Anyone heard anything good or bad about Tony Parsons ?
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Haha :) I had never heard of this guy before but thank you so much for the links! Surely he can't be serious? "There is a type of brown etheric brown blobs that fly about policing the sky above us. Normally, when low down, they fly at about twenty-to-thirty miles an hour, but when they get agitated they go into a type of turbo-drive zipping across the sky in seconds. They are the
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Thanks Corboy. Interesting read!
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Hi Autumn, Thanks again for sharing your experiences. I have no doubt having read the entire of this thread that CH is a fraud. However it is my personal belief that he also has psychic ability. This actually makes him more reprehensible as most spiritual systems take the view that if you have done some sort of training to the point where you gain some power "siddhis" etc then to
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Hi Autumn, This is very interesting, thank you. I know the martial artist who is now quite well known. (who trained with CH at that time) and he still occasionally mentions the "Tibetan Style" he trained in with CH. I believe he gave up the training because he started to become a bit freaked out by the weird psychic experiences that started occuring as a result of this practice. (rea
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Hi Disconnect. Thank you for sharing that. In principle I wouldn't object to men, who don't know allready, learning to dress a bit better, improve personal hygeine, body language etc and gain the confidence to go up to a woman and say "Hi" and begin a friendly conversation. What I don't like is the use of NLP, Hypnosis, Psychology etc to seduce the woman, using very
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Thanks for that. That is an interesting article. I agree. If a person has to essentially fake a persona or use a routine to succeed with women it is firstly reenforcing the idea that the "real" you is not good enough and thus deepens lack of self esteem, it then fosters contempt for the women who fell for something "fake". Not a healthy combination of traits. It's int
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I was watching "Dragons Den" on BBC2 the other night and was amazed to see the pickup artist Richard La Ruina (Gambler) pitching the Dragons for money to expand his pickup empire! He admitted to annual revenues of £540K ! This just illustrates what a money spinner this type of training is. He is the founder of PUA Training which offers courses of the type allready mentioned in this thre
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Hi littlefisherman, I would completely agree that Falun Gong is a destructive cult. Please do not confuse Falun Gong with Chi Kung (QiGong) Chi Kung ( probably best translated as "energy work" ) is a relatively modern generic term for a number of different schools of energetic exercise. Chi Kung can be divided in to five main schools. Taoist, Buddhist, Medical, Martial and Confucian.
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I am not suggesting that this man was necessarily using the techniques we are discussing in this thread, however it never ceases to amaze me the lengths some men will go to, in order to trick women in to having sex. Check this out. It's also a rather damning confirmation about the decline of the British education system!
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Thanks for that Corboy, I will check out that article. Sounds interesting. Anyone watched Antichrist yet? Now there's a cautionary tale for manipulative men trying to play mind games with damaged women! :-) It also confirms my deepest suspicions about the effectiveness of CBT ;-)
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I have heard very bad things about Geshe Kelsang Gyatso (New Kadampa Tradition)
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An interesting article about some of the techniques used to manipulate and control the public is: "The Battle for your Mind" By Dick Sutphen Although I dont agree with everything he says, its a good overview of some of the techniques out there. Some of these are being used within the methodologies of the seduction community. I am sure many on this forum will be familiar with
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Hi Christa, Despite the fact he started "the community" Ross Jeffries' stuff is regarded by that community as being outdated and relatively unsophisticated when compared to what has come since. (Mystery etc) however the methodology is sound and based well and truly on NLP and Ericksonian hypnosis (conversational hypnosis) To me the clip seems genuine (all the correct trance i
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Heres an example (one of many) from a PUA forum discussing the use of NLP age regression techniques as a seduction tool: And here is an article illustrating what happens when that kind of technique goes wrong in a stage hypnosis setting.
