Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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Date: May 25, 2010 01:57AM
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ostracizedone
http://www.howcultswork.com/
A cult will have a slick well-rehearsed Public Relations front which hides what the group is really like. You will hear how they help the poor, or support research, or peace, or the environment. They will tell you how happy you will be in their group (and everyone in the cult will always seem very happy and enthusiastic, mainly because they have been told to act happy and will get in trouble if they don't). But you will not be told what life is really like in the group, nor what they really believe. These things will be introduced to you slowly, one at a time, so you will not notice the gradual change, until eventually you are practicing and believing things which at the start would have caused you to run a mile.
The cult leaders need to make you believe that there is no where else you can go and still be saved, and if you ever leave the "one true church" then you are going to hell. This is a fear based control mechanism designed to keep you in the cult. It also gives the cult leaders tremendous power over you. If you really believe that leaving the group equals leaving God (or means you are leaving your only chance to succeed in life), then you will obey the cult leaders even when you disagree with them instead of risking being kicked out of the group. Exclusivism is used as a threat, it controls your behavior through fear.
Single charismatic leader.
People always seeming constantly happy and enthusiastic. Especially if you discover that they have been told to act that way for the potential new recruits.
Instant friends.
If you are told who you can or cannot talk to or associate with.
They hide what they teach.
Say they are the only true group, or the best so why go anywhere else.
Hyped meetings, get you to meetings rather than share with you.
Experiential rather than logical.
Asking for money for the next level.
Some cults travel door to door during times when women are home alone. They, and this is rather sexist, think that women are easier to recruit and once they have the woman then it will be easier to snare the husband or partner.
Saying that they have to make people pay for it because otherwise they will not appreciate it. This is of course a very silly reason, plenty of people are able to appreciate things which they did not pay for.
Mike Villamor & Spouse,Jeff Barnes & Spouse you are transparent despite all the smoke and mirrors!!!
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Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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Date: May 25, 2010 02:04AM
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False apostles are rising up in New Zealand, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, and in other countries. They plan to subjugate (to bring under control and governance as a subject, to conquer) Churches and their leaders. From what we can tell these "Super Apostles" aim to build a fiefdom (a medieval feudal estate) of churches with themselves as the lords, second only to God himself (the King). What these self-proclaimed apostles lack in solid Biblical Doctrine they make up with cultic Mind Control techniques (also known as spiritual abuse) and hyped prosperity preaching."
The Super Apostles claim that the Biblical ministry of an apostle has been forgotten, and God has called them to restore it. Of course it is presumptuous of the Super Apostles to think that this God ordained ministry has died, but that is what they claim. The Super Apostles are in effect promoting a false apostolic ministry.
Now a biblical model of an apostle can be found in Paul, a hard working humble man who was not rich, except in his incredible passion for the gospel and correct doctrine. Paul was an apostle who knew the bounds of his authority, for example in 2 Corinthians 8:8 where he refrained from commanding the Corinthians to give money.
However these Super Apostles do not follow Paul's example. They are rigorous self-promoters who see power and wealth as important goals. They demand that you cede (to yield typically by treaty) to their authority. Church members must sign "covenants" stating that they will obey the church leadership. Church leaders themselves must "submit" their lives to the Super Apostles. To not submit is to rebel against God's will and condemn you to a barren Christian life outside the protection of the Super Apostles magical "umbrella of authority". For those who do not yield it is claimed God will leave them to fend for themselves when the enemy comes. Also rebels will suffer a life of physical poverty, not to mention terrible accidents and diseases. To reject the Super Apostles themselves is the greatest sin. Do not even suggest that they are wrong; the spiritual repercussions could be horrendous!
Authority is a key word for this clandestine movement. Everyone must be under authority. That is, under their authority. Now of course apostles did have authority in Scripture, but these new apostles claim that authority as their own, and a great deal more too. Under the catch cries of "Church Governance" and "The Church is a theocracy not a democracy" they employ standard cultic Mind Control methods. They practice "enforced giving", where tithes and offerings of church members are recorded. Members who do not give the "correct" amount are disciplined and held back from leadership. People are banned from going to other churches and working for Para church organizations not under the apostle's control. They control relationships, ordering people to stay away from friends and family outside the movement. Some even demand Christian members seek permission to marry each other. They run a reporting structure where members watch other members, and confidential information is passed up through the leadership pyramid. Some members have even had their rooms searched. People who wish to live in cities where there is no branch of the Super Apostle's church are told not to go. Time control sees endless compulsory meetings. Failing to attend a meeting is noticed and the member is spoken to Breaking sessions are employed where leaders "character assassinate" a member until they break down. Church members are given the impression that they can only be saved by being part of the Super Apostles church. Churches outside the "kingdom" are fallen and dead. Not all of these apostles state this so blatantly, but this is the impression they cultivate within their churches. However some do allude to this in the public arena, so confident they are that God is on their side.
"The term "Local Church" is an important phrase in their onslaught. They claim that no Christian work can be outside of the Local Church. Para church organizations are in error for not being controlled by a "Local Church". Of course what they really mean is that no Christian work can legitimately exist outside of the control of a Super Apostle. The idea that those Christians under the Super Apostle's control cannot work outside of a "Local Church" has already lead to an increased disunity in the Body of Christ. Carried through to its logical conclusion this exclusive doctrine will result in extreme disunity since no one will work together. Also their concept of the Local Church will lead to turf wars analogous to those seen in medieval Europe as the lords of that time fought to increase their fiefdoms at the expense of others. Already this sort of behaviour has been reported. For example recently an itinerant preacher who held a seminar in
Palmerston North was challenged by a local pastor to what he was doing ministering in their area."
