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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:15AM

i would like to know if u can furnish us one little bit of information
on your family member.

did this person fight the brainwash of landmark.

it seems that people who have breakdowns are many times
the ones that are not as suceptible to landmarks tactics, which
is very few people.

this could be relavant. maybe u could ask sometime in the future.

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Posted by: Montreal ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:19AM

Rev. Dean Simpson, his remarks,,,,

[www.scooponlandmarkforum.com]

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:24AM

there it is . the five day.

if this minister wouldnt mind. maybe we could invite him here
so i could have a go at em.

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Posted by: Concerned Oz ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:46AM

Montreal - good work. The Rev Dean Simpson refers to the 5 day Clergy Landmark course called:

[b:ecb0cc5f3b]"Making a difference: A Course for Those Who Minister."[/b:ecb0cc5f3b][/color:ecb0cc5f3b]

The poor man can't see the conflict in his Christian theology and Landmark Philosophy.

[b:ecb0cc5f3b]Christain Theology[/b:ecb0cc5f3b] = All good things come from God, (the only source), who is the creator.

[b:ecb0cc5f3b]Landmark Philosophy[/b:ecb0cc5f3b] = I create all possibility in my life and Landmark Education/Forum leader is the "source" to create the possiblity of world peace by 2020.

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR the JUDEO/CHRISTIAN God in Landmark's perverted existential philosophy.

Let these examples of Church clergy be an illustration as to how the Landmark process can blind a person from what they formally/currently hold to be true.

Please do not think I am preaching Christianity - What I am trying to do is compare belief systems.

Patrick - Is your posting referring to the new thread on psychotic breaks?

Oz

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Posted by: Montreal ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:54AM

I wonder how big of a city El Segundo in California is? They have the mayor and two school members supporting this, arghhhhh!!!!!

Mike Gordon, Mayor of El Segundo
Dan Webb, Principal of ES Middle School
Robin Funk, President of the PTA at ES Middle School

[www.elsegundopossibilities.com]

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Posted by: patrick-darcy ()
Date: December 09, 2004 11:12AM

yes my post was about the psychotic breaks.

i have no proof of this but i have thought for years
that there are a few people that wont fall under
landmarks spell and that these are the people that
have the breakdowns.

i talked to one on a newsgroup and he said that he
couldnt believe in God anymore because of landmark.

i have heard of others but havent had any contact with them.

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Posted by: Concerned Oz ()
Date: December 09, 2004 11:20AM

Hi Patrick,

Yes I agree shall I link this to the other thread and answer there.
Psychotic Breaks:
[board.culteducation.com]

Oz.

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Posted by: sonnie_dee ()
Date: December 09, 2004 01:46PM

Oz,

At one stage centres were encouraged to set up introductions geared especially towards teachers.

Where we were there were several teachers who were pushing to get the technology in their schools. The school I taught at prior to being a participant had paid for all staff to do the Landmark Forum. I was the last one.

Landmark recognises the impact they can have on a town, city or country by being in their school system.

As for more formal structures. Landmark is quite secretive even with staff. Only the CEO, vice presidents and other such people really ever have the full view of what they want. But there will be a long term plan.

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Posted by: elena ()
Date: December 09, 2004 10:57PM

Yes, something Werner Erhard must have learned from L. Ron Hubbard; getting to people at a young age ensures future paying customers and more loyal followers and slaves. Funny thing, from time to time, as people's memories fade, the scientolgists try to slip under the radar and get themselves into the school system here where I live. But the minute some sharpie on the school board does a little research and finds their "fingerprints," the deal over and they are out. You'd think they'd be discouraged, but they just wait a while and then try again.


Ellen

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