Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: October 15, 2018 03:19AM
FROMSOUTHCHICAGO, I'm glad you asked about Marilyn's funeral because it's something I have thought of posting about on here for some time. I was there and it was very, very odd. One, we had to pay to attend. No kidding. We were told we had to register if we wanted to attend the funeral, and pay $40 per person to "cover costs". I found this extremely bizarre and supremely tacky. Who charges people to attend a funeral?? Especially considering the Hargraves have a ton of money.
Two, besides Marilyn's immediate family (Rick, Marti, Gary, and granddaughter Kaylin) the leaders/shepherds from all of the churches were a part of the processional and recessional in the church, and then at the graveside they had all of the chairs surrounding the immediate area cordoned off. Only VIP were allowed to sit in the chairs, and they had someone placed at the entrance of this sectioned off area to allow or disallow people to sit in the seats. Even though there were a ton of empty seats, the rest of us minions were given standing room only OUTSIDE of the roped off area. In typical TLWF fashion it was very exclusive. It felt very uncomfortable.
Three, Rick did a "Twenty-One Gun Salute" for Marilyn with fire crackers (you know the ones that just make a loud BOOM), simulating what they do for members of the Military who pass on. I was deeply offended by it, because in my opinion that is reserved only for those who have served in the Armed Forces. It seemed highly inappropriate to me and came off very awkward.
Four, at the reception everyone was completely shitfaced. I have not seen so many people wasted at a church function before. I mean, in LA it's kind of par for the course to see people drunk at functions, but this was just over the top. It was all just very, very strange in every regard.
You asked about Marti. She was kicked out of the church for being gay. Apparently it's okay for Rick to have four extra-marital affairs and exhibit grossly inappropriate behavior towards women and STILL be in leadership, but it's not okay to be gay. A huge double standard.
> Changedagain(): You have a (Central European)
> Jewish grandparent. (At least that would seem to
> be the simplest explanation.) Whether that person
> was a part of the Jewish community is another
> thing. Interesting.
> TheycallmeJonah(): Thank you for the directions. I
> took a look via Google Earth and what I saw was as
> you described.
> Since you said that you were at Marilyn's funeral,
> I have a few questions about it. And I'll add my
> reasons for asking.
> 1. Google Earth shows something being constructed
> near the water tower. Is that the memorial park?
> 2. What was the funeral like? I ask because my
> parents attended John S. and Marilyn's wedding.
> They said that it was a very lively and noisy
> affair -- something where the people of the cult
> showed their emotions full-on. I'm wondering if
> the funeral had a TLWF twist to it? And if it did,
> what was it?
> 3. What was Marilyn's cause of death? Doing some
> research it took me a while to figure out the
> Marilyn was actually dead. A lot of the material I
> was looking at, on the many of the TLWF related
> websites/pages suggested that Marilyn continued to
> be an "is" as opposed to a "was." It took a while
> and some digging to finally confirm that yes
> indeed she was gone.
> 4. Did they do the same thing when Marilyn died as
> they did when John Stevens died? I won't go into
> the details. (Marilyn's and my Uncle Bob gave me
> the complete story on what happened. Yuck!) Nor do
> you or anyone else need to provide me with
> details. A simple yes or no will suffice. Thank
> 5. Did they say Kaddish at her funeral? I ask this
> because of the apparent connection TLWF makes with
> Judaism and Jewish practices.
> Some questions for anyone who would like to
> chime-in ...
> -- I've been reading some strongly worded comments
> about Rick Holbrook, my cousin once removed. Would
> anyone be willing to disclose what's going on with
> this guy?
> -- What about Marilyn's daughter? If memory serves
> me correctly, her name is Marty. A quick look
> around suggests to me that she's not involved. Is
> that true?
> Thanks in advance to any answers you can provide.
> Next post I'll tell a few stories from the "early