How do they justify their stance? The Super Apostles look to pragmatism as their justification for practice, rather than Scripture. What works becomes standard operating procedure; hardly any consideration is given to whether it contravenes Scripture. Where a practice is questioned Scriptures are taken out of context, or twisted, to give the illusion that the Bible allows these methods.
These apostles surround themselves with "bodyguards". People who isolate them from the workings of their churches. In all probability the Super Apostles do not know the extent of damage their reign is causing, since their bodyguards shield them from the hurt that is resulting in their followers.
Finances are an important area they seek to control. Some of these Super Apostles are more open with their church finances than others. These apostles and their families (nepotism is rife) receive significant incomes from their work. They drive expensive cars, live in luxury homes; some are given cash gifts, jewellery, ocean cruises, and other expensive holidays. Some have even formed an inner circle of the very rich within their churches who in return for their significant giving receive privileges other church members do not (James 2:1-9). Apparently being good stewards of the money people give to God is not high on these apostles' priorities. No one would object to a pastor who has earned wealth through his business, with the caveat that he was not a lover of money. But no example can be found in Scripture of Jesus or the apostles gaining temporal wealth via the taking of gifts given to God. "Do not muzzle the Ox" these apostles retort, but they forget the other side of this biblical word picture, that the ox is a slave tethered to a pole. Christian leaders are slaves to the gospel, they deserve their due, but it is wrong for them to be gluttonous.
Having examined the teaching of the Super Apostles it makes us wonder about their true purpose. So often do the Super Apostles rave about financial matters we must ask if money is not their primary goal. New recruits converted on Sunday sign an automatic payment forms on Monday. Some of the Super Apostle's ranting's about "robbing God" by not giving their church your tithe, plus offerings of course, border on maniacal. Members have reported many of these over-the-top speeches are often deleted from tapes and videos of sermons, which implies someone in their leadership knows they are wrong.
They worship at the altar of Baal and Mammon is their god
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 03:30AM
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FlockRocker
Well, I never had a full blown nightmare scenario like some folks, TPCC sure left a bad taste in my mouth. I was severely burned by a church in Marysville a few years earlier, that one is a different story....
I started attending in 1998 or so at Marshall Elementary and left some time a few years later about 6-9 months after TPCC moved to the Main Campus in Marysville. At first I really liked what was going on, I liked the music and the people a lot. I was welcomed and I found it easy to support the direction and message of the church. I went for a while and asked about trying out for the band. At that time they were looking for an "edgier" sound to the music and I delivered. I played rock/metal/blues on guitar and it fit. I found the band chemistry to be a little odd as it wasn't a band, but a showcase for Cyndi and Katy, I never felt like I truly clicked with anyone but the drummer. Nonetheless, it was a lot of fun and I was a Sunday regular. It was a great time in my life, Mike was even the guy that married my wife and I! I was good friends with Mike, we'd go fishing, hang out at his house etc....
When TPCC moved to the new building in Marysville, I began to notice a subtle change. I don't know if it was me or not (the gut feeling), but I became increasingly distant from everybody, save a few families and close friends. (A little digression from the topic but filler info, I smoke.) It was found out that I smoke. I was confronted and of course I said yes, I had been smoking the whole time. Well needless to say I was asked to quit or quit. I decided it was best to take a break or sabbatical...during this time some of what I call "church politics" occurred and one of the families I was good friends with was essentially kicked out. Now, while I never knew the entire scope or story, I saw the end result and hurtful aftermath. That was enough for me. I had to leave the church. My wife was cool with that and we left.
I had my issues with Mike and Cyndi, but nothing could have prepared me for what I have read in this forum. I met Tony Cunningham once and didn't get a great "feeling" from the guy. He kind of creeped me out. I have always believed that the church politics is not what God wants, he wants believers, people of faith that's laid out in Hebrews. I don't go to church anymore. I don't like it, it's not that I'm not saved, just that I don't believe that any church is any different. I know where I'm going when I die and I don't need church.
BTW, I played at Hopefest, I also saw Michelle Tumes play. It rained. End of story.
It's sad and I feel quite angry about it from time to time but it's nice to know that my gut feeling back then was more or less correct.
A cult, IDK, but from what I've read and researched, I don't agree with a lot of the message that has recently come from that church. It's come along way from the Flock that Rocks. Ha! And I was an original member.
Oh, and if you can figure out who I am.....I still play and have become a much better guitarist than I was back then!!
Heres a thought provoking piece for ya!I believe what you state about 'any churches being any different'.Where there is a church there is a business,where there is a business there is money,where their is money there is corruption,where there is corruption there is deceit and when the pastor/false prophet/false apostle makes it a "funny" that they proclaim their desire for that which is the root of all evil (money) openly he is truly a DEADMAN to righteousness in his service to the sheep!
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Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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Date: May 25, 2010 04:13AM
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The NAR proponents claim to be foundational Apostles to the modern church. This claim is exactly what Paul warned the Church about regarding false apostles. The term "false apostles" is used only once in the Bible in 2 Cor. 11:13. False apostles are identified as those who claim they are equal with the the foundational Apostles. The NAR proponents go even further! They claim to be GREATER than the original Apostles.
Those who claim to be equal or greater than the true foundational Apostles are, by biblical definition, false apostles.
2 Cor. 11:12-15 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
This is all you need to know about the New Apostolic Reformation. Case closed!
