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Counterfeit Choice and Impact Philosophy

Impact Trainings qualifies as a religion on many grounds, but it can also be viewed as a philosophy, or better yet as the philosophies of men mingled with scripture...

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I also want to know what unbiased, third party was in charge of those studies and statistics you mentioned. Where is your data and your evidence. Lets see it...

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Brett Haward credited as "CEO, Manifest Management" in the video, is IN REALITY Harmony/GLF's QUEST TRAINER. For Craps Sake. He did his training at Impact in about 1998 or so. At that time his "small business consulting" business was in Phoenix. He moved here for reasons someone might find worth looking into. Let's just say he and Hans apparently have a lot in common when it comes to how they run their businesses.

Anna Lee McDonald, credited as "CEO of Personal Effects" IS IN REALITY their SUMMIT TRAINER. (She's in "The Answer" video.) She was trained at Impact, briefly, by Sally Berger. Before that she worked cleaning teeth for a living. Guess bad breath and cavities gave her lots of insight into how to live a life manafesting miracles.

Kim Ashton, credited in one video as "Alliance Investments, LLC," and then in another as "Alliance Coaching" (both just names she made up for businesses that don't exist) is a LIFT OFF TRAINER (and one of the most insane people I've ever met. Truly deranged and not just because of her openly homosexual/bisexual lifestyle. She is psychotic, delusional and one of the most angry and unhappy people on the planet (except when she is at GLF wearing her "trainer" mask.)

(Try meeting any of these people away from there. Almost all of them have broken relationships with ex-wives and husbands, drug abusing kids, parents and siblings who will not speak to them, lawsuits, irs problems, bankrupcys, etc. And not just in their distant past. Yet they claim to know something about how to make your life work. They are frauds. Actors playing a part. Sure they feel good while they are there, but most of the rest of their lives are a living hell.)

Jayson Orvis is, I am told, the board of directors and "non profit" shell game notwithstanding, the owner of GLF. Watch his video and ask yourself, would you buy a used car from this guy? Apparently made a ton of $$$ doing borderline legal (and apparently always just over the side of legal and not into illegal -- but not exactly moral or with the kind of "integrity" and "voting black not red" taking care of others they preach in this "training") credit cleanup on the internet.

Elizabeth Nell is a Great Life LIFT OFF trainer (and, as the one exception to all the above, is credited as such on the video).

The video labled Kathy with the subtitle "Can 4 days of Great Life training create world peace?" (answer, "You've got to be kidding me, right? World peace? They do these four day grainings every month. Anyone seen "world peace" yet??!!) is actually a compiliation video with more new age wacky BS.

Jayson,

Sweetheart, you are such an obvious fraud.

We point out your videos by your current employees and "trainers" pretending to be graduates of the Harmony/Great Life training are false, deceptive and misleading, and you respond about how they make great carrot cake, or are "licensed," or are in committed relationships (not denying that that relationship is to a member of the same sex.)  No problem with that, but it seems to me folks considering your training ought to know more about who will be training them before they go, then they do.   Schools list faculty.  Students know who their professors will be before they pay their tuition, even the Landmark website lists their forum trainers, but you don't.  Why?  Is it so they can pretend to be your graduates in your videos?

Wouldn't integrity suggest that ANYTHING they have to share about their training results belongs as a testimony to IMPACT not you?

Then you claim in private emails to me to have enough stuff on Hans and Sally to put them out of business, or do damage to them, or put them in jail (even sharing publically that you know them to be criminals), but then you encourage others to pay them over $5,000.00 to do Quest to TIT1.  You say you feel they do more good than harm.  Leaves me wondering if you are psychotic.  

>>Out of curiosity: why didn't Ed go into scathing critiques of former trainers such as Joe Buchman?)<<

Well, there is the time factor. . . .

A LIST OF FORMER HARMONY TRAINERS I'VE NOT CRITIQUED:

Greg Johanson -- trained to be a Quest Trainer by Mike Gardner while struggeling to make appointments with his parole officer.  

Jill Thompson -- Rising Star grad training for Harmony, using it mostly to date guys in the training.  Married one eventually.

Terry Ashworth -- Trained the abundance weekends while driving a car that could not pass the state safety inspection.

Joe Buchman -- one of the most arrogant people around  Even moreso than Hans.

I hesitate to trash him because I like his wife Cindy so much.   Did several trainings with her (some not in Utah -- HINT, HINT if you're so worried about who I am).   Hadn't talked to her in some time.  Called their home tonight.  They are in the book.  Joe was out of town.  Was in Colorado.  And Florida.  Looking for the "perfect" college to teach at.  Teaching online and doing the Breakthrough Selling course for Gary Acevedo.  It's amazing to me that they are still married.

Cindy says Joe left when they/she loaned Steve and Pam Juback $20.000.00 to pay the rent and keep Harmony open when he was training there.

Instead they used it to remodel the lobby.  Really pissed Joe off.  He quit. 

Then, after lots of lies and delays, the first check Pam wrote to her -- bounced.  The second one cleared and she's not spoked to either of them since.   

Loaned $60,000.00 to Hans and Sally about 10 years ago.  Got paid back on time with lots of interest.  

So when I say the Jubacks are worse than Hans, that's just another of the reasons why.   

Interesting you don't look into that sort of thing.  Especially before hiring the Solomon family.  

If you don't look, you won't see.

I heard the JJ Stuff former just mentioned from Sally -- but about being "inappropriate" in a kids training the weekend before they fired him.  Didn't repeat that here because, frankly, I don't believe it.  

But being "nice" to you Jayson, or trying to have a reasoned or fair discussion with you just isn't working.

You've accused me of slander and libel and as you own, or contract with, or whatever --  a law firm with lots of attorneys for your credit clean up stuff, I hope you'll understand if I decline to write to you again.

