Absolutely, Gary looked around and realized there was a lot of money to be had by kissing up, maybe he will end up the Bishop of Brazil. Could happen. Probably will happen. lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apostle Dog Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > it is very natural for the Living Word
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it is very natural for the Living Word Fellowship to move toward the Catholic church, after all, the Catholic church has always believed that the Pope is "Christ in the Earth." Vicar of Christ, that is what it means, In place of Christ, or Anti-Christ. That is what the members always considered John, and the John and Marilyn, the Christ in the Earth, or the Antichrist. This is just a
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You all know what the shame of it all is, when all that which Gary prophesies don't come true, they will just act like he didn't say it, and the next big word will come out and, it won't happen either. Nothing new under the sun. Maybe the LWF will just go out and roam about in the desert for another 40 years, Then they can boot out a bunch of Nephilim, and about 45 years from
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You know, on just about every subject, whether you are talking about the meaning of bible books, chapters, verses, or even words, there is always somebody that sees it another way. I was skipping around the internet the other day and happened to come up Nephilims and I saw another version of it I had never heard before. The idea there was that the Nephilim were the good guys, they were God'
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Somehow I pushed the wrong key and got on the wrong forum. That was supposed to go on the forum above yours, so this Gary i was talking about isn't the same Gary that you all know and love. Just disregard that post if you will, the one that was dated May 23, at 5:30 AM
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Two of my favorite scriptures. It looks like they happen at the same time. I am no longer a pre-trib imortality Walkite, I'm not even one that believers you have to put on immorality to become non-religious. (notice the spelling, I said IMMORALITY not immortality.) 1st corinthians 15:51-53 Where O Death is Your Victory? …52 in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
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now I know why my ex-Living Worder new friends, and even the old friend that told me I had to get the REVELATION of it, I was trying to find out where in the bible the manifestation of the sons of God, actually become immortal was in the bible other than Romans 8, to see if there was anything backing up that they are immortal and then have to go out and do wanders and ministry and take over the w
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Larry Bobo hit the nail right on the head. That is very true. I think that Living Word Fellowship was and probably stil; is, very similar in thinking as the name it and claim it bunch, in that they believe that you can have anything you can think of, if you just do the right incantations, if you can blab it, you can grab it, if you just have enough faith for it, if you can demand it and believe
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I decided to try to find out if there was anything in the bible that would back up the idea that there would ever be a manifestation of sons of God, meaning that somebody would become immortal before the last trump, well, it was just a thing I was looking at to see if there was anything at all in the bible that pointed to that, and I happened to write an email to that Sons of God group, the one t
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I wish they would APPROPRIATE some new words, I am so tired of hearing APPROPRIATE.
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Maybe Gary will redistribute HIS money and give it back to the people he conned it out of. That would be good for his soul.
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I don't think I noticed any leap frogging going on in the Walk, but I did see a lot of bushwhacking of the older generation that had served the younger. I guess maybe Gary & Marilyn leapfrogged over JRS as they turned against everything they were agreeing so much with when they were trying to get John's place. I bet leapfrogging over and supporting a communists new world ord
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I am reading that right now. It's very interesting and also informative. I am not deep into it yet, but it is answering some questions that I have had. One thing I think of, and remember I did say I was not into it much yet, but one of the Latter Rain principles that was rejected by the AoG and others, was the idea that one would just lay hands on somebody and impart the Holy Spirit, o
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I have to agree with Lily Rose, having a "spiritual father" (*I would rather call it a mentor) which is basically some older guy that you can go to for advice is very nice, I had a couple of them myself, and i did nothing on my own, BACK THEN. That is not necessary to have a walk with God, in fact, you are supposed to grow up spiritually. I'll put it this way, you are not l
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I have mun into a few good pastors since I left Living Word. It seems to me that one of the traits that is most common among them, is they are volunteer pastors, usually called LAY pastors. By Lay pastor it usually means not a graduate of divinity school, (which means they don't really hold the slant and twist of any paricular school's version of theology) and the most important common
