There is still a document available on (Wayback Machine) about MLM in Sri Lanka, where Vijay Eswaran, Joseph Bismark's partner at QNET, siphoned off $15 million. This is a PDF. Below is the address: SriLankaReport.pdf
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For a Western believer who respects the need for e.g. Buddhist dharma or appreciates the "Christ's sacrifice", if accepting the spiritual diversity of Vaishnavism e.g. described in the Bhagavatam problematic are issues such as Radha's husband Abimana - in eternal Vrindavana, not only earthly - accepting the agreeableness of Vishnu who fulfilled the promise of his devotee wanti
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Do you think it has any value? They will put effort into writing all the points and the "guru" will graciously reply? He probably won't answer, and if he does, it will be a bunch of half-truths and manipulations with emphasis on how "unpleasant" it is for him, maybe a few threats, etc. He would probably be confronted with the evidence anyway. There are plenty of testimoni
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On one of the Polish FB profiles exposing the group, one of the members of the group living in Florida wrote that if they write a humble letter to the "guru", he may kindly explain their doubts. Good joke. The answer was that they would rather pet a dog, even an angry one, than "write a humble letter". Astounding arrogance, ignorance, stupidity, etc.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: > Cults do this all the time. A central cult figure > has some "realization" and then uses culturally > pleasant phenomenons (dovetail for the service of > the Devine) as a method for feeling spiritual. > Butler did this with his cult. He often had > devotees pair popular rock/folk song rhythms with > mantra chanting. and to this day
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Yes, it's a nice ride. None of the fanatics will delve into historical details. That it is possible that the Sumerians came from Burma and Tibet, so they were closer to Tibetan Buddhism. Then something got mixed up there, because Avesta and Zoroastranism appeared next to Vedism, but where in Zoroastrianism we have good Ahura Mazda and bad Ahriman, so good fights evil and here in Christianity
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've been saying this for a long time: > QuoteBeyond the appropriation of yoga, Hindu symbology is taken and used to make toilet seat covers. Tantra has been made into a fetish. A guru is anyone who has mastered his or her occupation. Karma is luck and fatalism. Meditation is just relaxation or at be
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Power corrupts. Apparently, power in a sect also corrupts. Interestingly, it is supported "theoretically" in the Bhagavatam - 6 canto - clearly written that assuming the role of a preacher deprives some of the brahminical achievements. When one reads the commentary on the Bhagavatam and compares it with the mood of A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami's dialogues, there is a marked difference i
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But as for mystical experiences in the Mission or practice experiences, I've had some but they weren't very "bhakti". Which may, at least within philosophy, confirm that chanting gives liberation, but not more without initiation, etc. Some of my experiences can be considered that possibly perceiving Hawaiian post-drug consciousness - dark Buddhist nothingness, feeling like a s
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bodhayan lives off rich disciples. He flies around > and gives simplistic talks about "chant and be > happy" and eats free food. Looks like that. > In the end this cult, SIF or Gaudiya Math et al, > all boils down to one thing: They think that god > came to this planet 500 yea
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The demand is rather obvious. China is too strong, it needs someone to leverage it. Preferably India because they already have more people. But then it may turn out that as India grows stronger and China weakens, India will have to be leveraged ... with China. Of course, somewhere Russia in the background. An emaciated bear but with numerous atomic claws. But for now, the first plan - the nati
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New QNET controversies in june, july 2023 in Nigeria, Togo, Sierra Leone and Ghana: Ghana: Sierra Leone: Nigeria: Togo: As you can read: arrests, prisoning members by QNET leaders, even policeman's daughter kidnapping....
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There are rumors that Chris Butler wants to step down from the role of "guru" and retire. He is supposed to point out other gurus to his flock. A teacher from the Gopinath Gaudiya Math is due to come to Honolulu, which, as you can see, is another pivot in fierce isolationism.
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Some good puranic news for Japa das Joseph Bismark and Vijay Eswaran: 28 Deadly Punishments Mentioned in Garuda Puran of Hinduism QuoteSucimukham(Tortured by needles) CRIME: Not doing good and amassing wealth by wrong doings and stealing wealth, not buying PENALTY: Stinging with nails and torturing with hunger and thirst, constantly pricked and pierced by needles .