The NAR proponents claim to be foundational Apostles to the modern church. This claim is exactly what Paul warned the Church about regarding false apostles. The term "false apostles" is used only once in the Bible in 2 Cor. 11:13. False apostles are identified as those who claim they are equal with the the foundational Apostles. The NAR proponents go even further! They claim to be GREATER than the original Apostles.
Those who claim to be equal or greater than the true foundational Apostles are, by biblical definition, false apostles.
2 Cor. 11:12-15 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
This is all you need to know about the New Apostolic Reformation. Case closed!
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 04:19AM
False Apostles and How to Recognise them:
Paul had to deal with the problem of false apostles. After Paul's departure, the Corinthian church had been infiltrated by false apostles who claimed to be better than Paul. These men claimed to be so good and so worthy, that unlike Paul, they required financial reward for their ministries. While Paul was meek and humble, these men seemed so powerful. They had the corporate CEO empire building attitude. They knew how to slap the believers into line. As Paul wrote: "For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face. To our shame I say that we were too weak for that!" (2 Corinthians 11:20,21). Here we see some of the marks of false apostles.
They bring people into bondage. True apostolic ministry liberates people to be all they can be in Christ, but false apostles bring people into bondage. True apostles want to present the church perfect, fully equipped, and fruitful in Christ. False apostles just want their ego needs to be met by the church. So they set standards which originate in their own thinking or worse yet in demonic deception, and impose these standards on believers as conditions of belonging. In Paul's day, some of the false apostles claimed to be sent by God and by the church in Jerusalem, but insisted on physical circumcision as a condition for salvation. Going on from there, they would emphasise things like special days to be observed, new moons, feasts, food laws and other such things. Adding law to law, they could get believers to a point where they felt so guilty, so unworthy and therefore so much more in need of the "great men" who could tell them what they had come to believe was the "narrow way" that leads to life. Rules were added, "do not touch, do not taste, do not handle". In reality, it got down to so much ritual, and not a real dealing with the fleshly carnal nature, which is what is at work opposing the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
True apostles emphasise first and foremost obedience to the Holy Spirit, but false apostles tend to lay a lot of emphasis on people submitting to and obeying THEM. Now it is right to obey and respect church leaders set by God in authority, but church leaders must lead in the fear of God, and avoid a controlling spirit. False apostles may claim many revelations but these revelations do not set people free to rejoice in the Lord, but rather produce fear and bondage. "Revelations" such as "you must not eat pork" or "you must meet on the Sabbath" or the thousands of strange and bizarre unbiblical rules that some have accepted in the name of religion do not produce freedom, but rather, fear and bondage.
The word of false apostles becomes law to the poor believers who are enslaved by them. Such false apostles will introduce legalistic requirements outside of the Scriptures, and demand adherence. If not, well, its "my way or the highway!". They tend to exclude people who do not bow and scrape to them, so that these people may be powerfully pressured to come into line, so that they can enjoy the acceptance of their friends in the church. In extreme cases, false apostles will claim that they and their group alone are the true heirs of the biblical covenants, so that all those who do not submit to their judgments are ipso facto "outside of Christ", "lost". Both Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses (so-called) are examples of this kind of dangerous nonsense.
They exalt themselves. Anyone who attempts to step into the office of an apostle through self-will, ambitious striving or clever politicking is in line to become a false apostle. Such a person "transforms himself into a minister of righteousness". "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ".
A person may be a Christian, and very talented and impressive outwardly, but if they yield to the sin of pride and start to position themselves in order to draw disciples after themselves, they become false. Sometimes it seems we have a mixture of the true and the false in the same person. It is best to stay within the calling or office that really came from the Lord, and not strive for great titles or recognition. William Branham, a great prophetic ministry of the '50s and '60s, became a false teacher because he insisted on getting outside of his area of calling and function as a Teacher. He just wanted to be a teacher, even though his doctrine was really off the wall. He would not listen to associates and ministers who knew it was wrong. We become false when we seek to appoint ourselves to roles that neither Jesus nor the Spirit of Truth have assigned us.
Paul had to deal with the problem of false apostles. After Paul's departure, the Corinthian church had been infiltrated by false apostles who claimed to be better than Paul. These men claimed to be so good and so worthy, that unlike Paul, they required financial reward for their ministries. While Paul was meek and humble, these men seemed so powerful. They had the corporate CEO empire building attitude. They knew how to slap the believers into line. As Paul wrote: "For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face. To our shame I say that we were too weak for that!" (2 Corinthians 11:20,21). Here we see some of the marks of false apostles.
They bring people into bondage. True apostolic ministry liberates people to be all they can be in Christ, but false apostles bring people into bondage. True apostles want to present the church perfect, fully equipped, and fruitful in Christ. False apostles just want their ego needs to be met by the church. So they set standards which originate in their own thinking or worse yet in demonic deception, and impose these standards on believers as conditions of belonging. In Paul's day, some of the false apostles claimed to be sent by God and by the church in Jerusalem, but insisted on physical circumcision as a condition for salvation. Going on from there, they would emphasise things like special days to be observed, new moons, feasts, food laws and other such things. Adding law to law, they could get believers to a point where they felt so guilty, so unworthy and therefore so much more in need of the "great men" who could tell them what they had come to believe was the "narrow way" that leads to life. Rules were added, "do not touch, do not taste, do not handle". In reality, it got down to so much ritual, and not a real dealing with the fleshly carnal nature, which is what is at work opposing the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
True apostles emphasise first and foremost obedience to the Holy Spirit, but false apostles tend to lay a lot of emphasis on people submitting to and obeying THEM. Now it is right to obey and respect church leaders set by God in authority, but church leaders must lead in the fear of God, and avoid a controlling spirit. False apostles may claim many revelations but these revelations do not set people free to rejoice in the Lord, but rather produce fear and bondage. "Revelations" such as "you must not eat pork" or "you must meet on the Sabbath" or the thousands of strange and bizarre unbiblical rules that some have accepted in the name of religion do not produce freedom, but rather, fear and bondage.
