TPWOC sermon for Sunday Aug. 30th How Mike Villamor can gain his promised land is now online at TPWOC home web site. Mikes promised land is waiting for him,Mike is licking his chops over it! Mike believes that it is Gods will that we all experience prosperity. All you have to do is believe in the Abraham Covenant just like all the rest of the false word-faith prosperity teachers.Mike wants to mov
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Well said Ring Bearer. I guess I had seen what you are talking about but have never been able to articulate it. It is funny how much freer I am to love my family, spend time with them, and accept them as they are. I am walking in a greater understanding of what true love and unity are. Loving others differences and accepting them as a necessary, vital part of God's kingdom. Not everyone
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Sistersoap, That was the gist of my post. The double gist was I entered the Theimepark on behalf of others whom I cared a great deal for knowing the stuff was brainwash especially after reading Integrity of God. My backdrop gave the reason. My findings in 1 John and other scriptures I will discuss, do not discount understanding the scriptures piece by piece but also lend support to not miss
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Wow, sure has been a while since I have posted…. It amazes me to see the momentum that has been gained in confronting and exposing this whole thing… its like a heavy truck slowly rolling down hill, you can’t stop it; it just keeps moving… and as my friend Bill Simon and I have said since July 7, 2007, “we can’t throw a pebble in a puddle and cause a title wave and then say look what we did”… mean
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Recent teaching from Dave 13 August, 2009 Of Microscopes and "Honest to Whom"? Someone recently told me that there were no grounds for unity between us because of what he called my "honest to whom concept". It bothered me that this person was making such a fundamental judgment against me on the basis of something that is, at least at this stage, sheer gossip.
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Prebound quote:" I simply thought some folks would like to know the man died. I have no idea about the validity of his biography. It came directly from the Berachah website obit; I wouldn't waste either time or money to pursue the veracity (or lack thereof) of those points." Truthtesty: That should tell you something don't you think? After all these years and Berachah stil
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QuotezeebrookI am with you Sistersoap on Truthtesty's less that honest responses. Why is it important about the false impression you make Truthtesty is because in your post of November 8, 2007 you proclaimed "I am an expert in the truth" yet you deliberately obscure it here. As to Dr Wall's thesis I do not believe you played any role. By the way the challenge you put to S
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QuotezeebrookI am with you Sistersoap on Truthtesty's less that honest responses. Why is it important about the false impression you make Truthtesty is because in your post of November 8, 2007 you proclaimed "I am an expert in the truth" yet you deliberately obscure it here. Truthtesty: What less that honest post? What? Also? Now it's important just because I said it? Well
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I am with you Sistersoap on Truthtesty's less that honest responses. Why is it important about the false impression you make Truthtesty is because in your post of November 8, 2007 you proclaimed "I am an expert in the truth" yet you deliberately obscure it here. As to Dr Wall's thesis I do not believe you played any role. By the way the challenge you put to Sistersoap to
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I believe the purpose of Summer Jubilee is multifacited. First and foremost is to bring people to Christ. However, when trudging into the community with the message of Good News, and the past forum has been to provide children "in need" with school supplies, one needs to be careful and must deliver the "promised or anticipated" goods. Let me tell you why this is profoun
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Some observations about Summer Jubilee based on recent posts: 1. Who cares about "the name of the bride of Christ"? Turning Point has a bad habit of navel gazing, of being concerned about how they're looking to others rather than just being true to the Word (without tooting their own horn about it). Let Christ take care of issues of redemption, as we look to and follow Him. It&#
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To zeebrook: I am not going to keep going in circles with you on this. I asked why you did not question and you dodged why you didn't. The reason that I asked was because you did not ask orange for information that he could "prove". Ok? Youi have a relaxed standard for yourself for proof but then? For me? You would try to restrict my speech altogether unless I have proveable ev
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TPWOC sermon for Sunday Aug.9 Breaking Point: Crisis is the seed of Greatness part 2 by False Apostle Mike(I never panic and I am always prepared for my crisis)Villamor is now online at TPWOC home web site!! Mike says that great moves of God bring great acts of persecution. TPWOC is enduring New Testament persecution. Whenever God is moving powerfully for Mike the devil is moving powerfully! Mik
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Braveheart my sentiments exactly, the church is sleeping and hiding behind the "lets just all be in unity" theme. My question is what unity does light have with darkness. If a people who call themselves brothers are involved in a witch hunt are they truly being brothers? 1john says if you dont love your brother you dont love God the truth is not in you and your father is the devil. My e
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QuoteWorship_BigThe ship that once was considered the pride of the RLc line is sinking. Captain Tony has issued the abandon ship but knowing that there are not enough lifeboats he has called a "meeting" supposedly to take place at a colleagues’ church and invited a select few for a time of reconciliation and worship. While this event, on the surface, may look like a step in the righ