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > QuoteBut over the course of the following week, hundreds of Muslims were slaughtered as Hindu nationalists went on a rampage that included rapes, looting and murder. Thousands of homes were destroyed. Modi was the most senior official in Gujarat at the time. > How will butler reinvent himself
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25 march 2023 Hyderabad & Bengaluru QNET offices burned, fatalities.
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That is, a tendency to reluctance to learn detailed knowledge, its basics. Inference process. In Vedic philosophy, it is pramana. So here we have the case of SIF where sheep prefer to blindly believe "guru". "Guru", as confirmed by the sheep - does not really want to enter deeply and in detail, even - if we treat them as such - myths. Not to mention "pramana", a Sans
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In the systemic approach, with the huge complexity and number of domains, in order to deal with the laws of reality, you need - keys, reductions or, inevitably, the introduction of the "observer" concept from the theory of regulation. Hence the Vedic reductionisms are interesting here. Of course, if we accept as true the Vedic statement that "there are about 30 million demigods&quo
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Krishnas, from the time of Bhaktivinode and > throughout history have a typical cult mentality > of feeling they are above the law. They feel that > the rules do not apply to them. Prabhupada wanted > to build varnashram farm communities. The major > experiments of that in the US, Canada,
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QNET-reactivation. 30 of march, 2023 QuoteED Hyderabad unit freezes Rs 137 crore of Vihaan in QNet MLM .. The building of Swapnalok in Secunderabad which housed a QNet office burned down. There are fatalities. Possible deliberate arson to get rid of witnesses and documentation. This is probably the beginning of the end for QNET.
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Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And ultimately abuse is meant to bring us down to > the lower self. so-called subconscious or shadow zone. Mathematically - solutions of neural network dynamics along the second implicit function. Energy and consciousness in sleep after being cut off from the brainstem. > Many people who enter cultic s
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Remnants of the Atharvaveda? "Visoka je gora zelena" - high green mountain? The path of the heart chakra to God - green. Relationship with a woman - the law of knowledge, the tree of good and evil. Eve tempted Adam with a sensual apple. The energy of the Garden of Eden is gone - they have focused on themselves in a sensual act and are leaving the Garden of Eden. Perhaps energy exc
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An interesting question is raised in this open letter: An open letter to my parent’s guru QuoteBut I see through your mask. I know the truth. You’re a fraud, a charlatan, a rogue, a scoundrel. You know it too. That’s why when the authorities came knocking on your door in 1995, you immediately rolled over and showed them your soft belly, crying that the world was poisoning you and you we
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Yes, you are right RUN FOREST RUN that the history of the Gaudiya movement is as controversial and debatable as history. I talked to the sanyasis and they admit that some elements are difficult to accept, difficult to prove factually, they are even contradictory and can only be treated symbolically. Yes, these are the methods of building religious movements. Designations of a new religious gro
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QuoteFriedrich W. Nietzsche He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bhaktivedanta always favored those who were giving > the most money and making converts. The list goes > on. All modern krishna cults center around the > ability to start new temples, create more converts > and give off the vibe of opulence. Because, > Bhagavan, you know... In general, whe
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it's good that there are those who remember. Because watching the FB / Meta profile of Tulsi Gabbard, one has the impression that there is no shortage of amateurs of cheap lies and idiots.
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Butler kept people close to him and posted them as > being pure devotees or important if they gave > money, promoted a political agenda that bolstered > his ideology and were natural-born preachers. As can be read in Hari-Bhakti-Vilasa, Vishnu does not accept money. > Prabhupadas' naive
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RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting text. It overlooks, however, the fact that British culture is a combination of Romanized Normans and Celts, said to have come from the barrow region in southern Germany between the Bohemian Forest and the Rhine. Celtic society consisted of three strata (priests, warriors and farmers) - so there
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A reminder of the story of Bogdan and Malgorzata, the death of their child and court cases. Bogdan is also dead. 2015: QuoteTheir child had died before, now they could have two more. Parents are followers of Hare Krishna The trial of Malgorzata and Bogdan N., accused of extreme neglect of their children, has started. Piotrus and Wojtek were hospitalized in a state of complete exhaustion. Ea
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