changedagain Wrote:
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> A post from August 2018:
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> Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John
> Robert Stevens
> Posted by: girls_turn_it_off
> Date: August 16, 2018 01:09PM
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> "Girls Turn It Off" was probably the most
> influential piece of Living Word material for my
> generation of young women. It encapsulates much of
> my experience growing up in TLWF: women and girls
> are shamed, blamed, and worked to the bone. If a
> man looks at/touches/treats you inappropriately,
> it's your fault because you can't control your
> spirit. "Keep it in your shoe" as Marilyn would
> say. Constant hard work and submission is what
> makes a Woman of Valor, oh and knowing when to
> keep quiet. In that message, female members of the
> congregation were simultaneously robbed of all
> agency while also being told that everything is
> our responsibility and in our control.
>
> When I was a YASPer this tape was played to all
> the girls (I was also required to listen to this
> tape at the direction of my "shepherd" back home
> in San Diego). Similar to the way sex-ed is
> taught, boys and girls were separated. The girls
> were corralled into a room and sat around
> diligently taking notes and silently exchanging
> guilty looks. Who knows what the boys were
> doing... probably playing basketball, eating ice
> cream at Yottie's or goofing off at the
> Amphitheater. They definitely weren't being taught
> about controlling their spirits or their hands,
> that's for sure! Funny enough though, the boys
> knew the thesis of GTIO even if they never were
> forced to listen to it: whatever happens, it's the
> girl's fault.
>
> So now, as an *almost* 30 year old woman who's
> *almost* mentally recovered from 20 years of mind
> control, I like to imagine that Girls Turn It Off
> is in reference to all of us women collectively
> turning off that f*cked up tape and Marilyn's
> controlling voice in our heads!

Wow I am glad my wife and I “blew out” before that bit of crap was excreted.

PressingonbyHis grace wrote:
Many of us carried a sense of guilt for John's death for many years afterwards. It didn't help with MH saying stuff like "I don't need you. I have to move fast to get John back.". We were again blamed, this time for not bringing John back. Guilt - all the way around.""

She did move fast on Gary...acting inappropriately with him while John was dying in another room (according to a number of people who have posted here)...and then the two of them getting hitched in Vegas within a year of John's death.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2020 01:37AM by changedagain.

Because guilt is so uncomfortable, it is usually projected.

Back in the JRS-era, his guilt was spun as 'demonic assault', which required us expending ridiculous amounts of time and energy yelling and screaming at GOD (who had nothing to do with it), when JRS should have been dealing with his own sh*t.

Fast-forward to the G&M-era, where we now have a good idea how much b.s. was going on behind the curtain (which included the infamous RH), and you have a recipe for decades worth of guilt to be dispensed.

Nearest targets--those warming the cheap seats.

John Robert Stevens died on June 4th, 1983. Gary Hargrave and Marilyn Stevens married on March 17th, 1984. Not sure if that was the date of their wedding at CLW or not. Sickos.

Reepicheep Wrote:
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> John Robert Stevens died on June 4th, 1983. Gary
> Hargrave and Marilyn Stevens married on March
> 17th, 1984. Not sure if that was the date of their
> wedding at CLW or not. Sickos.

Hey...isn't that St. Patrick's Day? You'd think we would remember that if the wedding was that day. All the green decorations and such...

Reepicheep Wrote:
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> John Robert Stevens died on June 4th, 1983. Gary
> Hargrave and Marilyn Stevens married on March
> 17th, 1984.

Hey...isn't that St. Patrick's Day?

Wikipedia:
Saint Patrick's Day is observed on 17 March. It is celebrated inside and outside Ireland as a religious and cultural holiday. It is both a solemnity and a holy day of obligation.

Isn't it also a holy day of heavy drinking? Not sure if that was why this date was selected ;)

p.s. I think their wedding at CLW was in the first or second week of June 1984.
I don't know whether they had more than two weddings.

Changed, I know there was also a wedding in Shiloh. They may have also had one in the islands.

I'm not rigid about this, but I believe that when a couple gets married they should have less than five weddings.

C H A N G E D

Or, how about four (or more) wives?

kBOY Wrote:
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> C H A N G E D
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> Or, how about four (or more) wives?

Yes--gotta have special privileges for Mom's favorite.