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If Gary Hargrave and the people that are in the Walk today, the ones that witnessed the madness all that time actually believe,,,, never mind, it really isn't worth commenting on. I guess some people prefer to live in an imaginary world, just play pretending their way through life, maybe it is preferable for some people. If they are content siting around congratulating themselves f
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One thing I have noticed is that every now and then I run into a church that has some sort of business the church operates. Most of the time, but not always, there are people from the church that work there, for nothing of course, much like Living Word Fellowship did when they operated the sweatshop sawmill which paid room and board and way, WAAAYYYYY below minimum wage. I was just wondering i
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Well, I guess I am the only one that is going to post here for a while. I hope it wasn't me that ran everybody away. I hope everybody was not raptured even if you don't believe it and I was left behind, I would hate to be the only one to fight the antichrist hordes. Just thinking out loud here. I think eventually Hargrave is going to wonder off and not take part in the misleadership
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Well, I don't know, you all are missing. Now either the rapture came, and , no you guys are Walk folk you, well, maybe you have become the immortals and are going around toppling governments and banking systems and taking over Hollywood and, and and.. Or, you are upset because somebody said you aint talking about anything interesting.... Maybe you are gathered in the holy land talkin
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Bob Mumford and Derik Prince repented of and distanced themselves from the shepherds movement in the early 1980s, when did the Hargraves pick it up? Below, you can pull it up and read all about it. They just modeled their thing after something that was already pretty much tried and rejected by others. Shepherding Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Shepherding Movement was a
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in fact, it is really silly to consider what became of the Living Word Fellowship under the Hargraves, an actual extension of the Living Word Fellowship. There was an awful lot of messed up elders in the one under JRS, not just the ones on the outskirts that were not commissioned by JRS himself, but also among those that JRS knew about and had something to do with commissioning. I admit that the
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Maybe they will just close it on down, since they don't really think they have anything important to share with the rest of the world. I remember being in a Living Word church when somebody brought in some new people from their job and the church deliberately "blew them out" right off the bat, talking some of the craziest, spaciest things they could think of, they knew that stuff w
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My biggest question is this: How much was this "shepherding" mess that Marilyn and Gary were so much into, a natural growth from what John was into behind the scenes, and how much was it just another total flip flop of Gary and Marilyn, such as the whole Catholicism thing. I know that lots of the stuff that the Hargraves got into after John died was something they really had in their
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I am really sorry that Living Word Fellowship turned out to be such a huge cult and such a huge misfire, John Robert Steven's biggest mistakes was A- marrying Marilyn, B-getting such a big head and needing praise to the point of placing the kiss ups into POSITIONS of authority so that they would fulfill his own prophecy of his life's work and ministry being run into the ground by a youn
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While I have said that I don't think JRS INTENTIONALLY taught anything false, in that he believed in my opinion what he taught, I do think that he used every trick in the book to play on the stupidity of a bunch of burned out people that were often without father figures, or were often from broken homes, and he got them to look to him as if he were their savior, or at least didn't do or
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I know one of the current members, he was in the church in my house for a little while, before that he was in Frangepane's church in Detroit, and now he is in the one in Colarado. I know for certain he doesn't take what Hargrave says seriously. Nor did he take was Marilyn said seriously, I don't know if she did much talking, I figure if you heard Hargrave, you heard Marilyn. But a
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I think they are already mixing the cya-nade, they are gonna catch the tail of that comet any time now. BOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SNL: Sunday's Nonstop Laughter > > "Today, Step Into His Glory" > May 1, 2016 > > > y-step-into-his-glory/ > > (I am not making this up.) "The oneness we have
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I think Larry Bobo said it perfectly. I can sure not add anything to that.
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Speaking of palm readers, one time I had my palm read by a waitress in a Chinese restaurant and you know what? That lady told me EVERYTHING about myself, what I had done, what I was doing at the moment, probably a little about what I might do in the future, i don't think she said much about the future, but she certainly did tell EXACTLY what what had gone on and what was going on. In fact,
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