The word of false apostles becomes law to the poor believers who are enslaved by them. Such false apostles will introduce legalistic requirements outside of the Scriptures, and demand adherence. If not, well, its "my way or the highway!". They tend to exclude people who do not bow and scrape to them, so that these people may be powerfully pressured to come into line, so that they can enjoy the acceptance of their friends in the church. In extreme cases, false apostles will claim that they and their group alone are the true heirs of the biblical covenants, so that all those who do not submit to their judgments are ipso facto "outside of Christ", "lost". Both Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses (so-called) are examples of this kind of dangerous nonsense.
They exalt themselves. Anyone who attempts to step into the office of an apostle through self-will, ambitious striving or clever politicking is in line to become a false apostle. Such a person "transforms himself into a minister of righteousness". "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ".
A person may be a Christian, and very talented and impressive outwardly, but if they yield to the sin of pride and start to position themselves in order to draw disciples after themselves, they become false. Sometimes it seems we have a mixture of the true and the false in the same person. It is best to stay within the calling or office that really came from the Lord, and not strive for great titles or recognition. William Branham, a great prophetic ministry of the '50s and '60s, became a false teacher because he insisted on getting outside of his area of calling and function as a Teacher. He just wanted to be a teacher, even though his doctrine was really off the wall. He would not listen to associates and ministers who knew it was wrong. We become false when we seek to appoint ourselves to roles that neither Jesus nor the Spirit of Truth have assigned us.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 04:26AM
Markers of a false prophet, apostle and teachers based on II Cor. 11, Jn. 5:43-44, and Acts 20:29-30:
· They are called “deceitful workers” (II Cor 11:13)
· They turn people into their own personal servants or enslave them to working for their vision. The people who follow them live a life of bondage to rules and regulations. "a man bring you into bondage" (II Cor 11:20)
· They will manipulates you out of money and use you as their own human resource.” if he makes profit out of you" (II Cor 11:20)
· False apostles will lead you to feel you will be judged by God if you leave their church, they will use fear tactics to make you their mental prisoner. “if he makes you prisoners" (II Cor 11:20)
· A false apostle will seek to elevate his own status, rank and reputation. He will make sure it is known that he is in a position over you. He may tell you he is in a special position as Gods anointed and appointed spokesman. “if he puts himself in a high place" (II Cor 11:20)
· A false apostle will insult you, shame you and lay guilt trips on you. "if he gives you blows on the face" (II Cor 11:20)
· They come in there own name and shift loyalty to them and their vision. How many times have you heard “what would Wayman do?” (Jn. 5:43-44)
· They will try to make Gods sheep their own, they attempt to draw disciples after themselves. (Acts 20:29-30)
I urge you to be especially aware of those who attempt to make a church their own. Statements like “that’s John’s church” or “this is my church” should be a red flag. The church belongs to Jesus, who bought it with his own blood, and any church leadership he delegates is supposed to be servant leadership, not ownership. Watch out for those who put much emphasis on getting you to serve the vision of there leader or imply that if you follow a list of rules (that they make up), it will please God. Often they will use the scripture out of context to justify a life of spiritual bondage, for instance, they may say “the love of Christ constrains us” (II Cor 5:14), when in reality, the apostles were quite clear that very little burden of rules was to be placed on the gentile believers (Acts 15:19-20).
A true shepherd of God will be concerned with your growing into the headship of Christ, not his personal headship over your life; and a Godly pastor will urge you to listen for God's voice and God's direction for your life, over his own.
· They are called “deceitful workers” (II Cor 11:13)
· They turn people into their own personal servants or enslave them to working for their vision. The people who follow them live a life of bondage to rules and regulations. "a man bring you into bondage" (II Cor 11:20)
· They will manipulates you out of money and use you as their own human resource.” if he makes profit out of you" (II Cor 11:20)
· False apostles will lead you to feel you will be judged by God if you leave their church, they will use fear tactics to make you their mental prisoner. “if he makes you prisoners" (II Cor 11:20)
· A false apostle will seek to elevate his own status, rank and reputation. He will make sure it is known that he is in a position over you. He may tell you he is in a special position as Gods anointed and appointed spokesman. “if he puts himself in a high place" (II Cor 11:20)
· A false apostle will insult you, shame you and lay guilt trips on you. "if he gives you blows on the face" (II Cor 11:20)
· They come in there own name and shift loyalty to them and their vision. How many times have you heard “what would Wayman do?” (Jn. 5:43-44)
· They will try to make Gods sheep their own, they attempt to draw disciples after themselves. (Acts 20:29-30)
I urge you to be especially aware of those who attempt to make a church their own. Statements like “that’s John’s church” or “this is my church” should be a red flag. The church belongs to Jesus, who bought it with his own blood, and any church leadership he delegates is supposed to be servant leadership, not ownership. Watch out for those who put much emphasis on getting you to serve the vision of there leader or imply that if you follow a list of rules (that they make up), it will please God. Often they will use the scripture out of context to justify a life of spiritual bondage, for instance, they may say “the love of Christ constrains us” (II Cor 5:14), when in reality, the apostles were quite clear that very little burden of rules was to be placed on the gentile believers (Acts 15:19-20).
