Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: November 15, 2015 02:38AM

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Apostle Dog ()
Date: November 15, 2015 08:07PM

I am taking a look at my whole belief system right now. Events in my personal life make me think that much of what I have believed is questionable. I am considering taking a detour onto another highway in Christendom. Being a Christian I do not believe there are other routes to take, such as other religions, but I do know for certain there are many different routs within Christianity that lead to the same place. I used to believe, of course, that there was only one.

The Living Word Fellowship is part of the two headed hydra of the Latter Rain phase which evolved into lots and lots of baby snakes that are growing quickly as babes do, the third wave, dominion theology, NAR, all of those came from the same parentage. Living Word was one head of the Latter rain thing, and then there was the rest of the Latter Rain, that was the OTHER head of the same creature. (snake in this context does not mean any negative context necessarily, just an analogy) JRS of course stated he was told by God not to pursue Latter Rain, and he did not, exactly, he pursued and taught ALL of the Latter Rain where other did not and he added some quirks on his own, a little white witchy here, a little spiritualism there, a little this a little that. The claim that Stevens only had SOME of the beliefs of Latter Rain is an unnecessary lie since most people outside of the fellowship are willing and allowed to just read it and see, compare it, inside the fellowship, well, sadly, all those people can do is repeat what they are told, they are not alowed to just read it and see.

It's sort of like the Democrats, they hesitate to say that they are in fact the socialist party of the U.S. The Republicans hesitate to admit that when they are left totally alone to their own devices they are in fact the Capitalist (Lazez faire) capaitalists if allowd to be so. We could do like Europe and have a socialist party, a communists party, a capilist party, hell just be real and say what you are, why not spit it out, an honest confession clears the air, to borrow a phrase.

But getting back, all of the charismania and latter rain, and living word, and nar and all of that came right out from Azusa Street and the Pentecostal movement, that is what was origionally called Latter Rain and where the biblical phrase which was referring to literal rain was used and coined to refer to a spiritual awakening.

I am looking at going back to my belief system that I have had since my dad bought me my first bible on my 16th birthday and said, Happy birthday, here read this. (I was lucky, my spiritual upbringing was a little unorthodox but it helped me think for myself.)_

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: November 15, 2015 10:41PM

A.D.


That is not necessarily a bad idea. Your questioning of Christianity is not the same as questioning what Jesus taught. There is only ONE WAY--LOVE.

Separate out the idea that LOVE needs to be attached to any specific ‘theology’ or group. It requires none. Jesus simply taught LOVE, and walked in it. He promoted no religion, ritual, organization, or group. He made endless attempts to instill this simple attitude in his disciples, who, being trapped in the mindset of Judaism, tried to make it more complicated than it was.

We were CREATED as LOVE, but have simply forgotten it. We can LOVE whenever and wherever we choose, and therein lies the rub--all of our excuses for not LOVING. That was what Jesus was pointing out--LOVE without CONDITIONS.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: paleface ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:14PM

Here is Marilyn's obit. Interesting what is said:

[m.kalonanews.com]

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:21PM

'Co-founder'? I thought this forum was the 'The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens'.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Apostle Dog ()
Date: November 15, 2015 11:29PM

paleface Wrote:
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> Here is Marilyn's obit. Interesting what is
> said:
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> [m.kalonanews.com]
> ries/doc564375cb2dd8f890123255.txt


This makes a very good point for all to ponder. Jezebel and Judas are usurpers of that which was built by someone else. This is not a surprise at all that all of the Living Word websites show that Gary Hargrave and Marilyn are the FOUNDERS of Living Word Fellowship.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: paleface ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:13AM

...and no mention at all of JRS.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Apostle Dog ()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:24AM

If the Living Word Fellowship has been a fellowship of independent churches and not a denomination, how is it that they have, I think it is like 12 million dollars is the quote I got from someone that was at a meeting where Hargrave said they accumulated that money from the sale of local church property and that it was earmarked for the fund for the "preservation of the word." The local churches of denominations generally owned by the denomination, at least this is how I understand it, because the denomination built or bought those properties for the purpose of establishing their churches. When a nondenominational church just joins with a bigger organization that does not mean they have to give over their property to the organization.

All of the people that have a part in the purchase and upkeep of church property should have a vote in which nonprofit organizations get the money that comes from the sale of that property. If some sleazy, drunk, Marilyn owned gimp "pastor" or "elder" has given over church property to these shysters there may have been something done illegally. Somebody should be going to jail over it.

I have seen this happen over and over again in churches not just in this walk thing, I have seen it happen, and I am sick of Christian sheeple getting taken to the cleaners because there is nobody watching over them that gives a dam about anything but getting what they can out of them.

Jesus said it best, when He was obsessed over the fact that His sheep had no shepherds, it has always been the leaders of the churches throughout history that have sold out the people. Oh, there have always been climbers and Jezebels and Judas' in the congregation, wannabees, I know that, but I am talking about the ones that were put in office that did not care. There may not be anybody going to jail, but there could be somebody going to Hell. I hope they are reading this, you spineless bastards that have kissed up instead of bringing up the people that you were supposed to love and support and nourish, there is a DOUBLE judgement placed on the leaders. I know that from my own life, there a time that you face the music and it does not feel good. Better to face it now, better to see what you have done NOW and live with it the rest of your lives, or enjoy your whimpy a$$ed life and deal with it for eternity.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: November 16, 2015 02:20AM

A.D.


The chips will fall where they may. There’s no great benefit, nor are we even able, to make judgment calls on behalf of another. That’s a burden we need not carry.

As far as church finances go, that will no doubt be something the little people will be kept in the dark about. They are not ‘able to bear it’.

Our main concern now should be as facilitators to those who view the seas parting before them, providing a way of escape.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: November 16, 2015 04:07AM

kBOY Wrote:
> As far as church finances go, that will no doubt
> be something the little people will be kept in the
> dark about. They are not ‘able to bear it’.

Yes, it would be difficult to acknowledge that money people intended for one purpose, went for another. Best keep them in the dark!
Note: I'm being facetious. So please--don't anyone attempt to insert "he did his best to keep people in the dark about financial matters" into my obit.

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