This is a long interview of Trinity by Lorna Li. I believe this was recorded a few months ago. Trinity says he is here to create a movement. He blames people who have left his group, he claims those who leave him have personal failings, that they are unable to stand strong. Trinity claims critics are "shooting daggers", that they are filled with anger and resentment. He att
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Trinity encouraged people to register for his ayahuasca retreats in Peru to occur this May. He said customers should make their travel arrangements right away, and that there would be no refunds available for these sessions, since there is not much time. Now Trinity says there will not be any May sessions, they will happen in July or August. Trinity still owes about 18 people for retreats
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Paul Dean incorporated Oklevueha Native Americsn Church of Missouri Inc. on April 25, 2013. As a branch of James Warren Mooney's group. On June 16, 2015, Dean changed the name of his business to New Haven Native American Church. June 21, 2015, Trinity de Guzman was spiritually adopted by Dean, declared a member of New Haven, and thanked for his donation. November 6, 2015, Trinity an
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This is what I keep in mind when looking at a possibly problematic group or leader: Ideally Paul H Dean would meet these signs: QuoteTen signs of a safe group/leader. A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive. A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regar
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Paul H Dean has several corporations in Ava, MO, two are active, one is dissolved. *Greenies Company, for profit *New Haven Native American Church, active nonprofit Listed in corporation records for New Haven Native American Church: Dean, Paul "Man Found Standing" Cluff, Justin "Chief Zerotize" Crookston, Bevonne "Pahamay" Cluff, Jean M *Sacred Way Lodg
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Tips to Drug Enforcement Administration: Local and state health departments can be kept informed. This might involve concerns about safe preparation of food, proper care of animals, needed licenses for massage therapists etc. It would be interesting to get the actual drugs tested too. IRS tips might be helpful. Might be worth sending in complaint to FDA also.
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Trinity and Marc first connected up with Paul Dean / New Haven Native American Church. Paul Dean's church is one of many fake online churches that require paid nembership and that make false claims. James "Flaming Eagle" Mooney, Oklevueha Native American Church, the master of this kind of con, found out about this. He told Trinity and Marc that they needed to leave Paul Dean and
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Jenann, since Paul Dean is so active, do you want to start a new thread on him, so we can make it easier to find info and discussion specific to him? He's definitely earning his own thread.
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Their website is once again up. I don't know why it has been up and down lately. Their Peru retreat will include a Kambo ceremony. This involves poisoning people. Trinity's claims are not backed up by medical science, or even an understanding of human anatomy. QuoteFor those who feel the call, the first ceremony will consist of a Kambo session. This medicine will be served by the
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Posted last night on a Facebook group Ayahuasca Healings is NOT legal: QuoteDylan Ayahealings Hello everyone, First of all I want to thank you for the received responses to what I’ve posted here and for the meaningful dialogues that have taken place. I’ve done a lot of thinking about this situation, about my position with Ayahuasca Healings and about my responsibilities in correctin
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Dylan Guss has just announced that he is publically disassociating himself from Ayahuasca Healings. I don't know that Dylan is fully free yet, since he plans to possibly stay involved with Trinity, in an "advisory role". Yet this is very hopeful news. Dylan in his statement makes it clear that Trinity de Guzman and Marc Roland Shackman are the founders of Ayahuasca Healings.
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Supposedly one of the two upcoming retreats in Pisac, Peru is May 29 - June 5. But there are security warnings up concerning that time in Peru, including from the government of Canada. "Demonstrations and protests are common throughout the country and may increase in the period surrounding the second round of presidential elections scheduled for June 5, 2016.".These protests can tur
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dabcult Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have contacted various Peruvian agencies in Peru > and Canada > I hope they arest him and trow him out of Peru . ------ This is wonderful, thank you for making those phone calls to the authorities.
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QuoteDylan Ayahealings Here's the story on that. When Trinity tried to enter the US via Canada, they found film equipment in his car, suspecting him of entering the US to work which is not allowed. They searched online for his birth name (Christopher de Guzman) but could not find anything. Finally they found a card in his wallet which said Trinity, and after searching for Trinity de Guzman,
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Excellent coverage by local press: QuoteExperiences Near Mineral on Hiatus, Moves Retreats to Peru Church of Ayahuasca Healings: Official Website Shut Down, Phone Turned Off, Retreats Canceled The Church of Ayahuasca Healings sprang on the local scene late last year and quickly managed to catch the attention, and lots of ire, from locals who questioned their motives. Now, the supposed ch
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Trinity has the website back up Main focus in promoting upcoming events in Peru. Although he also features video testimonials from people who attended the Washington events. In my opinion, these people were exploited for profit. The website still lists the same team members. I don't know if they are in Peru with him. Dylan Guss, the 23 year old logistics guy, says he is in Peru.
