Posted by: brushknee ()
Date: September 03, 2020 05:10AM

Hello Network,

Newbie here. I have a question about Holdt's site american(dash)pictures(dot)com I needed to ask cult awareness authorities.

I read with great interest the article published here on this website

"Group influence and the psychology of cultism within Re-evaluation Counselling: a critique"


about the RC movement. From a prior relationship I used to own all their books but threw them all in the trash one day a couple decades ago after reading of the abuses. And it is a so-called successful squirrel group of scientology (like a communist version of scientology). I never participated in meetings or joined the organization.

So my question is, is Holdt's site and apparent life's work of no value at all?

The site is all infused with pretty much 100 proof RC theory and language. I don't know about counseling practices, since I haven't run across that demonstrated on the site.

Holdt apparently needed strength to get through this self-chosen journey, on the one hand he is clergy, so he has that, but then he apparently also used RC to get through what I imagine would be his "patterns of fear/discomfort" etc.

Now is it all bunk? The pictures seem powerful to me, but is this really a case of appropriation if it is all dressed up in RC theory?

I don't want to point anyone to it if that's the case. I have a feeling it is appropriation. The film and workshop is shown to privileged (white) kids at expensive colleges, but I don't see any actual outcomes from something like that. The underclass is still with us.

The reason why I'm looking at it now, is not because I expect to reemerge from my liberal racist tendencies and recover my authentic soul so I no longer need whiskey, but rather that corporate America's Diversity initiatives are reeling from the recent events, and we low level employees are being offered a sort of Lukewarm Privilege Pre-Soak in response to the "naked oppression" we've witnessed during the pandemic.

I don't know why the decades old diversity initiatives are being conflated with the BLM protests and recent problems of the "naked oppression".

It's seems a lame attempt to offer objectives, definitions, agreements and such whose terminology can't even be found at all Holdt's site if you google for them. These diversity corporate zoom discussions happen in the same breath as mentioning the latest police shooting, as if this lukewarm construct is being offered to BLM as a response to the "naked oppression". I don't know why that isn't infuriating? Maybe it's just me.

It could be just another case of appropriation, with the same lack of outcome. It's like a case of appropriation pulled through an opaque wall of glass bricks, so the origin is fuzzy on the other side, for "privacy" I wonder? Maybe that's it, the powers that be want to respond, but are unable to directly, so we have to settle for lukewarm soda instead.

I had hoped Holdt's pictures or tools would be something I could actually personally use, but perhaps I should just delete it and move on, if it represents a pattern of appropriation.

Well that's about it.

Thank you group.

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