A true shepherd of God will be concerned with your growing into the headship of Christ, not his personal headship over your life; and a Godly pastor will urge you to listen for God's voice and God's direction for your life, over his own.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 05:08AM
The Dangers Of John Beveres "Under Cover" - [www.deceptioninthechurch.com]
It is true that Christians need to speak the truth in love among brothers in the Faith (Eph. 4:15). Conversely, and not taught by John Bevere, Christians are also to mark, avoid and reject the divisive ones, heretics (Rom. 16:17, Tit. 3:10). Apparently John Bevere wants to major on discernment among those who call themselves believers to the exclusion of rejecting heresy from the wolves in sheep's clothing. But John Bevere teaches a false teaching that is that it is wrong for Christians to be "critical". The Greek word from which we get the English word "critical" is kritikos. Strongs says it means discerner, relating to judging, fit for judging, skilled in judging. The Bible clearly teaches that Christians are to learn to discern.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test (dokimazo) the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Not only is John Bevere teaching Christians not to be discerning by calling people who use discernment "critical", he is actually programming them to be like non-believers in the world which highly esteems the virtues of "tolerance". But, most importantly, with heretics like John Bevere the underlying purpose for the continual harping on the subject of "don't judge" is to brainwash people into submission to their false teachings and false "move of the Spirit".
Mature Christians do not defend false teachers and heretics. They are to mark and avoid false teachers (Rom. 16:17). They are to reject heretics (Titus 1: 13), those who lay error alongside truth by secretly introducing destructive heresies (2 Pet. 2:1). Christians are to be light and salt by telling the truth, thus we are to point out who heretics are by name so that people will not listen to them just as the prophets and Apostles did (Lev. 10:1-2; Num. 16; 1 Kings 22:11, 24-25; Jer. 28:15-17, 29:31-32; Eze. 8:8-11, 11:1-13; Matt. 23; 1 Tim. 1:19-20; 2 Tim. 4:14; Gal. 2:11-13; 3 John 9-10; Rev. 2:20, etc.). Christians are told by the Holy Spirit in the Bible, through John, that if we love the Lord we will demonstrate that by obeying His commands (1 John 3:24; 5:3; John 15:10, etc.). One of the often repeated commands of the Lord is to get away from false teachers and false prophets (1Co 5:11-13; 1 John 4:1, Rev. 18:4; Rom. 16:17; Titus 1: 13; Eph. 5:11; 2 Thes. 3:6; 2 Tim. 3:5,7; 2 John 10, 11; Titus 3:10; 2 Cor. 6:17, etc.). Read the following articles on how to be a Berean (Acts 17:11) to learn why we must stand for the Truth against blasphemy and heresy today. Please have your Bible handy to look up all the references given.
John Bevere talks about waves of God's presence would come in, “children couldn't cry, scream, or shake any longer, another wave of God's presence would come and raise the intensity to another level. At times I could only drop my head on the podium because of the heaviness of God's presence. “I watched one young girl, no more than seven years old, wring her hands profusely as though they were on fire. Her uplifted face was bathed in tears as she cried out. You could sense God on these children so strongly that the ushers did not touch them after initially helping them. They just stood, watched, and cried” (p.6 A Heart Ablaze, John Bevere)
I stood watching these same kinds of manifestations in Brownsville meetings and I cried also. Not because it was the Holy Spirit but because little children were being brainwashed and some even demonized by false prophets and heretics by the laying on of hands. The Brownsville adherants were pointing towards people laying on the ground writhing, screaming, kicking, laughing uncontrollably, making animal noises, and even vomiting and saying "The Holy Spirit is all over that person". But my Bible is clear about these manifestations as well as those Bevere describes as having experienced himself ... these are not the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth and of self-control, but people exhibiting a lack of the fruit of the Spirit of self-control and also of clear demonization. Because people like Bevere, former associate pastor at Benny Hinn's church in Orlando, FL, have allowed the devil free reign in their churches because of their disobedience in allowing and promoting false prophecy and occult practices, they are now driven by another spirit, the spirit of the power of the air, the "Zeitgeist". The continued "fruit" of that spirit is lies, deceit, false prophecies, continued dabbling in occult practices like slain in the spirit, and teaching things they ought not to teach. Bevere is a heretic and we need to pray for his deliverance because he has clearly had demonic episodes as has his mentor, false prophet Benny Hinn.
It is true that Christians need to speak the truth in love among brothers in the Faith (Eph. 4:15). Conversely, and not taught by John Bevere, Christians are also to mark, avoid and reject the divisive ones, heretics (Rom. 16:17, Tit. 3:10). Apparently John Bevere wants to major on discernment among those who call themselves believers to the exclusion of rejecting heresy from the wolves in sheep's clothing. But John Bevere teaches a false teaching that is that it is wrong for Christians to be "critical". The Greek word from which we get the English word "critical" is kritikos. Strongs says it means discerner, relating to judging, fit for judging, skilled in judging. The Bible clearly teaches that Christians are to learn to discern.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test (dokimazo) the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Not only is John Bevere teaching Christians not to be discerning by calling people who use discernment "critical", he is actually programming them to be like non-believers in the world which highly esteems the virtues of "tolerance". But, most importantly, with heretics like John Bevere the underlying purpose for the continual harping on the subject of "don't judge" is to brainwash people into submission to their false teachings and false "move of the Spirit".