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jenann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > New Haven/Paul Dean aka "Man Found Standing" has > purchased over 400 acres in Douglas County, > Missouri at varies locations to use as retreats > and such all being "Sacred." Money is coming from > somewhere???? ----- I wonder how much he charges for memberships. Sounds like he i
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Dylan Guss is said to be only 23 years old. He is good salesperson, comes across as a genuine and kindhearted young man, customers say he convinced them to hand over their hard earned money. Also Marc Shackman tells people that he is involved in Buddhism, that was taken as meaning that he would be trustworthy.
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When Trinity was banned from USA, the group needed to tell customers right away, but they did not. Dylan Guss is now acting as the front man for the group. They are taking money from customers now for Peru retreats. Even though they haven't yet dealt with the damage they did in Washington state. I doubt we have seen the last of Trinity. Unless there has been a power struggle and he has
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This is from a public conversation on the Ayahuasca Healings is NOT legal Facebook page: QuoteDylan Ayahealings: I expect everyone to be fully reimbursed and us being out of the red within several months. Bruce: Sounds like you need a forensic accountant to assess how so much money has vanished so quickly.
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This is posted on Facebook, April 2016, on the Ayahuasca Healings is NOT legal page. Dylan is Dylan Guss, one of the top three people, he runs support, funds, etc. Dylan is defensive here, trying to control the narrative, and putting a spin once again on events. This is also an ad for their upcoming retreats. This is an attempt to manage their brand. QuoteHello everyone, This is Dyl
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From Trinity's Twitter account, 2011: QuoteTrinitydeGuzman @ravenstarre I love you beyond words can express <3 19 May11 from Twitter Web Client
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QuoteNot long after moving to San Diego, Trinity met his first mentor and multimillion-dollar business owner, Raven Starre. Raven is one of the top 10 female network marketers in the world, has interned for several billionaires ... Raven had been a “follower” of Trinity on Twitter and when she recognized him at an event, she immediately invited him to come and do a live in mentorship; where sh
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Trinity has acknowledged Raven Starre as a mentor.
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Trinity de Guzman attended his first LGAT (large group awareness training) when he was 18 years old. It was a high pressure, classic, manipulative LGAT. He did other trainings too. He claims he can "manifest" anything and that he has the best of "intentions". He was workers listen to hours of sales instruction tapes. Trinity, Marc, and Dylan seem to be living in thei
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A former member says Trinity and Marc patronized and shamed people. "They actively fostered secrecy and lack of transparency". Marc appointed himself chief medicine man and tried to tightly regulate workers. Marc claimed that he could judge a worker's "high or low vibration" and that he would restrict their behavior accordingly. Marc expected workers to follow his 6 or
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Dylan Guss now claims that the Lewis county prosecuter's office "gave their approval". before Ayahuasca Healings operations started up in Washington state. This is not true. What did happen is the prosecuter expressed his opinion to the media. Dylan is now using that quote and spinning it to claim the prosecuter directly approved AH. Dylan characterizes he, Trinity, and Marc
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QuoteMy credit union is still processing my claim but the assistant manager states that I should have my funds returned ($3500.00) in a few days. I did the math on the 'retreats' and I figure that Trinity et al raked in at least $400,000.00 12 people per retreat at 1500 a piece is $18,000 per retreat. 4 retreats per month is 72,000. Retreats were booked from January through August. 8 mo
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QuoteThe irony of how-to-get-rich programs is that they tend to make the promoters rich rather than the students. This was allegedly the case with a Surrey father and his two sons who paid just over $74,000 for a program on how to become a millionaire offered by "financial freedom" guru T. Harv Eker and his North Vancouver company, Peak Potentials Training Inc. Raymond Roch and hi
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The "4-day personal development retreat in the mountains" Trinity talks about here was a large group awareness training run by the scamster T. Harv Eker in Canada. Info on these manipulative trainings : QuoteYears ago, when I was 18, I realized that the old-fashioned college thing wasn’t for me. I could see that there was something so much greater waiting for me, even though I h
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