Except to say regarding Brett, Analee and Kim . . .

1) Giving keynote speaches or owning manafest management does not make one qualified to handle the emotional impact of feedback arcs on someone whose dad killed himself (for example).

2)  Analee McDonald appears in your video as CEO of a ficticious company, and as if she was a graduate of YOUR training.  Everything she has to say, based on results in her life, comes from IMPACT, not you.

(I wonder why as a member of the GLF board of directors, you are okay with that FRAUD?)

3) Kim is LICENSED??? Give me a break.  She'd done Resource Realizations training for trainers.  So what.  That's like John Colbert giving his book the Colbert book award; or Hitler giving out diplomas for his school in how to run an efficient government.

As for licensing the LIfespring materials, I see Lifespringnow.com has a list of those who do pay a license fee for using Lifeboat, Red/Black and the like.

The Great Life Foundation is not on that list.  Neither is Impact.  Many others are.  You are known by the company you keep.


The only licensed people I see in town doing this kind of stuff are Paul Mundt, and Gary Acevedo -- both with MS degrees in psychotherapy, and long track records (unlike Harmony/Rising Star/Impact) of runing companies without financial misdealings.

Goodnight, Good Luck, and Good Bye!

-------Ed

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Jayson,

Sweetheart, you are such an obvious fraud.

We point out your videos by your current employees and "trainers" pretending to be graduates of the Harmony/Great Life training are false, 
deceptive and misleading, and you respond about how they make great carrot cake, or are "licensed," or are in committed relationships 
(not denying that that relationship is to a member of the same sex.)  No problem with that, but it seems to me folks considering your 
training ought to know more about who will be training them before they go, then they do.   Schools list faculty.  Students know who their
 professors will be before they pay their tuition, even the Landmark website lists their forum trainers, but you don't.  Why?  Is it so they 
can pretend to be your graduates in your videos?

Wouldn't integrity suggest that ANYTHING they have to share about their training results belongs as a testimony to IMPACT not you?

Then you claim in private emails to me to have enough stuff on Hans and Sally to put them out of business, or do damage to them, or 
put them in jail (even sharing publically that you know them to be criminals), but then you encourage others to pay them over $5,000.00 
to do Quest to TIT1.  You say you feel they do more good than harm.  Leaves me wondering if you are psychotic.  

>>Out of curiosity: why didn't Ed go into scathing critiques of former trainers such as Joe Buchman?)<<

Well, there is the time factor. . . .

A LIST OF FORMER HARMONY TRAINERS I'VE NOT CRITIQUED:

Greg Johanson -- trained to be a Quest Trainer by Mike Gardner while struggeling to make appointments with his parole officer.  

Jill Thompson -- Rising Star grad training for Harmony, using it mostly to date guys in the training.  Married one eventually.

Terry Ashworth -- Trained the abundance weekends while driving a car that could not pass the state safety inspection.

Joe Buchman -- one of the most arrogant people around  Even moreso than Hans.

I hesitate to trash him because I like his wife Cindy so much.   Did several trainings with her (some not in Utah -- HINT, HINT if you're
 so worried about who I am).   Hadn't talked to her in some time.  Called their home tonight.  They are in the book.  Joe was out of town.  
Was in Colorado.  And Florida.  Looking for the "perfect" college to teach at.  Teaching online and doing the Breakthrough Selling course 
for Gary Acevedo.  It's amazing to me that they are still married.

Cindy says Joe left when they/she loaned Steve and Pam Juback $20.000.00 to pay the rent and keep Harmony open when he was 
training there.

Instead they used it to remodel the lobby.  Really pissed Joe off.  He quit. 

Then, after lots of lies and delays, the first check Pam wrote to her -- bounced.  The second one cleared and she's not spoked to either 
of them since.   

Loaned $60,000.00 to Hans and Sally about 10 years ago.  Got paid back on time with lots of interest.  

So when I say the Jubacks are worse than Hans, that's just another of the reasons why.   

Interesting you don't look into that sort of thing.  Especially before hiring the Solomon family.  

If you don't look, you won't see.

I heard the JJ Stuff former just mentioned from Sally -- but about being "inappropriate" in a kids training the weekend before they fired 
him.  Didn't repeat that here because, frankly, I don't believe it.  

But being "nice" to you Jayson, or trying to have a reasoned or fair discussion with you just isn't working.

You've accused me of slander and libel and as you own, or contract with, or whatever --  a law firm with lots of attorneys for your credit 
clean up stuff, I hope you'll understand if I decline to write to you again.

Except to say regarding Brett, Analee and Kim . . .

1) Giving keynote speaches or owning manafest management does not make one qualified to handle the emotional impact of feedback 
arcs on someone whose dad killed himself (for example).

2)  Analee McDonald appears in your video as CEO of a ficticious company, and as if she was a graduate of YOUR training.  Everything 
she has to say, based on results in her life, comes from IMPACT, not you.

(I wonder why as a member of the GLF board of directors, you are okay with that FRAUD?)

3) Kim is LICENSED??? Give me a break.  She'd done Resource Realizations training for trainers.  So what.  That's like John Colbert 
giving his book the Colbert book award; or Hitler giving out diplomas for his school in how to run an efficient government.

As for licensing the LIfespring materials, I see Lifespringnow.com has a list of those who do pay a license fee for using Lifeboat, Red/Black
 and the like.

The Great Life Foundation is not on that list.  Neither is Impact.  Many others are.  You are known by the company you keep.


The only licensed people I see in town doing this kind of stuff are Paul Mundt, and Gary Acevedo -- both with MS degrees in psychotherapy,
 and long track records (unlike Harmony/Rising Star/Impact) of runing companies without financial misdealings.

Goodnight, Good Luck, and Good Bye!

-------Ed