Mature Christians do not defend false teachers and heretics. They are to mark and avoid false teachers (Rom. 16:17). They are to reject heretics (Titus 1: 13), those who lay error alongside truth by secretly introducing destructive heresies (2 Pet. 2:1). Christians are to be light and salt by telling the truth, thus we are to point out who heretics are by name so that people will not listen to them just as the prophets and Apostles did (Lev. 10:1-2; Num. 16; 1 Kings 22:11, 24-25; Jer. 28:15-17, 29:31-32; Eze. 8:8-11, 11:1-13; Matt. 23; 1 Tim. 1:19-20; 2 Tim. 4:14; Gal. 2:11-13; 3 John 9-10; Rev. 2:20, etc.). Christians are told by the Holy Spirit in the Bible, through John, that if we love the Lord we will demonstrate that by obeying His commands (1 John 3:24; 5:3; John 15:10, etc.). One of the often repeated commands of the Lord is to get away from false teachers and false prophets (1Co 5:11-13; 1 John 4:1, Rev. 18:4; Rom. 16:17; Titus 1: 13; Eph. 5:11; 2 Thes. 3:6; 2 Tim. 3:5,7; 2 John 10, 11; Titus 3:10; 2 Cor. 6:17, etc.). Read the following articles on how to be a Berean (Acts 17:11) to learn why we must stand for the Truth against blasphemy and heresy today. Please have your Bible handy to look up all the references given.
John Bevere talks about waves of God's presence would come in, “children couldn't cry, scream, or shake any longer, another wave of God's presence would come and raise the intensity to another level. At times I could only drop my head on the podium because of the heaviness of God's presence. “I watched one young girl, no more than seven years old, wring her hands profusely as though they were on fire. Her uplifted face was bathed in tears as she cried out. You could sense God on these children so strongly that the ushers did not touch them after initially helping them. They just stood, watched, and cried” (p.6 A Heart Ablaze, John Bevere)
I stood watching these same kinds of manifestations in Brownsville meetings and I cried also. Not because it was the Holy Spirit but because little children were being brainwashed and some even demonized by false prophets and heretics by the laying on of hands. The Brownsville adherants were pointing towards people laying on the ground writhing, screaming, kicking, laughing uncontrollably, making animal noises, and even vomiting and saying "The Holy Spirit is all over that person". But my Bible is clear about these manifestations as well as those Bevere describes as having experienced himself ... these are not the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth and of self-control, but people exhibiting a lack of the fruit of the Spirit of self-control and also of clear demonization. Because people like Bevere, former associate pastor at Benny Hinn's church in Orlando, FL, have allowed the devil free reign in their churches because of their disobedience in allowing and promoting false prophecy and occult practices, they are now driven by another spirit, the spirit of the power of the air, the "Zeitgeist". The continued "fruit" of that spirit is lies, deceit, false prophecies, continued dabbling in occult practices like slain in the spirit, and teaching things they ought not to teach. Bevere is a heretic and we need to pray for his deliverance because he has clearly had demonic episodes as has his mentor, false prophet Benny Hinn.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 08:17AM
The Book Of Acts...One Of TP's Favorites
1. The first account I composed, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach, 2. until the day when He was taken up to heaven, after He had by the Holy Spirit given orders to the apostles whom He had chosen. 3. To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.
AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PRESENT TO WITNESS WHAT JESUS DID AND HOW HE TAUGHT! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PRESENT AT JESUS' RESERRECTION AND ASCENDING TO HEAVEN! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PERSONALLY CHOSEN BY JESUS ! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO SEEN JESUS ALIVE AFTER HIS SUFFERING !
21 . “Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us—
AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE ACCESIBILE TO JESUS ALL THE TIME FOR HIM TO TRAIN THEM !
32 . “This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. 33 . “Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.
AN APOSTLE ONCE AGAIN WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEAR WITNESS TO JESUS' RISING UP AGAIN ! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BEEN EXALTED TO THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD , HAVING LEARNED FROM GOD BY SEEING AND HEARING THE TRUE GOSPEL . THE CONDUCT OF A TRUE APOSTLE WOULD BE PURE , TRUTHFUL IN A MANNER IN WHICH HE WAS ABOVE ALL REPROACH AS A RIGHTEOUS TEACHER OF THE WORD AS SPOKEN TO HIM BY GOD,
33 . With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all.
ONCE AGAIN YOU HAD TO BE THERE AND WITNESS THE RESERRECTION TO TESTIFY TO IT !
34 . There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
I SAW A NEEDY MAN WEARING DIRTY CLOTHES AT AN TPWOC SERVICE ONCE . HE WAS PROMPTLY REMOVED BY SECURITY . SO I GUESS THAT IS HOW A FALSE APOSTLE ADHERES TO THAT LAW !
35 . and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
AHHHH THE MEAT AND POTATOS OF WHY IT IS GOOD TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK YOU ARE AN APOSTLE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I WONDER WHAT THE % IS OF MONEY POCKETED BY THE WOLVES VERSUS SPENT ON DISTRIBUTING TO THE SHEEP (ANYONE IN NEED)
36 . Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement), 37 . sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.
