What follows will be the expert statements from the French Landmark Video, [b:b1d2210be3]Voyage to the Land of the New Gurus :[/b:b1d2210be3]

[b:b1d2210be3]Statement by solicitor Jean-Pierre Jougla[/b:b1d2210be3]
Jean-Pierre Jougla appeared as an expert commentator on the investigative journalism newsprogram. Jean-Pierre Jougla is a solicitor with the Court of Appeal in Montpellier, France, wrote the preface to the book Les Sectes, and is the founder of the department of "victimology related to the sectarian harmful effect" at the University of Lyon.
[b:b1d2210be3]Jougla states :[/b:b1d2210be3]

[i:b1d2210be3]First I'd like to go back to your question, "Did you ever want to leave the room?" No. They were simply in a state that made it impossible to leave. From the beginning you saw the brainwashing set in motion, through things that seem harmless. For example, confining people for 3 or 4 days in a room with no windows. No sense of time passing. No bearings. And, commitment to a completely objectionable contract...If you brought it to court, if would be thrown out immediately. But people there don't know that it's invalid, and so are put in a position of inferiority, passivity...No one would think of playing around with this. Roth [former chief of Landmark Education in France ] is using techniques that could be used in behavioral psychology groups, but where people know it's reciprocal...Face-to-face, removed from any public confessions. That's where you get into totalitarian methods...It completely breaks a person down, while preventing most people from realizing it. But brainwashing is just that: it happens without the victim knowing it.[/i:b1d2210be3]

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[b:d17e7cbbaa]Statement by psychiatrist Jean-Marie Abgrall[/b:d17e7cbbaa]
Jean-Marie Abgrall, M.D. is a French psychiatrist, criminologist, specialist in forensic medicine, cult expert, and graduate in criminal law. He has been an expert witness at the Supreme Court of Appeal and Court for Businesses in France on the subject of cults. Dr. Abgrall was paid 45,000 Euro by Landmark Education to write a positive report on the company, asserting that the organization is not a "cult". However, in the program, Dr. Abgrall asserts a different opinion. Dr. Abgrall was interviewed on Landmark Education by Pieces a Conviction's investigative journalism team.
[b:d17e7cbbaa]Dr. Abgrall states :[/b:d17e7cbbaa]

[i:d17e7cbbaa]It's not true that I said it's not a cult! I neither wrote that it is a cult nor that it's not a cult. I haven't taken a stance. My critique is of techniques that haven't been mastered at all. There is no control of a psychologist. They just put anyone in there, which means that if this guy takes a blow, he leaves alone in a daze, there's no one to take control for him. They don't exchange information, there's no real inspection of the technique. These guys aren't trained, as if tomorrow you set up shop as a psychotherapist. I mean, that's what's shocking.[/i:d17e7cbbaa]

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[b:3e0aca195e]Statement by deputy mayor Jean-Pierre Brard[/b:3e0aca195e]
Jean-Pierre Brard appeared as an expert commentator on the investigative journalism program. Jean-Pierre Brard is the deputy mayor of Montreuil, France, and was the vice-president of the investigating committee on cults in the French National Assembly.
[b:3e0aca195e]Brard answered questions from host Elise Lucet:[/b:3e0aca195e]

On that note, Jean-Pierre Brard, you are deputy mayor of Montreuil. You were vice-president of the investigating committee on cults in the Assembly. As we heard Landmark Education says that you classified them as a cult, without having investigated it, what is your response?

[i:3e0aca195e]I say that Ms. McLean must be Pinocchio's little sister and that, little by little as she's talking, her nose must be growing longer. Because, obviously, she's lying.[/i:3e0aca195e]

But precisely what are the criteria that lead you to say it's a cult?

[i:3e0aca195e]It's very simple. Clearly, there's a guru who destabilizes people to enslave them, to make them subservient, which has been said by witnesses. You can also see that they make you relinquish critical thought, and break the person down so that they can pick up the pieces. You can also see that there's a network of money. This hasn't been mentioned yet: The ultimate goal is to press its power and clean out the students' wallets. And by using the students, to attempt to earn more. So, there are the criterion of domination, a network of money, subordination and brainwashing. So it's a cult.[/i:3e0aca195e]

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[b:9529ff59d1]Statement by psychoanalyst Dr. Christian Lujan[/b:9529ff59d1]
Dr. Christian Lujan appeared as an expert commentator on the program as well. Dr. Lujan is a psychoanalyst, a professor at ESCP-EAP European School of Management, and the author of two popular French books on human resource management.
[b:9529ff59d1]Dr. Lujan answered questions from host Elise Lucet:[/b:9529ff59d1]

So, Christian Lujan, you are a psycho-sociologist and psychoanalyst. Why did Alain Roth bring out those fears from childhood? What's the purpose?

