In Larry's post from 2013 that is being discussed, his first paragraph is a quote from jhorning on August 2, 2013. He was responding to jhorning's post. It is important to consider the context for what was written. I thought we were talking about the LW cult and JRS and G&M. We're all on the same side, I think. If you look almost to the end of jhorning's post (below), you will see that excerpt bolded. From page 26 of this forum:
I remember when M started
> designating the wife as the spiritual leader of a
> marriage and that husbands were to submit
> themselves unto their wife. I remember the date,
> time, place where it happened to me. Part of
> the"pitch" to accept this was M telling my wife
> and I that she chose us because we were strong and
> could handle it.... once again it gave us the
> feeling of having M's approval I remember how
> Bill Maybe struggled with this. It ultimately
> drove him away from his marriage, church and son.
> Looking back, as hindsight is always 20/20, this
> role reversal was designed to break the male
> spirit and establish M's stronghold as the
> spiritual leader. I remember G telling me how
> difficult it was for him. From the early days, I
> think M saw herself in an exhaulted way because
> she was the chosen one to bring forth the man of
> God that was going to bring forth the kingdom on
> the earth. I think she used the same principle
> with Gary.... he was the voice from the pulpit,
> but in reality, she directed him as to what the
> will of God was going to be.... shining bright the
> path as the Lamp of Israel....what a bunch of mind
> controling bunk!...just my humble opinion.
> My wife and I came to see Marilyn as a "King
> Maker". She would help the one she latched onto
> and propel him to the top.
> "Kingmaker" is also used in some countries to
> refer to those individuals with the ability to
> influence the selection of political leaders. The
> term though always unofficial, has tended to gain
> more importance in places of power struggle e.g.
> politics, sports organizations etc. Consequently,
> bestowement of such a title is looked upon
> significantly and more often as a means of
> indirect gratification for individuals wanting to
> silently dictate the affairs of the organization."
> This is what has happened to tlwf. I was at the
> 1984 meeting in Sepulveda when she was choosing
> the men who would stand with her. They have become
> what we always tried to avoid: becoming like
> "Babylon". I heard the tapes where she directed
> marriages to break up. It was a big mess.
> Way back in the early days whenever the
> phrase,"the living word" was used my wife and I
> always thought of God's Word (the scriptures),
> what we didn't realize until later is those who
> used it the most were speaking of the word,
> sermons, this weeks, and tapes from jrs. He was
> not the Christ, John the Beloved, or our Father in
> the heavens. However, regarding the posts seeking
> info about John. Was he a drinker? A womanizer?
> That's like focusing on the debauchery of the
> prodigal son, "Can you tell me more about those
> prostitutes?", rather than on the forgiveness,
> grace, and love of the father. John was a man whom
> God used just like He has used anyone of us.
> Different calling, different gifts, but the same
> Galatians 2:6 "As for those who were held in high
> esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to
> me; God does not show favoritism—they added
> nothing to my message."
> We have one Teacher, One Father, One Spirit, and
> we are all brothers. Once again those in
> leadership have given themselves over to exalt
> marilyn and gary the same way they exalted jrs.
> And now with gary reaching out to the catholic
> church it's all over, but the shouting. IMHO.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2018 08:55PM by GoingRogue.