MORE EVIDENCE OF 'BEING AN APOSTLE HAS IT"S ADVANTAGES
1 . Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 . With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet. 3 . Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 . Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.” 5 . When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 . Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him. 7 . About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?” “Yes,” she said, “that is the price.” 9 . Peter said to her, “How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” 10 . At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 . Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY IT IS GOOD TO PLANT THE IDEA OF " I AM AN APOSTLE "TO THE SHEEP' . KEEP BACK MONEY FROM THE APOSTLES INSTEAD OF THROWING IT AT THEIR FEET AND YOU WILL BE PUT TO DEATH ! THE FALSE APOSTLES HAVE RESERRECTED THE APOSTOLIC MOVEMENT WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO GET THE FIRST WAVE OF GOD'S CHURCHES STARTED AND TURNED IT INTO A MODERN-DAY MONEY MAKING SCHEME ! THE ROLE OF THE APOSTLE CHOSEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ENDED WHEN THE LAST APOSTLE CHOSEN BY JESUS DIED !
29 . Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than men! 30 . The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead—whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree. 31 . God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. 32 . We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”
THE FALSE APOSTLE WILL OBEY MEN AND THEIR DESIRES FOR WORLDLY THINGS WHICH ARE ULTIMATELY HIS TRUE DESIRE AS WELL ! TICKLE THEIR EARS AND TURN THEM LOOSE IN THEIR FOLLY FOR MORE AND MORE MONEY , SEXUAL IMMORALITY , LIVING THE GOOD LIFE OF SIN WHILE BEING COMFORTED BY THEIR WORDS OF 'IT"S OK IT"S WHAT I DO AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED SINCE BACK WHEN THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN !
THE FALSE PROPHET WITNESSED NONE OF THE MIRACLES OF JESUS AND DON'T TEACH "ONLY THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN , THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN "
1. The first account I composed, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach, 2. until the day when He was taken up to heaven, after He had by the Holy Spirit given orders to the apostles whom He had chosen. 3. To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.
AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PRESENT TO WITNESS WHAT JESUS DID AND HOW HE TAUGHT! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PRESENT AT JESUS' RESERRECTION AND ASCENDING TO HEAVEN! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE PERSONALLY CHOSEN BY JESUS ! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO SEEN JESUS ALIVE AFTER HIS SUFFERING !
21 . “Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us—
AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE ACCESIBILE TO JESUS ALL THE TIME FOR HIM TO TRAIN THEM !
32 . “This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. 33 . “Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.
AN APOSTLE ONCE AGAIN WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEAR WITNESS TO JESUS' RISING UP AGAIN ! AN APOSTLE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BEEN EXALTED TO THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD , HAVING LEARNED FROM GOD BY SEEING AND HEARING THE TRUE GOSPEL . THE CONDUCT OF A TRUE APOSTLE WOULD BE PURE , TRUTHFUL IN A MANNER IN WHICH HE WAS ABOVE ALL REPROACH AS A RIGHTEOUS TEACHER OF THE WORD AS SPOKEN TO HIM BY GOD,
33 . With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all.
ONCE AGAIN YOU HAD TO BE THERE AND WITNESS THE RESERRECTION TO TESTIFY TO IT !
34 . There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
I SAW A NEEDY MAN WEARING DIRTY CLOTHES AT AN TPWOC SERVICE ONCE . HE WAS PROMPTLY REMOVED BY SECURITY . SO I GUESS THAT IS HOW A FALSE APOSTLE ADHERES TO THAT LAW !
35 . and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
AHHHH THE MEAT AND POTATOS OF WHY IT IS GOOD TO GET PEOPLE TO THINK YOU ARE AN APOSTLE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I WONDER WHAT THE % IS OF MONEY POCKETED BY THE WOLVES VERSUS SPENT ON DISTRIBUTING TO THE SHEEP (ANYONE IN NEED)
36 . Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement), 37 . sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.
MORE EVIDENCE OF 'BEING AN APOSTLE HAS IT"S ADVANTAGES
1 . Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 . With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet. 3 . Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 . Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.” 5 . When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 . Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him. 7 . About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?” “Yes,” she said, “that is the price.” 9 . Peter said to her, “How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” 10 . At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 . Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY IT IS GOOD TO PLANT THE IDEA OF " I AM AN APOSTLE "TO THE SHEEP' . KEEP BACK MONEY FROM THE APOSTLES INSTEAD OF THROWING IT AT THEIR FEET AND YOU WILL BE PUT TO DEATH ! THE FALSE APOSTLES HAVE RESERRECTED THE APOSTOLIC MOVEMENT WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO GET THE FIRST WAVE OF GOD'S CHURCHES STARTED AND TURNED IT INTO A MODERN-DAY MONEY MAKING SCHEME ! THE ROLE OF THE APOSTLE CHOSEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ENDED WHEN THE LAST APOSTLE CHOSEN BY JESUS DIED !
29 . Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than men! 30 . The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead—whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree. 31 . God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel. 32 . We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”
THE FALSE APOSTLE WILL OBEY MEN AND THEIR DESIRES FOR WORLDLY THINGS WHICH ARE ULTIMATELY HIS TRUE DESIRE AS WELL ! TICKLE THEIR EARS AND TURN THEM LOOSE IN THEIR FOLLY FOR MORE AND MORE MONEY , SEXUAL IMMORALITY , LIVING THE GOOD LIFE OF SIN WHILE BEING COMFORTED BY THEIR WORDS OF 'IT"S OK IT"S WHAT I DO AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED SINCE BACK WHEN THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN !
THE FALSE PROPHET WITNESSED NONE OF THE MIRACLES OF JESUS AND DON'T TEACH "ONLY THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN , THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN "
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
ostracizedone
()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:59AM
18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart.