[i:9529ff59d1]He is in a position of total power. And we're in a mechanism that has no place for the subject. Individuals are objects, objects of this total power. Everything is in coded language. Everything is organized, everything is structured. The goal is to destabilize the individual and to negate - and I emphasize this - the notion of the subject. The individual doesn't own his own past. Only they know what's good for him. At any moment, an exercise like this can take away a person's introspection.[/i:9529ff59d1]

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[b:2c7ca476ba]Statement by author Mona Vasquez[/b:2c7ca476ba]
Mona Vasquez is the author of the book: Satan Created the Cult: Memoirs of an escapee. She was a member of Scientology for seven years, and succeeded in winning back 60,000 Euro from the organization through serving a hunger strike at Scientology's Paris, France headquarters. She appears in the documentary discussing the various similarities and differences between Scientology and Landmark Education :
[b:2c7ca476ba]Mona Vasquez answered questions from host Elise Lucet:[/b:2c7ca476ba]

[i:2c7ca476ba]Yes, I was also stupefied, I should say, but not in the same way as her [ Landmark Education volunteer]. First I'd like to correct one point: I didn't "enter" Scientology. Someone lent me a book. It didn't contain the word "Scientology." A friend lent me a very interesting book, So there wasn't any question of me getting into a movement [/i:2c7ca476ba]

But you spent 7 years there?

[i:2c7ca476ba]7 years I didn't see go by. But it's important to point out that the follower doesn't realize he's in a cult. If he did, he'd run the other way. Once he's put under, bamboozled, hypnotized, you're in a sort of haze, and you don't realize it. The follower is the last to realize it. The family takes action, but not the follower. To answer you, I was glued to the video clips. I was a little uncomfortable because I heard all the terminology from Scientology. There was a whiteboard at the beginning with exactly the same words that Hubbard would use, the founder of Scientology. I worked in Denmark at the parent organization of Europe. So I was at the heart of Scientology. So I know the terminology very well, and all of it's the same. On the other hand, I think they may have diversified. If I may, I think that cults are very quick. As soon as they sense they are being labeled by the press, or in government reports, they rush to diversify, to take another angle[/i:2c7ca476ba]

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[b:612c4450d0]Film's description of Paris office volunteers[/b:612c4450d0]

Almost an hour into the film, the investigative reporter Laurent Richard enters the volunteer program in Landmark Education's Paris, France office.

[b:612c4450d0]The following consists of Richard's conversations with a Landmark Education Volunteer in the "Assisting Program" who is cleaning the bathrooms at the Paris, France office, and also the volunteer's supervisor, who himself is also a volunteer :[/b:612c4450d0]

[i:612c4450d0]In this apartment, 20 people work full time. Most seem to have the same status: volunteer.
They're everywhere, even the bathrooms.[/i:612c4450d0] - [b:612c4450d0] (Narrator Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
[b:612c4450d0][Laurent Richard talking to volunteer cleaning the bathroom] :[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]You're a volunteer too? - [/i:612c4450d0][b:612c4450d0] (Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
Yes - [b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]And this is volunteering? - [/i:612c4450d0][b:612c4450d0] (Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
As you can see. So here I am, an assistant. And it's OK. I'm happy to do it because it's why I'm here. I'm here. This needs to be done. So I do it. It's not hard, you can say. -[b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]I've already met this man, on the third day of the Forum.
He was handing out nametags to participants, already as a volunteer.[/i:612c4450d0] - [b:612c4450d0] (Narrator Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
It's a little hot. I'm tired, but otherwise ok. It's true, I don't want to do this all the time. I have other things to do, you know. But stuff like this here, I chose it. I said, "OK, I'll do it." I like a challenge. You know, try to come up with something. And to see what brings me, to see into my life. As it brings me things that are real. Yeah. Really. Given that I can share with people, and when there's a person here at the same time, like a coach, we share things that are happening in our lives, make challenges. In fact, I notice that it has really changed things. And concretely. Because, sometimes you just say, "It's changing." -[b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]But yeah it really, it changed things? [/i:612c4450d0]- [b:612c4450d0] (Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
Yes. It really taught me things - a breakthrough. Because you train yourself to live differently from before, you know? -[b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]Suddently we are interrupted. A man pokes his head in. [/i:612c4450d0]- [b:612c4450d0] (Narrator Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]
Yes Antoine? - [b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
It's sparkling. Bravo! -[b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer Supervisor)[/b:612c4450d0]
Yes, it's sparkling. I didn't use water, because drying takes forever. With "Mr. Clean" everywhere, I got off as much as I could. - [b:612c4450d0] (Volunteer)[/b:612c4450d0]
[i:612c4450d0]He's a supervisor; and also a volunteer. In fact, his job is to supervise Philippe's work. Volunteers, assistants, constantly being overseen by other volunteers: another side of the Landmark company.[/i:612c4450d0] -[b:612c4450d0] (Narrator Richard)[/b:612c4450d0]

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