Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
net1261
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Date: August 07, 2008 11:37PM
Hello, I am trying to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses. I was trying to search for a Jehovah's Witness message board on this website but I don't see anything. So I am looking for either ex-Jehovah's Witness support or in general ex-cult support. I just got Rick Ross's Combatting Cult Mind Control book in the mail so I will probably start reading it tonight.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
rrmoderator
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Date: August 07, 2008 11:40PM
There are links to ex-Witness pages at the Links page.
See [www.culteducation.com]
BTW--Steve Hassan wrote the book "Combatting Mind Control."
Disclaimer regarding Steve Hassan
The Ross Institute of New Jersey/May 2013
See [www.culteducation.com]
The inclusion of news articles within the Ross Institute of New Jersey (RI) archives, which mention and/or quote Steven Hassan, in no way suggests that RI recommends Mr. Hassan or recognizes him in any way.
News articles that mention Steve Hassan have been archived for historical purposes only due to the information they contain about controversial groups, movements and/or leaders.
RI does not recommend Steven Hassan.
RI has received serious complaints about Steve Hassan concerning his fees. Mr. Hassan does not publicly disclose his fee schedule, but according to complaints Steve Hassan has charged fees varying from $250.00 per hour or $2,500.00 per day to $500.00 per hour or $5,000.00 per day. This does not include Mr. Hassan's expenses, which according to complaints can be quite substantial.
Steven Hassan has charged families tens of thousands of dollars and provided questionable results. One recent complaint cited total fees of almost $50,000.00. But this very expensive intervention effort ended in failure.
Dr. Cathleen Mann, who holds a doctorate in psychology and has been a licensed counselor in the state of Colorado since 1994 points out, "Nowhere does Hassan provide a base rate and/or any type or accepted statistical method defining his results..."
Steve Hassan has at times suggested to potential clients that they purchase a preliminary report based upon what he calls his "BITE" model. These "BITE reports" can potentially cost thousands of dollars.
See [corp.sec.state.ma.us]
Steve Hassan runs a for-profit corporation called "Freedom of Mind." Mr. Hassan is listed as the corporate agent for that business as well as its president and treasurer.
RI does not recommend "Freedom of Mind" as a resource.
RI also does not list or recommend Steve Hassan's books.
To better understand why Mr. Hassan's books are not recommended by RI read this detailed review of his most recently self-published book titled "Freedom of Mind."
See [www.cultnews.com]
Steve Hassan's cult intervention methodology has historically raised concerns since its inception. The book "Recovery from Cults" (W.W. Norton & Co. pp. 174-175) edited by Dr. Michael Langone states the following:
"Calling his approach 'strategic intervention [sic] therapy,' Hassan (1988) stresses that, although he too tries to communicate a body of information to cultists and to help them think independently, he also does formal counseling. As with many humanistic counseling approaches, Hassan’s runs the risk of imposing clarity, however subtly, on the framework’s foundational ambiguity and thereby manipulating the client."
RI has also learned that Mr. Hassan has had dual-relationships with his counseling clients. That is, clients seeing Mr. Hassan for counseling may also do professional cult intervention work with him.
Professionals in the field of cultic studies have also expressed concerns regarding Steven Hassan's use of hypnosis and Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).
Based upon complaints and the concerns expressed about Mr. Hassan RI does not recommend Steve Hassan for counseling, intervention work or any other form of professional consultation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2013 08:51PM by rrmoderator.
See [www.culteducation.com]
BTW--Steve Hassan wrote the book "Combatting Mind Control."
Disclaimer regarding Steve Hassan
The Ross Institute of New Jersey/May 2013
See [www.culteducation.com]
The inclusion of news articles within the Ross Institute of New Jersey (RI) archives, which mention and/or quote Steven Hassan, in no way suggests that RI recommends Mr. Hassan or recognizes him in any way.
News articles that mention Steve Hassan have been archived for historical purposes only due to the information they contain about controversial groups, movements and/or leaders.
RI does not recommend Steven Hassan.