FOR THE TRUE APOSTLES KNEW THAT YOU COULD NOT "BUY THE GIFT OF GOD WITH MONEY " WHICH DIRECTLY OPPOSES THIS NEW-AGE HEALTH AND WEALTH ,PROSPERITY ,PLANT THE SEED IN THE HAND OF YOUR LOCAL FALSE APOSTLE TRASH !
26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.” 27 Talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. 28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean.
PETER WAS HUMBLE , SOUGHT NO SPECIAL HONOR CLAIMING 'I AM ONLY A MAN MYSELF' DIRECT OPPOSITE OF THE SPECIAL HONORS , TITLES , TITHES , GIFTS, SUBMISSION AND LABORS THAT TODAYS FALSE APOSTLES DEMAND OF THE SHEEP ! THE NUMBER ONE WEAPON USED AGAINST PEOPLE WHO QUESTION HE WHO HAS PUT HIMSELF IN THE POSITION OF SPECIAL HONOR , ADULATION AND REVERENCE IS BY PROCLAIMING THE CHALLENGER IMPURE OR UNCLEAN , OR WORSE YET HAVE WALKED WITHOUT THE LORD FOR A LONG TIME ! A BASIC POLITICAL MOVE ALONG WITH A LITTLE SLANDER ,GOSSIP, LYING AND DECEIVING OUGHT TO DO THE TRICK ! IS THAT WHAT THE FALSE APOSTLE THINKS " JESUS WOULD DO " ?
6 They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus, 7 who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for that is what his name means) opposed them and tried to turn the proconsul from the faith. 9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 “You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
LISTEN TO A FALSE PROPHETS SERMON OR VIDEOS OR BIBLE SCHOOL TEACHINGS AND HE WILL (GOD-WILLING) OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS WITH HIS DEPARTURES FROM WHAT IS WRITTEN WITH HIS OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS WHEN COMPARED TO THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE WILL OF GOD!
Go to this people and say,
“You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.”
27For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.
30 For two whole years Paul stayed there in his own rented house and welcomed all who came to see him. 31 Boldly and without hindrance he preached the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE ANY FALSE APOSTLES THAT RENT ANYTHING OR WELCOME ALL WHO COME TO SEE THEM , SOME HAVE EVEN GONE SO FAR AS TO CONVERSE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY,LIMITING THEIR ACCESS TO THE SHEEP,PROCLAIMING TO BE FAR TOO BUSY FOR DAILY ACTIVITIES OF THE CHURCH AND SOME EVEN PURCHASE MENACING GUARD STYLE DOGS . THE FALSE APOSTLE BOLDLY PREACHES HIS PERSONAL AGENDA WITHOUT HINDRANCE BECAUSE IT IS HIS SHOW, HIS CHURCH,HIS VOICE,HIS WILL !
FOR THE TRUE APOSTLES KNEW THAT YOU COULD NOT "BUY THE GIFT OF GOD WITH MONEY " WHICH DIRECTLY OPPOSES THIS NEW-AGE HEALTH AND WEALTH ,PROSPERITY ,PLANT THE SEED IN THE HAND OF YOUR LOCAL FALSE APOSTLE TRASH !
26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.” 27 Talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. 28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean.
PETER WAS HUMBLE , SOUGHT NO SPECIAL HONOR CLAIMING 'I AM ONLY A MAN MYSELF' DIRECT OPPOSITE OF THE SPECIAL HONORS , TITLES , TITHES , GIFTS, SUBMISSION AND LABORS THAT TODAYS FALSE APOSTLES DEMAND OF THE SHEEP ! THE NUMBER ONE WEAPON USED AGAINST PEOPLE WHO QUESTION HE WHO HAS PUT HIMSELF IN THE POSITION OF SPECIAL HONOR , ADULATION AND REVERENCE IS BY PROCLAIMING THE CHALLENGER IMPURE OR UNCLEAN , OR WORSE YET HAVE WALKED WITHOUT THE LORD FOR A LONG TIME ! A BASIC POLITICAL MOVE ALONG WITH A LITTLE SLANDER ,GOSSIP, LYING AND DECEIVING OUGHT TO DO THE TRICK ! IS THAT WHAT THE FALSE APOSTLE THINKS " JESUS WOULD DO " ?
6 They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus, 7 who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God. 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for that is what his name means) opposed them and tried to turn the proconsul from the faith. 9 Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10 “You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?
LISTEN TO A FALSE PROPHETS SERMON OR VIDEOS OR BIBLE SCHOOL TEACHINGS AND HE WILL (GOD-WILLING) OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS WITH HIS DEPARTURES FROM WHAT IS WRITTEN WITH HIS OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS WHEN COMPARED TO THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE WILL OF GOD!
Go to this people and say,
“You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.”
27For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.
30 For two whole years Paul stayed there in his own rented house and welcomed all who came to see him. 31 Boldly and without hindrance he preached the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WILL SEE ANY FALSE APOSTLES THAT RENT ANYTHING OR WELCOME ALL WHO COME TO SEE THEM , SOME HAVE EVEN GONE SO FAR AS TO CONVERSE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY,LIMITING THEIR ACCESS TO THE SHEEP,PROCLAIMING TO BE FAR TOO BUSY FOR DAILY ACTIVITIES OF THE CHURCH AND SOME EVEN PURCHASE MENACING GUARD STYLE DOGS . THE FALSE APOSTLE BOLDLY PREACHES HIS PERSONAL AGENDA WITHOUT HINDRANCE BECAUSE IT IS HIS SHOW, HIS CHURCH,HIS VOICE,HIS WILL !
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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ostracizedone
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Date: May 25, 2010 09:40AM
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