance/hate crime. I'm curious what was written about Tapasya. To this very day, in 2024, Catholics, Hindus, and Muslims are constantly arguing, fighting, and trying to suggest they have the answers, while mostly being the source of division, hatred, and avoidabl
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7 weeks ago
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Sorry, wrong link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_Identity_Foundation#Criticism It doesn't matter; it looks like the Butler-bots got to it anyway.
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7 weeks ago
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From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabir#Criticism: Criticism According to an article in The Independent, a former member has described SIF's teachings as "virulently homophobic, often anti-Islamic and misogynist...they were forced to worship Butler, who is considered to be akin to a God."[10] The same article described SIF as a "secretive cult".[10] A 20
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7 weeks ago
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Good things to read so as not to dry up your common sense:
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7 weeks ago
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And here we have Tulsi Gabard partnering with the very "elite" she has so many issues with. Funny how she went from "Jai Gurudev" to failed politician, FOX news sweetheart and now Gabbard said she was partnering with X on a series of short films to share stories of people "whose voices are silenced." Wonder what voices she's gonna represent on behalf of h
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8 weeks ago
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"that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance called "faith. "" —Robert Greene Ingersol And another from a different Robert Greene: "too much respect for other people's wisdom will make you depreciate your own".
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8 weeks ago
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The term Avadhuta or "Paramahamsa." in Sanskrit is often used to (justify) odd behavior in so-called saintly figures. We've all heard the tales of assorted holy personalities that behave in seemingly unsaintly ways but still get pegged as saints. I always struggle with this aspect of these cults. They, on the one hand, ask that all manner of rules and ideologies be followed, but
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8 weeks ago
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Please note: Ex SIF Members Facebook page has at least 3 hard-core hare krishna fanatics on there. These are all folks that can dramatically derail our efforts. Please be careful where you post and who you trust. Happy 2024!
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2 months ago
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To give you an estimate of how many followers butler has (most have never met him or know much beyond some filtered idea they are fed by his disciples) you can look at Butler's wifes (ex wife?) Instagram and probably half that number. There's no question butler liked to tease and make fun of followers in front of a bunch of people at gatherings or letters he commanded be read out lou
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2 months ago
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Well, there's no question that intelligent people get involved in cults. And there's definitely no question that Tulsi gabbard is a intelligent person. There's no question that Chris Butler is an intelligent person. I don't think that all they espouse is some kind of complete and utter trash even though I may say so in hopes that people will see through much of it as being so.
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2 months ago
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Butler made us all so paranoid of iskcon that if an iskcon devotee saw us and somehow or other deciphered that we are devotees, and said "haribol!" Or "hare krishna!" to us we would literally scowl and ignore them and look the other way. Butler had a tendency to just lump everything into dualistic groups. He never bothered to try to understand that many different types of p
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2 months ago
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Yeah I'm not sure if every one of those quotes is exact, paraphrased, or simply symbolic of his attitude in many private interactions with people on-site, in letters, audio/video etc. But it sums up what we all constantly felt in his presence. There's discipline and chastisement and strong instructions, then there is being an asshole and tyrant. People stay with this man not out
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2 months ago
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Sharing knowledge and love should be free. As soon as you start attaching elaborate titles to a personality and needing excess money to satisfy them and please them and worship them, it is no longer pure. It is a transaction. So any guru that requires more from their disciples and followers and students then simply listening to them share their knowledge and love for free is a charlatan. It doesn
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2 months ago
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It's ok man. You don't need to send me the book. And no hard feelings. No hard feelings. I get your point. But you'd be hard-pressed to get much of a direct citation for shit that was done in private, often through letters or audio recordings, many if not all destroyed by now some 30 years later. I appreciate the gesture of the copy of the book, but I'm not likely goi
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2 months ago
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Yeah, you can tell by Butler's "spaced out" look that he's really deep in thought about how he can jump in on this "guru gig"... Yes, Butler was very opposed to the idea of an "appointed" guru. I remember that very vividly. Ironically, in Gaudiya Matha this was a standard practice to this very day—a guru in these Krishna cults is 9 out of 10 mostly appoi
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