RI has received serious complaints about Steve Hassan concerning his fees. Mr. Hassan does not publicly disclose his fee schedule, but according to complaints Steve Hassan has charged fees varying from $250.00 per hour or $2,500.00 per day to $500.00 per hour or $5,000.00 per day. This does not include Mr. Hassan's expenses, which according to complaints can be quite substantial.
Steven Hassan has charged families tens of thousands of dollars and provided questionable results. One recent complaint cited total fees of almost $50,000.00. But this very expensive intervention effort ended in failure.
Dr. Cathleen Mann, who holds a doctorate in psychology and has been a licensed counselor in the state of Colorado since 1994 points out, "Nowhere does Hassan provide a base rate and/or any type or accepted statistical method defining his results..."
Steve Hassan has at times suggested to potential clients that they purchase a preliminary report based upon what he calls his "BITE" model. These "BITE reports" can potentially cost thousands of dollars.
See [corp.sec.state.ma.us]
Steve Hassan runs a for-profit corporation called "Freedom of Mind." Mr. Hassan is listed as the corporate agent for that business as well as its president and treasurer.
RI does not recommend "Freedom of Mind" as a resource.
RI also does not list or recommend Steve Hassan's books.
To better understand why Mr. Hassan's books are not recommended by RI read this detailed review of his most recently self-published book titled "Freedom of Mind."
See [www.cultnews.com]
Steve Hassan's cult intervention methodology has historically raised concerns since its inception. The book "Recovery from Cults" (W.W. Norton & Co. pp. 174-175) edited by Dr. Michael Langone states the following:
"Calling his approach 'strategic intervention [sic] therapy,' Hassan (1988) stresses that, although he too tries to communicate a body of information to cultists and to help them think independently, he also does formal counseling. As with many humanistic counseling approaches, Hassan’s runs the risk of imposing clarity, however subtly, on the framework’s foundational ambiguity and thereby manipulating the client."
RI has also learned that Mr. Hassan has had dual-relationships with his counseling clients. That is, clients seeing Mr. Hassan for counseling may also do professional cult intervention work with him.
Professionals in the field of cultic studies have also expressed concerns regarding Steven Hassan's use of hypnosis and Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).
Based upon complaints and the concerns expressed about Mr. Hassan RI does not recommend Steve Hassan for counseling, intervention work or any other form of professional consultation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2013 08:51PM by rrmoderator.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
karen
()
Date: August 08, 2008 07:04AM
Good luck to you Net. Were you a JW for a long time? I'm not really up on
the religion all that much. I've had the JW's come to our door a number of
times and, I can't count the times that I've sat waiting for a city bus, and
had a JW approach me. They always give me a AWAKE magazine and I
never read them!
Anyway, I just wanted to wish you luck with getting out of the religion, if
that's what you're wanting to do, I'm sure you'll find a way.
Karen
the religion all that much. I've had the JW's come to our door a number of
times and, I can't count the times that I've sat waiting for a city bus, and
had a JW approach me. They always give me a AWAKE magazine and I
never read them!
Anyway, I just wanted to wish you luck with getting out of the religion, if
that's what you're wanting to do, I'm sure you'll find a way.
Karen
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
John Fox
()
Date: August 08, 2008 04:57PM
Rick Ross is still pretty good, though. :-P
John
John
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 09, 2008 01:39AM
net1261,
You are to be congratulated on making this first (mental) step to escape. I have friends and family who are caught up in the JWs. They would never have searched for "forbidden" information on the web (anything critical of the JWs) so my hat is off to you. I hope you have no close family members caught in the JWs that will "shun" you. Please search the Rick Ross sites as there is much about JWs here.
You are to be congratulated on making this first (mental) step to escape. I have friends and family who are caught up in the JWs. They would never have searched for "forbidden" information on the web (anything critical of the JWs) so my hat is off to you. I hope you have no close family members caught in the JWs that will "shun" you. Please search the Rick Ross sites as there is much about JWs here.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses
Posted by:
John Fox
()
Date: August 09, 2008 05:14PM
Oh, I should have remembered to add:
Jan Groenveld is someone who came out of the Jehoveh's Witnesses. You can listen to her story here.
John
Jan Groenveld is someone who came out of the Jehoveh's Witnesses. You can listen to her story here.
John
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