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Hi Stoic, I remember watching that episode of Louis Theroux when it screened and being really saddened by what I saw. As you say a complete lack of concern for the target. One of the major concerns about stage hypnosis in general is that the hypnotist knows nothing about the history of the person they are hypnotising. That girl might have had an underlying psychological condition that woul
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Thanks for that Corboy, Thats really interesting. There are obviously a lot of creeps out there! Yup that site does exist: I wonder how many of the guys listed on there are part of "the Game"
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Here are some clips of some of the "Gurus" of "The Game" I think this is useful because it will educate people as to some of the techniques being used so you can spot them, and thus avoid them! Those with NLP, Hypnosis knowledge, spot the hidden manipulation techniques being used on the audience. Its also pretty funny to read some of the comments written under the cl
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I am sure members of this forum are familiar with this, but if not, a very accessable book is: Robert B Cialdini "The psychology of influence" (rev ed. 1998) Also with regard to cold reading a very good read (a bit more full on) is: P. Ekman "Telling Lies" (rev ed. 2002) These both illustrate certain techniques used within the seduction community, by BK and many
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Hi, Thank you Anticult for your comments. With regards the history of NLP training. I believe Bandler and Grinder started of doing 10 day trainings in the early material in the 1970's. Then, so I heard, they later set the standard to being 21 days for "practitioner" training. This I believe was so that the psychology / therapy students could use the course as an accreditation to
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QuoteCarlos B Your NLP training consisted of "21 client contact hours" over a 6 month period Sorry that should have read 21 contact days
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QuoteStoic Hi Sparrow, (Incidentally I noted a 'Freudian slip', if you believe in the freudian concept the 'unconscious', in your addressing deren84 as derren84 ;-) ) . Ha! Yes indeed :-) QuoteStoic I read a few of the first NLP books in the 80's and have a few of Michael L Hall's unread on my bookshelves. I concluded, with this cursory reading, that NLP do
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QuoteCarlos B (yes modelling does have its flaws and areas where it does not work but most of the time its extremely useful) Right, so this is where you get to be like Einstein - by modelling his behaviour and becoming a great mathematician. Grow up sparrow and please realise you are talking to adults. I am not a specialist and most of what you are rambling about is just so familiar because
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QuoteCarlos B Sparrow - I don't have too much time now but really, "communication occurs on many levels" - why didn't I think of that? You say one thing with words, another with voice tone, another with body language etc - it's called human communication for God's sake. Carlos Im not quite sure what your point is here. Of course its human communication, that was t
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"Meta" as used by the NLP community (comes from the greek word) usually means something that is "beyond" or "adjacent" to something else. In NLP a lot of jargon uses the word meta: Meta communication Meta model Meta mirror Meta programme etc.... A lot of companies that sell NLP training use the word in their title or material to link to some of the e
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Hi derren84 My original point in posting this was to point out that: A) Certain people in the seduction community, who are successful in using these techniques, are behaving in a way that is at best abusive and disrespectful towards their victims, and at worst quite possibly criminal. B) Certain people in the seduction community are taking advantage of damaged, insecure people (in selli
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Ah heres some info on his trip to the USA. Derren Brown- Messiah
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Very good point on cold reading. Here in the UK we have a psychological illusionist called Derren Brown. This guy is damn good at cold reading. In one of his shows he went to the USA (where all good UK TV entertainers go once they become too recognisable over here!) and did the new age circuit. He firstly pretended to be psychic and had the sedona lunatic community creaming themselves wi
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Hi Anticult, Yup I agreee with you there. Many of those who hang around the seduction community can't use these techniques (or not very well) and so luckily are damaging only themselves. Unfortunately some who persist with it, do get rather good at it, and then they are not only damaging themselves but their victims as well. Its these ones that get good that then start assisting o
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Many years ago I was attending a training in some fairly high level NLP and Hypnosis. The instructor, who is very well known, mentioned this guy who was using these types of techniques to seduce women and have sex with them. I was young, single and thus intrigued! and so I began my journey in to the bizarre underworld that is "the seduction community" The mans name was Ross Jef
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