Carl Urbina and lobo, Get in touch with anyone who has given them money. Find out whether they have heard anything of late. I am checking here with peeps I have not seen for a few years. They all have heard something and it all helps. They are expecting all to stop chasing. I prepared to chase them up but will need help with info. James
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Suspicious, Stay that way!! Yes, he is American he had a scheme called the "Abundance Ray" he has not used this name for some time, as far as I can tell. There is very little info on Carl Jensen and I guess that intentional. No one I know has ever seen a photo of him. I know people who have meet him and and spent time with him sadly because they trusted him no photos where ever
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Last I heard Carl was staying at the New World Hotel in Hong Kong but that was a few years back now. I logged on expecting to read he had been caught and his trade scams brought down. I can't believe he is still going. I last had dealings with him in 2007. I invested a small amount with him only Au$5000.00 after being introduced to his scam through a friend when I realised it was a scam
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