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The ship that once was considered the pride of the RLc line is sinking. Captain Tony has issued the abandon ship but knowing that there are not enough lifeboats he has called a "meeting" supposedly to take place at a colleagues’ church and invited a select few for a time of reconciliation and worship. While this event, on the surface, may look like a step in the right direction lets
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In the end the only real authority on the subject of unhealthy church leadership and the right of the sheep to question authority must come from the Bible. I found the following with the scripture used in the proper context. If there are members of the TPC congregation looking at this thread, please consider the following carefully in relation to leadership and pastoral staff at TPC. TPC is a
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I liked Praise Chapel. But lets say Praise Chapel did noT like me..... I was reading all the post about Praise Chapel and I have to write this. i want to tell my story because it sounds a lot like the stories I have read. First off pastorJW i want to inform you that the abuse that i went through did occur at a Praise Chapel affiliated with Rancho Cucumonga CA or in other words Pastor Larry Nev
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The following is from the link posted in the previous post. Sound familiar to anyone at all? Based upon my own experiences, I have made the following additional observations about unhealthy and abusive church situations: 1. Institutional Pride: The system is never the problem. If something goes good, the system gets credit for it. But if something goes bad, the system is not at fault, bu
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Checks on Power and Authority in the New Testament Summary of an article by Dr. Harold Bussell, author of the book, Unholy Devotion, Why Cults Lure Christians. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are two problems with accountability in the church: one is that people fail to be accountable to others. Another is that when people are accou
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Checks on Power and Authority in the New Testament Summary of an article by Dr. Harold Bussell, author of the book, Unholy Devotion, Why Cults Lure Christians. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are two problems with accountability in the church: one is that people fail to be accountable to others. Another is that when people are accou
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Matthew 18 is a talk about the local church, and the importance of “CHURCH DISCIPLINE” but Matthew 18:15-17. Jesus says this, “if your brother sins go and show him his fault in private. A few listens to you (that is if he repents,) you won your brother. But he doesn't listen to you take one or two more with you so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
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Perhaps those former members of Radiant Life Church who are blessed with the gift of intercessory prayer could pray in unity that the Jezebel Spirit that seems to have gained influence with Pastor Tony be cast out. RLC and TPC are infected by a common Jezebel spirit and it will take unity to send it packing. God has heared our cries and knows of our concerns, unfortunately, our timing is no
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Why do we need to forgive the unrepentent? We forgive to be free, to be liberated from the destructive power of anger and resentment. Why did the older brother of the prodigal son need to forgive not only his brother but his Father as well? Something to ponder on this wonderful day we all get to worship our Lord, the savior and redeemer of us all. Refuse to continue being a victim of t
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Haha. . . I just found this hiding in one of my folders and thought I'd bring it up: ___________________________________________________________________ One Eighty Intern Program VOW OF NOBILITY As a prospective One Eighty Intern in 2006, I, ______, vow to pursue and maintain throughout my internship the high standard appropriate to a minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, specifically
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QuoteTPC loves to talk about UNITY. Anyone who has questions or concerns are labeled as "divisive", "trouble makers", "weak in the flesh", "rebellious", "complainers" or, worse, "unsaved". This is so true. It's odd, but once I was talking to someone 'discipled' by Cyndi. She said that Cyndi knew there were unsaved people
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QuoteForgiveness_101Dear Walter Martin, What I think everyone is trying to convey here is that much of us had "open minds" at one time and we went in researching with open minds. What we want to convey here is that to say you are not for TPC but not against it is like saying " i am not for or against taxs" please explain what you mean in a little more detail, but i underst
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Dear Walter Martin, What I think everyone is trying to convey here is that much of us had "open minds" at one time and we went in researching with open minds. What we want to convey here is that to say you are not for TPC but not against it is like saying " i am not for or against taxs" please explain what you mean in a little more detail, but i understand if you would wai
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I found this court document. It's the suit that was filed against the church. http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/11/14/RadiantLife.pdf Here is basic jist of what it says Plaintiff states the following facts regarding their relationship with defendants and each 14 of them, hi 1998, Plaintiff committed to attending Radiant Life Church on Sunda> mornings regularly and tithing.
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Miki and I would like to invite all the members of the TPC threads to join with us in a day of fasting and prayer this Sunday for Turning Point Church, its pastoral staff, the elders and deacons, and most importantly the congregation. We all have friends and family at Turning Point and we need to pray in unity that our Father in Heaven will open eyes, hearts, and minds to the truth. Each of us
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